vg|Exhibition,Segm_1_6,I,1,16,Hungar Olimpics,0,Hun Junior,0| rs|4SS+1,4SS+1,4CS=,2HE+1,3NN-1,3NN-2,1NN-1,1NN=,3NE+1,2HNx-2,4SN=,3NS-1,3DE=,3SW-3,3NN+2,3NN+1,3HW-2,1NNx=,2HW=,1SEx-1,6HS=,,3NS+1,,4SW-2,,4HN-1,,4HN-2,,2SE+1,| pn|Szilágyi,Szabó,Honti,Riesz,Szegedi B,Dumbovich,Mraz Mate,Winkler G|pg|| qx|o1|st||md|3SQT63HKQ8DK72CK54,S9852H973D986C932,SAKJ7HAJT5DQ4CQ87,S4H642DAJT53CAJT6|sv|o|nt|gal: This is a clash beetween the two most succesful team of Hungary after WW2. The junior team finished third in the European Championship and the Open team got to the quarterfinals at ...|pg|| nt|gal: the Olympiad narrowly missing the semifinals |pg|| nt|jtr: The more senior (age wise) of the two teams did extremely well at the Olympics in Istanbul recently when the reached the quarter-finals of the Open series, knocked out by Russia in ...|pg|| nt|jtr: a very close match|pg|| nt|jtr: The juniors won the bronze medal at the European Championships in Prague earlier this year, also a very good achievement|pg|| mb|1C|an|prec|mb|1H|nt|josj: A very good hand for West to start the match|pg|| nt|josj: many would call it their average hand at rubber bridge|pg|| mb|1N|mb|p|nt|gal: All the juniors are playing an aggressive natural system with weak notrumps and five card majors.|pg|| mb|2C|mb|p|mb|3S|an|11 13 4333|mb|p|nt|gal: 2C is asking for distribution|pg|| nt|jtr: Maybe you could introduce the players Gal|pg|| nt|gal: 3S: 4333, 11/13|pg|| mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|jtr: 1@h must show minors or something else i imagine|pg|| pc|d9|nt|gal: its either spades or both minors|pg|| nt|jtr: @ss or minors in fact|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d3|pc|dK|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s2|pc|sA|pc|s4|pg|| pc|sK|nt|szalay: rehi all:-)|pg|| pc|d5|pc|s6|pc|s5|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|dA|pc|d7|pc|d6|pg|| nt|jtr: Gyorgy has been for a cigarette i imagine|pg|| nt|szalay: u won:-)|pg|| nt|jtr: any fines?|pg|| nt|szalay: by my cats or dog?|pg|| nt|jtr: Gyorgy Szalay is a member of the senior team but helping out by commentating whilst he sits out|pg|| nt|szalay: i was told it is my better role:-)|pg|| nt|jtr: maybe helping out the juniors too Who knows:-)|pg|| pc|h6|pc|hK|pc|h7|pc|h5|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d8|pc|s7|pc|dT|pg|| pc|cQ|nt|jtr: @c now|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|c1|st||md|3SQT63HKQ8DK72CK54,S9852H973D986C932,SAKJ7HAJT5DQ4CQ87,S4H642DAJT53CAJT6|sv|o|nt|gcohler: good morning|pg|| nt|cherilou: Hello and welcome to all|pg|| nt|yeshoney: hi all|pg|| nt|jbgood: hi all|pg|| nt|yeshoney: for this, 18th round, we will have the 2 leading teams in group B facing each other|pg|| nt|jbgood: a great show in front of us - two of the really super powers of ladies bridge - duly 1st and 2nd in the standings|pg|| nt|cherilou: These matchs are 16 boards|pg|| nt|cherilou: Once we know the 2 pairs the CC can be downloaded at www.bridgebase.com/istanbul|pg|| nt|gcohler: we know both teams will advance but doesnt the outcome of this match effect things down the line?|pg|| nt|ritong: hello all :)) your commentators will be migry zur campanile from israel, tom sanders and richie reisig from USA.|pg|| nt|migry: Hi all from sunny Tel Aviv:) Welcome back:)|pg|| nt|tsanders: Back again folks. Bringing you the best in bridge from Istanbul. Welcome|pg|| nt|reisig: Good morning:)|pg|| nt|tsanders: I see we will be seeing Fantoni/Nunes. They were sensational yesterday v USA|pg|| nt|migry: they were the most solid italian pair in that match|pg|| nt|reisig: This match was VERY close ...now just close|pg|| nt|tsanders: Richie, did Italy win some imps during the break?|pg|| nt|reisig: Looks that way|pg|| nt|tsanders: possible that the operator had the score wrong before break|pg|| nt|reisig: I hear there was an appeal - won by Italy (12 IMPs)|pg|| nt|migry: it was an appeal i think|pg|| nt|tsanders: please be patient now, Closed Room has to wait for comparisons|pg|| nt|migry: some misinformation on the 6@s hand in the first quarter|pg|| nt|tsanders: your commentators today will be Migry Zur Campanite, Richie Reisig and I am Tom Sanders|pg|| nt|Zmud99: ok here we go...|pg|| nt|inquiry: Thes are the names for italy versus pakistan... but I guess they will be corrected shorly|pg|| nt|lrargerich: Hi all, welcome!|pg|| nt|inquiry: convention cards for the players are available at ecats.... I will see if the hyperlink will work, it maybe too long....|pg|| nt|inquiry: http://www.ecatsbridge.com/documents/docdefault.asp?page=Hungary&start=d%3A%5Cinetpub%5Cwwwroot%5Cecatsbridge%5Cdocuments%5Cfiles%5CConvention+Cards%5C2004+World...|pg|| nt|inquiry: +Teams+Olympiad+Istanbul%5COpen+Teams+PDF+files|pg|| nt|inquiry: yup too long, |pg|| nt|Zmud99: Hi all...Play start in 10 mns...|pg|| nt|roghog: hi folks. welcome to Istanbul|pg|| nt|ritong: hello all & welcome :) your commentators will be luis irargerich from argentina, ben dickens from USA & rogerbryant from great - britain|pg|| nt|inquiry: http://www.bridgebase.com/istanbul|pg|| nt|ritong: have fun, folks thanks for being there:)|pg|| nt|inquiry: click that one, then open pairs, then hungary and/or Russia to find PDF formated convention cards|pg|| nt|ritong: we also have jo-ann sprung from USA hello JA|pg|| nt|inquiry: Kkokhlov and rekunov play a three way (forcing) 1@C opening bid, similar to polish club... while szalay and macskasy play precision 1@C|pg|| nt|granguru: .|pg|| nt|granguru: hi|pg|| nt|roghog: hi el gran maestro de Chile|pg|| nt|granguru: excellent spanish rog|pg|| nt|roghog: you're too kind :-)|pg|| nt|roghog: one British player here. West is from a Scots family|pg|| nt|granguru: nice to be with you again ((( friends )))|pg|| nt|roghog: sorry, that was a joke. Scots names often begin "mac"!|pg|| nt|roghog: I saw Yuri (south) and Vladimir in an earlier match. a very sound pair|pg|| nt|inquiry: So we wil lhave a strong club auction right off the bat... it will be interesting to see if khokhoov will probalby respond 2@D, which shows 10+ and is game force.... |pg|| nt|granguru: we have a world champion kibitzing at our table: Our friend Carlos Camacho, of Brasil|pg|| nt|roghog: I'm told Macska means cat in Hungarian|pg|| nt|granguru: hi Carlos|pg|| nt|roghog: can the Magyars come back in this one??|pg|| nt|granguru: we hope|pg|| nt|Zmud99: 5 mns to start :)|pg|| nt|granguru: Anyway, we are seeing high level play, which is very stimulating |pg|| nt|inquiry: with @H hook on and @Cs 3-3, 12 tricks in notrump (5@S, 2@H, 2@D, 3@C)... but not necessarily the best of slams.... |pg|| nt|granguru: 1 player per second is coming to our table|pg|| nt|granguru: BBO broke a record 2 days ago more than 6100 users at a time|pg|| nt|roghog: Hungarians may bash it in the other room. they've got to go for it now...|pg|| nt|lrargerich: You have to guess which minor will break 3-3|pg|| nt|roghog: This is a quarterfinal of the 12th World Olympiad. Matches are over 96 boards, in 6 stanzas of 16. This is stanza 4|pg|| nt|granguru: What is the origin ofthe word stanza?|pg|| nt|roghog: Italiano|pg|| nt|inquiry: it use to be a type of nissan.... :-)|pg|| nt|granguru: jejeje|pg|| nt|lrargerich: I think the right play is to run the d9 or play a diamond to the 9 |pg|| nt|granguru: stanza, in italian, means room|pg|| nt|lrargerich: Either QJ onside or diamonds 3-3 produce 4 tricks|pg|| nt|roghog: I can see this match is going to be very educational :-)|pg|| nt|inquiry: the convention card can be found at this link... http://www.bridgebase.com/istanbul|pg|| nt|inquiry: Kkokhlov and rekunov play a three way (forcing) 1@C opening bid, similar to polish club... while szalay and macskasy play precision 1@C|pg|| nt|stewball: hi everyone,welcome|pg|| nt|udo: hi john, hi all, greetings from Munich|pg|| nt|udo: hope this time, we will stay here longer as 5 boards|pg|| nt|ritong: hello everybody :) your commentators will be john stewart from canada, udo kasimir from germany & poor lil me, from france|pg|| nt|stewball: hiya henri,udo|pg|| nt|udo: commenting avec Henri, wow, famous support:)|pg|| nt|ritong: taratata :-)|pg|| nt|udo: :)|pg|| nt|ritong: seems we have some delay..security matters, usually|pg|| nt|ritong: who is our operator?|pg|| nt|stewball: netherlands is here as a result of a very convincing win vs the irish...|pg|| nt|ritong: netherlands is a very strong bridge team|pg|| nt|stewball: russia looked to be very comfortable vs hungary until a furious rally by the hungarians|pg|| nt|ritong: bridge country as well|pg|| nt|jkotor: hello all spectators|pg|| nt|ritong: hello all & welcome your commentators will be drew casen from USA , steve eginton from england & jakub kotorowicz from poland|pg|| nt|Zmud99: Hi all :)) start in 10 mns :)|pg|| nt|eggy: Hello everyone|pg|| nt|drewsky: Hi Henri,Steve,Jakub,and specs|pg|| nt|eggy: I hope that you've completed your democratic chore Drew :¬)|pg|| nt|jkotor: i dont remember link name with cc, anyone to help me?|pg|| nt|eggy: www.bridgebase.com/istanbul|pg|| nt|drewsky: Yes Steve, I voted this morning...for Bush|pg|| nt|eggy: Excellent - I'm for voting, not bothered which candidate|pg|| nt|eggy: as long as they can tie their shoelaces :)|pg|| nt|drewsky: When I was young and smart and poor, I voted for democrates...Now that I am old and dumb and rich, I vote for Republicans|pg|| nt|dburn: If you're not a Democrat when you're twenty, you have no heart. If you're not a Republican when you're forty, you have no head :)|pg|| nt|eggy: or no money :)|pg|| nt|eggy: GBS?|pg|| nt|dburn: The senitments expressed above are not mine. They have been variously attributed to Shaw and Clemenceau, who are both dead, so that not even the Republicans can sue them :)|pg|| nt|brolucius: Synchronise your watches...|pg|| nt|offthebend: This match is too close to call like the US election - though Bush and Italy are favorites|pg|| nt|ritong: hello everybody :) your commentators will be subhash gupta from india, dave thompson from australia & david bird from england welcome, guys|pg|| nt|mrdct: welcome back to istanbul for this third segment of the semi-final encounter between italy and china|pg|| nt|offthebend: Hello Dave, Hi David|pg|| nt|mrdct: as soon as we have some player names up, system cards can be found at http://www.bridgebase.com/istanbul/|pg|| nt|brolucius: I was amazed by aggressive bidding (overbidding...) by the Italians yesterday. Let's see if they always bid like that.|pg|| nt|mrdct: aggressive bridge tends to be winning bridge|pg|| nt|mrdct: the official WBF site is http://www.worldbridge.org/tourn/Istanbul.04/Istanbul.htm but last time I checked it still didn;t have today's bulletin and is missing lots of other key ...|pg|| nt|mrdct: info|pg|| nt|Zmud99: Hi all ! start in 10 mns...|pg|| nt|mrdct: fantoni-nunes play 5-card majors with sound (14+) one-level openings, 10-13 unbalanced natural openings at the two-level and a 12-14 1NT opening|pg|| nt|brolucius: Where are you, Subhash, in Istanbul or at home?|pg|| nt|offthebend: I am at home in New Delhi|pg|| nt|mrdct: i'm just having a read of EW's card now. it can be found at http://www.bridgebase.com/istanbul/|pg|| nt|brolucius: How are the Tandoori Prawns at the Frontier Restaurant?!|pg|| nt|offthebend: you have to come here to taste them !!|pg|| nt|brolucius: My wife and I already did|pg|| nt|offthebend: were they spicy enough for you ?|pg|| nt|mrdct: shi-zhuang are playing a 5-card majors natural system with a 14-17 NT (which can be offshape) and multi-twos. Their 2@D opening is a weak two in either major without a strong ...|pg|| nt|mrdct: option|pg|| nt|mrdct: in bridge, like many other sports, china are very much a sleeping giant that has well and truly woken up|pg|| nt|brolucius: It's great to see China (and Russia) in both semi-finals. Congratulations to them!|pg|| nt|offthebend: So how many aggressive bidders will make a game try with East's hand over a raise ?|pg|| nt|ritong: please welcome tim bourke from australia hiya, tim :)|pg|| nt|offthebend: Hi Tim|pg|| nt|brolucius: Hi Tim|pg|| nt|timb: hi everyone|pg|| nt|timb: it's nice to be working with my oft-time co-author David Bird|pg|| nt|mrdct: g'day tim|pg|| nt|ritong: okay, looks like a very nice pool see you later, folks have fun|pg|| nt|lrargerich: Hi all|pg|| nt|lrargerich: Welcome all|pg|| nt|brolucius: Hi! 54 IMPs behind with 32 boards to play is worrying, but not desperate. |pg|| nt|brolucius: Better to hope for some good boards, rather than go mad with eccentric bids. Let's see what happens!|pg|| nt|brolucius: And if you're only 45 IMPs behind the situation is even better...|pg|| nt|brolucius: Hi Luis!|pg|| nt|murad: .|pg|| nt|murad: Hello and welcome specs and fellow commentators :-)|pg|| nt|copeyj: Good afternoon all|pg|| nt|copeyj: Hi Luis, David & Cinar|pg|| nt|ritong: hello & welcome everybody :) your commentators will be david bird from england, cinar kologlu from turkey, simon cope from england|pg|| nt|brolucius: Great effort from Russia (and China) to reach both semi-finals. Congratulations to them.|pg|| nt|ritong: well, guys wish you fun leave you now :)|pg|| nt|copeyj: Indeed. Let's hope for some boards to make these last 2 segments a real good fight :)|pg|| nt|copeyj: Ty Henri|pg|| nt|murad: Unfortunately (for some of us), Turkey paved the way for Russia to reach this stage|pg|| nt|brolucius: Generous hosts!|pg|| nt|murad: Indeed, we offered the match on a silver platter :-))|pg|| nt|brolucius: Cinar tells me that Russia beat Turkey by only 7 IMPs. Painful!|pg|| nt|brolucius: It shows how lucky England were to lose to Pakistan by a full 37... |pg|| nt|copeyj: Was just thinking the same thing :)|pg|| nt|brolucius: I wouldn't mind waiting so long if the first board didn't look so DULL!|pg|| nt|murad: not the kind of deal Russians would expect|pg|| nt|murad: unless, of course, one side gets excited|pg|| nt|ritong 3: sorry all . our toy is marvelous, but sometimes er...temperamental?|pg|| nt|stewball: hi everyone|pg|| nt|lrargerich: Hi all|pg|| nt|Zmud99: Hi all...start in 12 mns and 17 sec..we will start at board 17...don't worry everything's under control ( for the moment !! )|pg|| nt|ritong: hello & welcome all :-) your commentators will be john stewart & daniel lavee from canada, luis argerich from argentina |pg|| nt|stewball: hiya henri|pg|| nt|ritong: hey turk:)|pg|| nt|thekid1: hey all|pg|| nt|stewball: hi daniel|pg|| nt|lrargerich: Hi all|pg|| nt|stewball: the Italians have truly been grinding the Cinese down,session by session,albeit bit by bit|pg|| nt|ritong: hola luis:)|pg|| nt|stewball: Italy has won 4 of the 5 sessions with the other a draw|pg|| nt|thekid1: china is hanging in there against the best in the world|pg|| nt|stewball: truly|pg|| nt|stewball: fantoni/nunes had a huge 4th quarter vs the americans earlier this week and put them away|pg|| nt|brolucius: Good morning, everyone!|pg|| nt|roghog: hi everyone. good morning David|pg|| nt|bbramley: hello everyone|pg|| nt|brolucius: Hi, Roger|pg|| nt|mrdct: hi everyone|pg|| nt|bbramley: hello roger and david|pg|| nt|udo: hallo all , greetings from Munich|pg|| nt|brolucius: Hi Bart, very impressed with your early analysis of the two-suit double squeeze in the Italy-USA match the other day! |pg|| nt|mrdct: that will give us plenty of time to intro this final between italy and the netherlands|pg|| nt|roghog: Bart, nice to talk to you again. and hi to our lovely viewers @H|pg|| nt|bbramley: thanks, david, i hope we see more deals like that today|pg|| nt|brolucius: We will leave all such complex analysis to you...|pg|| nt|mrdct: versace-lauria vs. prooijen-brink in the open room - still awaiting line-ups for this room|pg|| nt|roghog: specs always put us right if we get the analysis wrong :-)|pg|| nt|mrdct: for holand it will be schollaardt-drijver in this room|pg|| nt|roghog: perhaps I should say ... when we get it wrong!|pg|| nt|roghog: David vs. Goliath here. Any chance for the Dutch???|pg|| nt|Zmud99: Hi all !!...Start in about 9 mns and 13 sec ...|pg|| nt|brolucius: Always a chance in a final. They must have played excellently to reach this stage. |pg|| nt|mrdct: in the round-robin match it was a 15-15 VP tie between thse two teams|pg|| nt|mrdct: i think 1 imp to italy from memory|pg|| nt|roghog: if you go by history, the Dutch will win. after all, David DID beat Goliath!!|pg|| nt|ritong: hello and welcome all :-)|pg|| nt|brolucius: Throwing stones is not allowed here|pg|| nt|mrdct: and italy would be quite pleased to repeat that result|pg|| nt|ritong: your commentators will be david bird from england, dave thompson from australia, udo kasimir from germany, roger bryant from england |pg|| nt|ritong: hi all have fun|pg|| nt|brolucius: We will!|pg|| nt|Zmud99: here we gooo...|pg|| nt|brolucius: Many reckon that Duboin and Bocchi are now the top pair in the world. Let's see.|pg|| nt|bbramley: i looked their RR match yesterday. 45-45 tie, according to the BBO record.|pg|| nt|mrdct: the dutch pair are playing 5-card majors with a short 1@C, 14-17 1NT and multi twos|pg|| nt|Zmud99: Hi all !! Match will start at board 17 in 10 mns :)|pg|| nt|ritong: hello everybody :) your commentators for this set will be jon sveindal from norway & richard reisig from USA|pg|| nt|jbgood: hi Richie and all:)|pg|| nt|reisig: good morning:)|pg|| nt|ritong: okay boys, i m pretty certain you will have support soon have fun all :)|pg|| nt|reisig: I don't think they start for another few minutes|pg|| nt|Zmud99: Hi richie !! :))|pg|| nt|Zmud99: Hi folks !|pg|| nt|reisig: hi Herve:)|pg|| nt|jbgood: Herve:)|pg|| nt|Zmud99: 20 sec..|pg|| nt|Zmud99: 15..|pg|| nt|reisig: The hands that you see are from session 1 ...they won't replay them|pg|| nt|lrargerich: Hi all!|pg|| nt|stewball: hi everyone|pg|| nt|dburn: Good evening from Istanbul|pg|| nt|offthebend: hi all , welcome to the 3rd segment of this close final|pg|| nt|offthebend: Looking at the last hand of the last set - Versace /Lauria don't play some kind of Drury -3H down100|pg|| nt|stewball: the trend from Italy/China is continuing...every session score very close with Italy building small leads each time|pg|| nt|ritong: hello everybody :-) your commentators will be subhash gupta from india , john stewart from canada, luis argerich from argentina and mark thiele from netherland|pg|| nt|stewball: hey henri|pg|| nt|ritong: mark knows the players, he will tell you some about them|pg|| nt|ritong: okay guys have fun :-)|pg|| nt|stewball: hi mark,luis and subhash|pg|| nt|stewball: mark can be our systems guy|pg|| nt|offthebend: Board 1 - normal 3NT, C10 lead , lauria may go down as the cards are.H lead also works quite well|pg|| nt|mthiele: Hi all, lets hope for a good round for the dutchies :)|pg|| nt|stewball: in Canada a dutchie is a doughnut|pg|| nt|mthiele: oh :)|pg|| nt|stewball: with jam in the middle:)|pg|| nt|lrargerich: Actually 3NT is cold on any lead|pg|| nt|offthebend: we can also root for a bad round from Italians ??|pg|| nt|offthebend: Guess the spades right among other things -yes|pg|| nt|Zmud99: Hi folks...start in 5mns 13 sec..|pg|| nt|lrargerich: Let's see the play|pg|| nt|lrargerich: If they lead a heart to the Ace and a heart back|pg|| nt|lrargerich: Jack, queen|pg|| nt|lrargerich: The defense clear hearts|pg|| nt|lrargerich: And now on the spade ace declarer MUST unblock the s9 or he is down|pg|| nt|offthebend: I bet 3N going minus on a C lead|pg|| nt|lrargerich: On a club lead declarer must take the club ace at trick down to win 3NT|pg|| nt|lrargerich: He is down if he plays low from dummy|pg|| nt|offthebend: N can always duck the second C to maintain communication|pg|| nt|brolucius: Welcome, everyone!|pg|| nt|brolucius: 38 IMPs is not insurmountable, as the Russian ladies showed us yesterday|pg|| nt|ritong: hello and welcome :) your commentators will be david bird & david burn from england seconded by jon sveidal from norway|pg|| nt|dburn: Shouldn't that be thirded?|pg|| nt|dburn: Good afternoon from Istanbul|pg|| nt|dburn: I don't know the Italian lineup, but Norberto Bocchi is sitting opposite me in the press room, which may be a clue|pg|| nt|ritong: i spared you twiddledee & twiddledum:)|pg|| nt|brolucius: The Dutch team are incredibly young. Unfair that they should play so well in their 20s|pg|| nt|brolucius: Jansma-Verhees are in their early 40s, a kibitzer tells me, the others in their 20s|pg|| nt|dburn: Jansma and Verhees are in their forties. Maybe they will play twice as well.|pg|| nt|ritong: wlc jon sveindal|pg|| nt|jbgood: hi:)|pg|| nt|jbgood: and tu|pg|| nt|ritong: :-)|pg|| nt|brolucius: In that case, David, I should play 3 times as well|pg|| nt|mcphee: some sex changes in the last segment?|pg|| nt|brolucius: Hi everyone! You are watching the right match.|pg|| nt|brolucius: An exciting climax (we hope) to a fantastic women's final|pg|| nt|brolucius: A 17-IMP swing in 6@D on the last board of the previous set has kept the Americans in the hunt|pg|| nt|mcphee: Russian ladies have been preforming very well|pg|| nt|roghog: hi folks|pg|| nt|brolucius: I was commentating yesterday, on the set where the Russians put up a 67-0 lead. They played very courageously.|pg|| nt|ritong: hello & welcome all :-)|pg|| nt|mcphee: 35 imps is not an insurmountable task|pg|| nt|roghog: have USA brought in Fantunes to help??|pg|| nt|brolucius: The answer is not to panic if you lose an early swing. 35 is a big cushion.|pg|| nt|mcphee: these are the cross dressers|pg|| nt|roghog: I'm in the right room, then :-)|pg|| nt|brolucius: The (wrong) names will be fixed very quickly|pg|| nt|ritong: hello all|pg|| nt|mcphee: welcome Roger Bryant, and David Bird of England, I'm Bob from the northern woods of Canada|pg|| nt|ritong: your commentators : david bird & roger bryant from england, bob mcphee from canada|pg|| nt|roghog: talking of wrong names, David, I see you didnt choose TheAbbott as your nick...|pg|| nt|ritong: yeah, i noticed that too:)|pg|| nt|roghog: remind us, is BroLucius the clever one?|pg|| nt|brolucius: Someone else pinched 'Abbot' and 'The Abbot' first. Same on AOL!|pg|| nt|brolucius: Yes, the clever one, but don't expect too much|pg|| nt|brolucius: Hurray, the names are coming...|pg|| nt|swanson: sure|pg|| nt|mcphee: Montin and Myers well expirienced at this level|pg|| nt|ritong: welcome to john swanson USA hi john:)|pg|| nt|mcphee: hi John|pg|| nt|brolucius: Hi John!|pg|| nt|swanson: Hi All|pg|| nt|ritong: okay folks have fun !|pg|| nt|brolucius: This is the Russian pair that I watched yesterday. They impressed me.|pg|| nt|swanson: What has been happening to my relatives? Is Russia playing super?|pg|| nt|brolucius: You will see in a moment how they play...|pg|| nt|roghog: Polish 1@c vs. modified Standard American|pg|| nt|brolucius: If I remember right, this is a board from yesterday|pg|| nt|szalay: hi all|pg|| nt|ritong: hello all :) your commentators will be tim bourke from australia ,gyorgy szalay from hungary & wayne burrows from new zealand|pg|| nt|timb: hi everyone|pg|| nt|szalay: hi all|pg|| nt|szalay: I bet French pair play French 5-card major, Bulgarians probably precision|pg|| nt|szalay: -40 isn't much...especially if teams are playing different sys and Great Shuffler will be in good shape:-)|pg|| nt|cascade: Operator do you know how long until we start?|pg|| mb|1C|nt|roghog: against either, you try (if you can) to bounce the auction to stop the 1@c-er defining his hand. could be some action!!|pg|| nt|lrargerich: And he has to guess diamonds |pg|| nt|brolucius: 1@S - 1NT - 2NT - 3NT was the bidding|pg|| nt|shurik: Hi all|pg|| nt|roghog: All the Convention Cards are on http://www.bridgebase.com/istanbul|pg|| mb|1D|nt|mrdct: we are away!|pg|| mb|1S|nt|roghog: natural GF|pg|| nt|ritong: okay, herve will start soon c'est parti!|pg|| nt|brolucius: Zhuang may open East hand 1NT, rather than 1S, to avoid a rebid problem|pg|| nt|murad: looks like we have some action|pg|| nt|mrdct: bocchi-duboin play 5-card majors with a variable 1NT opening, weak twos and transfer responses to 1@C|pg|| nt|brolucius: What are the players' heart rates as they take their seats? 120? 140?|pg|| nt|brolucius: Hi, Jon|pg|| mb|p|nt|cherilou: the winning team gets to pick it's opp next round|pg|| nt|roghog: 120 , 140 are they scores or heart-rates?|pg|| nt|ritong: here we go have fun, folks !:)|pg|| nt|cascade: Looks like we are starting welcome everyone - Hi Gyorgy and Tim|pg|| nt|szalay: nice start for Bulgaria! 2@H was modified Norwegian toy: bot majors, weak|pg|| mb|3S|nt|gcohler: and is there carryover if these two teams later meet?|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Good afternoon everyone|pg|| nt|gcohler: 3 ht is a big big bid here|pg|| nt|cherilou: I don't know|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Your commentarors for this match are Cheri Bjerkan, Gary Cohler, USA, Jon Sveindal, Norway, and Vivianne Lechtman, Venezuela|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Welcome to you|pg|| nt|cherilou: Hi Roland|pg|| nt|mrdct: system cards: http://www.bridgebase.com/istanbul/|pg|| nt|timb: this is how the closed room in the closed room began - cost Nunes-Fantoni 300|pg|| nt|timb: in open final|pg|| nt|szalay: especially good news: 3N is down, IMHO|pg|| nt|timb: with 3NT down 2 in the other room for 9 to netherlands|pg|| mb|p|nt|jbgood: hi Roland|pg|| nt|eggy: good morning everyone, welcome to this revised schedule England vs Pakistan (who england chose as opponents)|pg|| nt|nils123: hi :-)|pg|| nt|murad: the dutch are unlikely to enter the bidding after a natural 1S by Doubinine|pg|| mb|4S|nt|eggy: But England now need a serious recovery to make a match of it|pg|| nt|kareno: Good morning all! A practical auction and a makeable contract with the loss of only three club tricks.|pg|| nt|eggy: if you want to see the players system cards, you can find them on www.bridgebase.com/istanbul |pg|| nt|kareno: I'm assuming the trump shift once south starts playing on clubs, if he does.|pg|| nt|thor17: Guess names are coming...|pg|| nt|nils123: seems like berthau-nystrřm ew|pg|| nt|nils123: the sweedes needs some imps, lets hope they dont bid 7h mising KQJ today|pg|| nt|thor17: is this the last segment of the match??|pg|| nt|mrdct: EW's methods include an offshape 1NT opening|pg|| nt|offthebend: So, do we see shades of the famed Blue team in this current Italian team to dominate for few years|pg|| nt|dburn: Lest there shoud be any doubt: Jansma is 42, Verhees is 40, Drijver is 24, Schollardt is 27, Brink is 23 and van Prooijen is 31|pg|| mb|p|nt|roghog: N knows his partner has an opening-strength hand with @d|pg|| nt|brolucius: Great for them to have three strong pairs and no weak link|pg|| nt|cascade: did Stefanov have some doubt there about passing|pg|| nt|szalay: it could be 500 with perfect bidding|pg|| nt|szalay: defence|pg|| nt|timb: the question is should one overcall 3@C on this hand opposite a passed partner? Where is the upside?|pg|| mb|p|nt|nils123: yes|pg|| nt|udo: looks like a routine 3 SA here, quiet one to start|pg|| mb|p|nt|Walddk2: 16 boards in the women's event|pg|| nt|nils123: 16 boards to go, trailing by 30.... not a good feeling|pg|| nt|ahh: hi all|pg|| nt|lrargerich: What is 2NT ?, probably 2@s artificial?|pg|| pc|d6|nt|curtis: Yo|pg|| nt|thor17: Yo to you too|pg|| nt|nils123: yo curtis|pg|| nt|udo: best contract reached in a hurry ?|pg|| nt|mrdct: this contract looks hopeless|pg|| nt|murad: well well|pg|| nt|stewball: I'm betting a coke on Fantoni,,any takers?|pg|| nt|offthebend: you are on along with a donut|pg|| nt|lrargerich: On Fantoni down 1 ? |pg|| nt|mthiele: the dutch play 'orange club' which is derived of the 'polish club' where 1@c = 12-14 balanced or 16+ with @c or a strong hand|pg|| nt|dburn: 1@c was clubs or 15+balanced. 1@d showed hearts.|pg|| nt|dburn: Brother Lucius is 94|pg|| nt|brolucius: A walking encyclopedia|pg|| nt|dburn: and 3NT is cold, so this is a quiet start to the fourth segment|pg|| nt|brolucius: Have you forgotten your own age? We haven't heard that yet|pg|| nt|dburn: I am well into my dotage. I expect I was born sometime, but I can't recall when, or indeed why.|pg|| nt|brolucius: The 'why' is so you can commentate on this final|pg|| pc|d4|nt|roghog: don't know. can specs help?|pg|| nt|lrargerich: This is not a very sophisticated sequence|pg|| nt|lrargerich: For a pair playing a club system this lookw rusty|pg|| nt|offthebend: This contract is doomed despite the fav lead.C shift sooner or later|pg|| nt|dburn: so Jansma will probably lead diamonds|pg|| nt|lrargerich: Helpful lead |pg|| nt|dburn: That must have been it.|pg|| nt|brolucius: Nice lead by Fantoni but it will not be enough|pg|| nt|jbgood: he will have to let a @h go when running clubs|pg|| nt|dburn: Jansma and Verhees use a system based on Polish Club|pg|| nt|dburn: FIve-card majors, strong no trump, 1@c mulit-meaning, mostly natural|pg|| nt|dburn: Fantoni and Nunes use a method of their own that is unique in top-level bridge|pg|| pc|dT|nt|nils123: 3h is an interesting contract|pg|| nt|ahh: so ireland have reasonable lead can they hold on |pg|| nt|ahh: i am asked how ireland gained 15 overnight there must have been an appeal however i do not know the details|pg|| nt|thor17: this Swedish pair is active by nature..expect will be even more active now (3H bid = early evidence)|pg|| nt|nils123: with a club lead he is close to make....|pg|| nt|ahh: nystrom cant be thinking of bidding?|pg|| nt|thor17: might pull here with unfortunate result|pg|| nt|nils123: must be... at least he has 7 @D... lol|pg|| nt|curtis: don't see it|pg|| nt|vugraph196: nystrom is thinking|pg|| nt|nils123: club lead he rise with Q and play new club... will be interesting play|pg|| nt|curtis: not like he doesn't have a decent hand for partner jumping in like that|pg|| nt|ahh: sweaty 1st board whatever happens|pg|| nt|thor17: he backed in, didnt "jump in":)|pg|| nt|ahh: longer he thinks more likely he will bid|pg|| nt|thor17: indeed|pg|| nt|curtis: I'll be more careful with my verbs|pg|| nt|nils123: well, he could also balance dbl, so no need to run with 98 in support i thk|pg|| pc|dK|pg|| nt|mcphee: good day everyone|pg|| pc|s3|nt|ahh: lost my 1st bet :)|pg|| nt|nils123: he avoided the club lead, now i guess they beat it for sure|pg|| nt|curtis: finding the tap suit immediately|pg|| nt|thor17: could get very ugly now for Bertheau|pg|| nt|nils123: not very.... |pg|| nt|nils123: very ugly was 7hx-3, this is just early morning exersice|pg|| nt|nils123: would u dbl 3@h on south hand?|pg|| nt|thor17: i missed the 7Hx so ugliness is all relative :)|pg|| nt|curtis: yep - huge upside|pg|| nt|nils123: berhau is picturing the lay out of the hands.... not sure he finds out|pg|| nt|curtis: 7H from yesterday was by Fredin-Lindkvist. B-N defended game|pg|| nt|curtis: A10x facing xxxxx|pg|| nt|stewball: 1020 coming |pg|| nt|ritong: first deals can be weird, due to "board-lag" think things will be normal soon|pg|| nt|jbgood: hi Udo and all, any idea of who are playing at this table?|pg|| nt|stewball: i dont see who is sitting where?|pg|| nt|ritong: not yet, jon :)|pg|| nt|ritong: herve will fill in soon|pg|| nt|udo: no sy, i have CC s of two üairs and wait for the names|pg|| nt|stewball: looks like the dutch are N/S here|pg|| nt|ritong: you are most welcome, jon :-)|pg|| nt|jbgood: tu|pg|| nt|stewball: sorry E/W|pg|| nt|brolucius: Very bold and risky protection by West.|pg|| nt|ritong 3: jan " the squirrel" jansma can take unexpected positions:)|pg|| nt|murad: trump switch may set|pg|| nt|dburn: and that will mean that the coke investors had better put their money on declarer|pg|| nt|offthebend: Jansma took all the fun away |pg|| nt|dburn: All opening bids at the one level are forcing; 1@c natural or balanced, others natural|pg|| nt|timb: if partner hadn't passed, 3@C is clear|pg|| pc|s2|nt|nils123: i know i commentated it... but for me a sweede is a sweede.. lol|pg|| nt|timb: a club shift is coming|pg|| nt|roghog: I think our viewers have settled in, so…Welcome to live bridge from Istanbul. This is the final of the 12th World Olympiad. This is the first of eight 16-board stanzas|pg|| nt|brolucius: Many thanks to BBO for giving us the chance to watch this action|pg|| nt|cascade: exactly |pg|| pc|sA|nt|gcohler: should be down 1|pg|| pc|s4|pg|| nt|cherilou: Feels like E had her 4@H bid but they're down 1 and 3@S was down 1|pg|| nt|ahh: it was great fun :)|pg|| nt|curtis: you all look alike to us|pg|| nt|thor17: I assume the KQJ were not singleton|pg|| nt|curtis: scandinavians|pg|| nt|inquiry: the @HT9 doubleton gives a second way to 12 tricks... this should make even if norht goes for @Ds.....|pg|| nt|lrargerich: They play in 6NT is quite interesting|pg|| nt|inquiry: instead of clubs|pg|| nt|lrargerich: I think it's right to go for diamonds instead of clubs|pg|| nt|lrargerich: If you make 4 diamond tricks you don't need the heart finesse|pg|| nt|lrargerich: I'm told a Pakistani declarer went down on the @hT lead|pg|| nt|roghog: agreed|pg|| nt|inquiry: yes and with @D spots, best is @DKA incase doubleton... honor... but when WEST shows out, the lucky heart situation sees you home....|pg|| nt|roghog: 10@h looks a sensible lead. Sz probably asking about the auction|pg|| nt|mrdct: NS will have a few chances to get it right too|pg|| nt|murad: well done by Gromov|pg|| nt|szalay: may be pass and 3@C reopen is better if they sign off (rather 2@S: south has many @Hs|pg|| pc|sK|nt|kareno: And with both clubs onside as well as both diamonds, an overtrick is possible. South is playing for the diamond jack in west, playing for safety.|pg|| nt|eggy: Yes,declater can see 10 tricks with the favourable @D position and doesn't want to risk a ruff|pg|| nt|ahh: for this match i am honorary irishman |pg|| nt|roghog: expert commentator wrong again!!|pg|| nt|stewball: i'm directionally challeneged|pg|| nt|dburn: Tow-level openings are intermediate, about 9-13 hcp|pg|| pc|d3|nt|gcohler: now they casn make it needed d shift from other hand|pg|| pc|s6|nt|copeyj: Good afternoon everyone :-)|pg|| nt|curtis: hi Bob|pg|| nt|nils123: i know, handsome blonde scandinavians, all look the same... lol|pg|| nt|curtis: I guess he plays spades now and then runs them through North|pg|| nt|nils123: wow 7C ...|pg|| nt|ahh: hairy redhead celts all the same too|pg|| nt|curtis: I'm switching to icelandic|pg|| nt|thor17: Careful Nils...Ekeblad is Swedish...being 5 generations removed from the homeland, I am almost "cured" :)|pg|| nt|brolucius: North will have to pitch a heart on 5th club|pg|| pc|s5|pg|| nt|cherilou: yes|pg|| nt|jbgood: she makes du to the fact that thre hearts are with three clubs|pg|| nt|lrargerich: Now this is ice-cold|pg|| pc|dQ|nt|ritong: :)|pg|| nt|stewball: thnks to the 100 specs who pointed this out to me...lol|pg|| nt|mrdct: probably 3 or 4 doen now|pg|| nt|brolucius: Declarer might have cashed AK of diamonds, just in case the queen fell.|pg|| nt|mrdct: today's bulletin is available from http://www.tbricfed.org.tr/newsite/docs/bul_11%20600dpi.pdf|pg|| nt|offthebend: He could have played on D before S - may be the luck with DQ dropping|pg|| nt|mrdct: same contract in the open room|pg|| nt|roghog: typical Bocchi overcall. always costs me 500...|pg|| nt|udo: @H now ?|pg|| nt|bbramley: italians are very aggressive overcalling, even with bad suits|pg|| nt|timb: @D8 looks obvious|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d2|pc|d8|pg|| nt|ahh: swedes not lucky in 7 next time may have ace of trumps :)|pg|| nt|inquiry: well.. this lead given the bidding seems wrong|pg|| nt|szalay: as to take it with ace|pg|| pc|h6|nt|murad: down now|pg|| nt|bbramley: good morning everyone|pg|| pc|h8|nt|nils123: must have been an interesting bidding in other room.... 7@C, only 2 down..|pg|| pc|h9|nt|dburn: and a spectator tells me that I am to refer to the Dutch system as the "Orange Club"|pg|| pc|hJ|pg|| nt|kareno: Now he'll make only ten tricks. |pg|| nt|nils123: lol, yes ace is absolutely recomended when bid 7|pg|| nt|ahh: anyhow great start for ireland|pg|| nt|thor17: looking at 42+ deficit after this hand|pg|| nt|nils123: i know, there are alot of x-scandinavians in usa, half of the country mooved, only the good stayed.. hehe|pg|| pc|c7|nt|dburn: At the other table, after a strong no trump and Stayman sequence, South is less likely to lead diamonds (though may still do so)|pg|| nt|mthiele: fantoni will play @s correct now|pg|| nt|offthebend: Not a great start for the Dutch,I am afraid|pg|| nt|dburn: I am told that South for Italy has led a heart, so if you want to back the defence, that is the table to visit|pg|| nt|offthebend: Plus 10 for Italy|pg|| nt|mthiele: grr|pg|| nt|dburn: Not necessarily. Declarer may still make the contract on a heart lead, but it will not be so easy.|pg|| pc|cT|nt|nils123: spade to ruff and hk now|pg|| pc|cK|nt|offthebend: He is settling for down two|pg|| pc|c9|pg|| nt|thor17: Lot of Norwegians too..Karl Rolvaag(sp?) told their whole story|pg|| nt|nils123: 2 down i guess?|pg|| nt|mthiele: on a heartlead declarer has to make a lot of good decisions|pg|| pc|d7|nt|roghog: seems to work for them, though|pg|| nt|szalay: good endplay!|pg|| nt|szalay: wd, Cathrine|pg|| nt|ritong: bienvenue a pierre yves guillaumin salut, PY|pg|| nt|szalay: salut|pg|| nt|timb: down one is excellent|pg|| nt|pyg: bonjour ŕ tous|pg|| pc|d9|nt|lrargerich: Yes, natural 2@d and 5@d forbid the diamond lead|pg|| pc|sJ|nt|brolucius: That's the same pattern as yesterday. The declaring side bid forwardly but the defence is tight.|pg|| nt|offthebend: It should not be a big loss-knowing the aggressive Italians|pg|| nt|mrdct: it will reasonable stragy for the chinese to match the italians' aggression|pg|| pc|d5|pg|| nt|nils123: maybe they can hold him to 6 now?|pg|| nt|roghog: yes. 2@d is definitely natural GF|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|o2|st||md|4ST863HKD63CKQT942,SKQJ4H975DKT92CA6,SA2HAT4DQJ875CJ75,S975HQJ8632DA4C83|sv|n|mb|p|mb|p|nt|jtr: No weak 2?|pg|| mb|1N|nt|gal: he plays that with 5c suit|pg|| mb|p|nt|szalay: its 2 strong 4 them|pg|| mb|2H|nt|gal: winkler opened 2 hearts at the other room|pg|| nt|szalay: i bet szilagyi overcalls|pg|| mb|3C|nt|jtr: What is 2@h Gyorgy No transfers?|pg|| nt|szalay: 3@C is ok, 9 tricks|pg|| mb|3H|nt|szalay: they play 2M s/o over weak NT|pg|| nt|szalay: Szabo figured out his pd has relatively good hand after pass|pg|| nt|jtr: 3@h could be defeated|pg|| nt|jtr: but with very tough defence|pg|| mb|4C|nt|gal: another possibility is that he has four spades which would suit him as well|pg|| nt|szalay: 4@H now wd be a serious violance|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|sK|pc|s2|nt|panja: if he ducks this, W has to find @D shift|pg|| pc|s9|pc|s6|pg|| nt|jtr: defence will need to play 1cs which i am sure they will|pg|| nt|szalay: fine play by South:-)|pg|| nt|jtr: @cs|pg|| pc|h9|nt|jtr: no @c is ok|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h2|pc|hK|pg|| nt|panja: y, or trumps|pg|| nt|gal: it still goes down|pg|| pc|d6|nt|jtr: he cant communicate still|pg|| nt|szalay: but he can manage it: no entries for 2 @S ruffs|pg|| nt|szalay: cant|pg|| pc|d2|nt|jtr: lol nice play all the same|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|dA|pg|| nt|jtr: now a @c is necessary|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s3|pc|s4|pc|sA|pg|| pc|hA|nt|jtr: very nice deceptive play by South|pg|| pc|h8|nt|szalay: it was a mistake by East|pg|| pc|d3|pc|h5|pg|| pc|hT|pc|hQ|pc|c2|pc|h7|pg|| nt|gal: yes but you must help them making mistakes|pg|| pc|s8|pc|sJ|nt|szalay: Szilagyi is 1 of the best declarer in the World|pg|| nt|jtr: yes Riesz should get it right|pg|| pc|d7|nt|panja: luck needs a chance.............|pg|| pc|s7|pg|| nt|josj: and a double partscore swing to the Old Men|pg|| nt|szalay: old? I'm 35:-)|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|c2|st||md|4ST863HKD63CKQT942,SKQJ4H975DKT92CA6,SA2HAT4DQJ875CJ75,S975HQJ8632DA4C83|sv|n|nt|gcohler: actually tough to beat must cas 2 spades ending in north hand and shift to low d|pg|| nt|lethal666: ..|pg|| nt|copeyj: Hi Curtis, Hi Bob|pg|| nt|curtis: Simon|pg|| nt|nils123: anther strong irish result i open|pg|| nt|inquiry: west will open 1NT.. (12-16)|pg|| nt|Zmud99: nunes left the table...|pg|| nt|timb: you could go more conservative, reasoning it would be difficult to match them in the play |pg|| nt|brolucius: He wants to tell his wife about the club shift|pg|| nt|mrdct: i'm told the italians are in 3@Sx in the other room - which can;t be good for italy|pg|| nt|offthebend: First three to bid may open the bidding. Let us see who wins|pg|| nt|cascade: 3@c failed by three tricks in the other room|pg|| nt|pyg: hello Wayne|pg|| mb|2H|nt|ahh: ireland have started like a train|pg|| nt|copeyj: 9 high 5 card @S suits the order of the day it seems :)|pg|| nt|mthiele: a 4@s on a @s decision|pg|| nt|lrargerich: Restricted choice working again|pg|| nt|stewball: if the Italians dont save that is|pg|| nt|dburn: One wonders whether the Dutch equivalent of James Bond was codenamed "Agent Orange"|pg|| mb|p|nt|gcohler: sorry that doesnt even work|pg|| nt|mcphee: welcome Curtis Cheek|pg|| nt|murad: :-)|pg|| nt|mrdct: 10 tricks in the other room - so a flat board to start with|pg|| mb|p|nt|cherilou: 3NT here|pg|| nt|mcphee: and Simon Cope|pg|| nt|kareno: There's an alumnus of the Pakistan team on the U.S. team now. Zia is one of the most famous bridge players in the world!|pg|| nt|nils123: he did nice passing... i wouldnt for sure!|pg|| nt|inquiry: hmmmm|pg|| nt|inquiry: I wonder if their 1NT denies two four card majors?|pg|| nt|stewball: so 2 earned imps to the dutch against the 6@d in the open room|pg|| nt|mrdct: EW look to have 3NT here|pg|| nt|brolucius: We saw yesterday that some players double with 4/5 spades and use 1S artificially|pg|| nt|offthebend: 1S ? Looks like it shows D|pg|| nt|mrdct: we hope so!|pg|| nt|offthebend: 4s on a spade guess-back to back restricted choice|pg|| mb|p|nt|roghog: Sz not young enough to open!|pg|| nt|ritong: well well here we go now|pg|| nt|ritong: my action would be 3@cs, "prebalancing"|pg|| nt|udo: 3@H max for NS|pg|| nt|stewball: this seems to be some sort of constructive raise...I dont have the cc's up....|pg|| nt|murad: 1 NT seems to be the limit against best defense|pg|| nt|mrdct: the dutch have wrong-side NTs now|pg|| nt|udo: he is thinking about 2 @D ?|pg|| nt|dburn: 3@c is Ghestem for the red suits|pg|| nt|stewball: i'm betting 5@hx|pg|| nt|lrargerich: Russians made 4@h in this one|pg|| nt|dburn: for which Fantoni seems to have a pretty good fit|pg|| nt|lrargerich: After nunes showed the red suits they are going to defend in 5@d or 5@h|pg|| pc|cK|nt|mcphee: a "mini" @S call from Gann to stir things up early|pg|| nt|curtis: Together, our contestants have over 25 pages of notes|pg|| nt|copeyj: Does that mean you have been studying Curtis?|pg|| nt|curtis: notice has been served|pg|| nt|brolucius: What range is the 1NT opening?|pg|| nt|dburn: 1@h is ostensibly five cards, but in third seat more or less anything goes|pg|| nt|szalay: ice-cold 6@S, no @H ruff..."only" to bid it:-)|pg|| pc|cA|nt|cherilou: EW play weak NT NV so this shows 15-17|pg|| nt|nils123: he is more afraid of getting dbl in red than missing a game|pg|| nt|jtr: Good afternoon from Istanbul|pg|| nt|thor17: hi david|pg|| nt|ahh: surprised they did not get to 2@H that plays ok|pg|| nt|stewball: apparently not|pg|| nt|udo: yes, seems clear , to bid now, always the hand with shortness in opps fit should bid|pg|| nt|brolucius: If so South will bid 2@H|pg|| nt|udo: probably 6-4 majors|pg|| nt|dburn: 3@s is merely competitive - 3@h or 3@d would be used to show a constructve spade raise|pg|| nt|lrargerich: So Jansma thinks he is "saving" ? Maybe....|pg|| nt|offthebend: Restricted choice would have been a child's play on this one|pg|| pc|c7|nt|yeshoney: will they be able to stop in 3nt |pg|| nt|mcphee: gee Curits, the only notes you ever read were the ones you had to take home to Mom from your teachers|pg|| nt|curtis: You will all be quizzed throughout the match|pg|| nt|vugraph196: guray ben... cengiz gitti|pg|| nt|copeyj: hehe|pg|| nt|nils123: hi there, looks like u can hold the champagne ready|pg|| nt|murad: or 2@D if defense cash out winners|pg|| pc|c8|pg|| nt|gcohler: arnolds is not the timid one!|pg|| nt|jtr: re Russ No agreeing today please The specs prefer controversy:-)|pg|| nt|thor17: probably 1D-1N overcall-X: Not clear to move with N|pg|| nt|nils123: i bet they end up with more trikc defending 1nt than playing it themselves|pg|| nt|thor17: trying to spice it up|pg|| nt|jtr: Not quite finished the chicken counting yet:-)|pg|| nt|ahh: north is really garvey not garnev no bulgarian ringer playing|pg|| nt|ritong: second chance|pg|| nt|mrdct: i think on a @H in 3NT you can duck a few times and then squeeze south perhaps?|pg|| pc|h5|nt|jbgood: weak nt only in white against red|pg|| nt|eggy: that's a pretty hefty 3@S especially in Hackett style|pg|| nt|kareno: Good double by south.|pg|| nt|murad: makeable on non-heart lead|pg|| nt|murad: especially on club lead|pg|| nt|brolucius: If it is 12-14, I don't think North is worth a forward move. |pg|| nt|murad: club lead gives a trick and tempo|pg|| pc|h4|pc|hQ|nt|inquiry: russia did pick up one imp on board 1....|pg|| nt|murad: good lead|pg|| nt|udo: easy 8 or 9 tricks ?|pg|| nt|udo: with @S s especially well placed|pg|| nt|roghog: nice gadget, GD, I'll remember that one|pg|| nt|mrdct: the italians have bid this to 3NT by east in the open room on the @HJ lead|pg|| nt|stewball: Jansma has no way of knowing if this is a make,,,more likely he's expecting a save|pg|| nt|dburn: With @hA right and 3-3 diamonds, this is a slam|pg|| nt|dburn: but that is roughly an 18% chance in the abstract|pg|| nt|dburn: However, after the opening bid, the odds change somewhat (and there are other winning diamond positions for declarer)|pg|| nt|brolucius: Fantoni had holes in every suit, and it is a poor slam anyway (even with heart ace likely to be right)|pg|| nt|ritong: welcome to mark thiele, who wimm bring us some dutch touch|pg|| nt|ritong: will*|pg|| nt|mthiele: hiay all !|pg|| nt|brolucius: Yes, if the @DJ or @D10 falls from East on the second round, Restricted Choice applies |pg|| nt|dburn: The Dutch in the other room are likely to have a free run, and are not likely to bid a slam|pg|| nt|cascade: this is a Precision 2@c opening|pg|| pc|hK|pg|| nt|ahh: so sweden play 1nt in each room |pg|| nt|nils123: 2 down seems alot, no chance to get 6 tricks ?|pg|| nt|mrdct: looks like a swing of at least 3 imps to italy|pg|| nt|brolucius: Right to lead the honour from J-10-x-x, against a suit contract. Make the honours count on the first two rounds.|pg|| nt|cascade: hard to bid 6@s when they do not mention the suit|pg|| nt|szalay: I prefer Precision 2@D, not @C with 4405|pg|| nt|szalay: u cant bid BOTH your majors after 2@C|pg|| pc|d6|nt|Walddk2: Your commentators for this match are Karen Allison, USA, Steve Eginton, England, and Venkatesh Ramaratnam, India|pg|| nt|thor17: curtis..u go back to bed? :)|pg|| nt|jtr: this is far from making either|pg|| nt|udo: 3 @C make, 2 @S could be in danger|pg|| nt|brolucius: Nice play by East, too|pg|| nt|pyg: As north did not overcalled it became tougher to find slam|pg|| pc|d9|nt|Walddk2: Welcome guys|pg|| nt|murad: verhees should find the club switch at some point|pg|| nt|szalay: but I with upgrade it to 1@C, anyway|pg|| pc|dJ|nt|cherilou: NS set up for big penalty|pg|| nt|jbgood: 10-12 1st and 2nd pos - 11-15 3rd and 4th pos|pg|| nt|brolucius: Playing 3rd/5th leads, East can see five tricks and needs to find a six in one of the black suits |pg|| nt|brolucius: ...but he has guessed wrong|pg|| nt|copeyj: Unfortunate for Verhees, the @S switch allows 2N to make. would it have been worth cashing A@H to try and get some kind if signal from Jansma?|pg|| nt|murad: the defense can still prevail|pg|| nt|offthebend: Very true|pg|| nt|jbgood: Hi Mark|pg|| pc|dA|pg|| nt|nils123: need to play @d|pg|| nt|mthiele: pas by jansma means he is willing to play 5@s|pg|| nt|stewball: he has plenty of losers opposite a competitve 3@s|pg|| nt|dburn: Perhaps Verhees regarded South's pass to 5@d as forcing, and perhaps he was right to do so|pg|| pc|d4|nt|copeyj: This may make, for the loss of 1@D and 1@C|pg|| nt|curtis: well done by Nystrom to raise|pg|| nt|kareno: Zia is from Pakistan and lives in New York City now. |pg|| nt|eggy: well it gains 50 anyway|pg|| nt|kareno: Thanks, Roland.|pg|| nt|rv: tks Roland|pg|| nt|kareno: It's a good, practical double by south, who has enough values to feel he has equity at this level after his partner's original takeout double.|pg|| nt|rv: Hi Karen and Steve|pg|| nt|brolucius: Spades are blocked and East still has a chance to switch to clubs|pg|| pc|d3|nt|cherilou: Ah, that 1 imp revenge|pg|| nt|udo: 4@H, .... to much for me|pg|| nt|sommer: hi|pg|| nt|jbgood: passing 2 and then bidding game seems a bit undiciplined with south's hand|pg|| nt|ritong: welcome to povl sommer ffrom denmark hej, povl:)|pg|| nt|udo: wlc povl Sommer from denmark|pg|| nt|sommer: ducking a @S gives chances, I guess|pg|| nt|udo: :))|pg|| nt|jbgood: hi Povl|pg|| nt|sommer: hi:)|pg|| nt|copeyj: Hold up @Ds until the 3rd round, and then play a @C through|pg|| pc|dK|nt|mcphee: Nystron of course felt hi K@H was a good card|pg|| nt|kareno: Hi, Venky :)|pg|| pc|d5|pg|| nt|roghog: another helpful lead|pg|| nt|szalay: upgrade is especcially good move when NV/V|pg|| nt|pyg: bad point for EW auction they did not found their 5/4fit|pg|| pc|h7|nt|copeyj: Hi to our operator in Istanbul also, Afternoon Guray|pg|| nt|vugraph196: thank you... welcome|pg|| nt|mcphee: 196|pg|| nt|curtis: Hi Guray|pg|| nt|jtr: confucius he say both sides play 1NT one side wrong Here though both sides are wrong|pg|| nt|nils123: lol, true|pg|| nt|udo: the fall of all missing @S.honours gives some chance, indeed|pg|| nt|udo: defenders better open @D early|pg|| nt|sommer: it's cold, and whats better than to play for the fall of KQx of @S|pg|| nt|udo: nothing?:))))|pg|| nt|ritong: playing for KQ onside with the balancer...|pg|| nt|sommer: no:)|pg|| nt|dburn: but, compelled to bid 5@s or double, his actual choice looks rather odd|pg|| nt|lrargerich: Doesn't look like a forcing pass situation to me|pg|| nt|offthebend: Again the result not likely to favor the Dutch -at least I feel|pg|| pc|hT|pc|hJ|nt|nils123: so ireland make 7 and 8 tricks in defence 1nt on same hand|pg|| nt|jtr: needs to switch @d|pg|| nt|ahh: certainly cant complain about lack of action already|pg|| nt|curtis: Sweden better hope the hands turn wild. In USA-Venenzuela womens yesterday 126 IMPs scored in 16 boards. 63-63 tie|pg|| nt|nils123: y, but with that dummy it should be possible|pg|| nt|stewball: ratio of offence to defense would dictate DBL one would think|pg|| nt|mthiele: when vuln against non-vuln they play forcing pass|pg|| nt|stewball: perhaps the VUL dictated forcing pass|pg|| nt|dburn: He may, with reason, have feared a double fit - East-West with the red suits, North-South with the black suits|pg|| nt|mthiele: but dbl on 5@d looked more straughtforward with the southhand|pg|| nt|offthebend: No way this is a forcing pass situation.|pg|| nt|dburn: in which case, perhaps both sides could make 11 tricks, but I feel that if 5@s was going to make opposite what North had, South would have bid it.|pg|| nt|offthebend: He may not be sure of beating it|pg|| nt|stewball: Jansma has no particular reason to think he can defeat 5@d|pg|| pc|c2|pg|| nt|mthiele: it's the consequence of a forcing pass situation, just following the law|pg|| pc|s5|nt|mthiele: let's hope the dutch have a good day today !|pg|| pc|s3|nt|copeyj: Bingo|pg|| nt|curtis: guray is messing with us already|pg|| nt|mcphee: gin as they say|pg|| pc|sK|nt|jtr: possible but.....|pg|| pc|s2|pg|| nt|nils123: hm, can u see a line fo rdown turing a club?|pg|| pc|dT|nt|yeshoney: H lead would make it harder but still makes|pg|| nt|cherilou: S will find it hard to believe no way to the N hand after this auction|pg|| nt|jbgood: :))|pg|| nt|eggy: not so practical now perhaps|pg|| nt|offthebend: Isn't 5D a much better contract which they have managed nicely|pg|| pc|dQ|nt|mrdct: true|pg|| nt|brolucius: Fine effort to reach 5D. I wouldn't have fancied 3NT.|pg|| pc|h2|nt|cherilou: This is a new partnership, I believe. Perhaps they played together years agp|pg|| nt|ritong: dutch touch, i told you :)|pg|| pc|c4|pg|| nt|jtr: passive i guess Declarer may need to guess @sJ|pg|| nt|nils123: must be much more chance finding pd with something i @d|pg|| nt|murad: that should do it|pg|| nt|ritong: okay folks have fun :)|pg|| pc|s9|nt|mcphee: and nice that Hanhon is not able to get @D wrong|pg|| pc|sT|nt|dburn: They played together for years, years ago :)|pg|| nt|yeshoney: south might try C as the only hope to beat, but north cant have A@C|pg|| nt|ritong: we have a small problem with players names here...|pg|| nt|dburn: Well, the Dutch will certainly hope so - and perhaps so will the neutrals, who would like to see a close match|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|sA|pg|| nt|jtr: would have been better if they could organise North to win the fourth heart|pg|| nt|nils123: but u loose tempo, if pd holds Kxx in club?|pg|| pc|hA|nt|rv: English may have peaked too early in this tourney, they were undefeated in the entire round robin but have not won a single set in the pre-QFs|pg|| nt|eggy: Good afternoon - Being 33 down, England have brought in some ringers|pg|| nt|mrdct: 9 trick now it seems|pg|| pc|h6|nt|cherilou: EW didn't get to 4@H at other table--maybe NS didn't push them there|pg|| pc|c9|nt|offthebend: How about doubling 3C with N and then reverting to some no. of spades.3S by itself doesn,t say anything opposite a 3rd hand opening|pg|| nt|stewball: to the extent there was misjudgement,it was Verhees in my view|pg|| pc|h9|pg|| nt|nils123: sell, a big gain for ireland anyway|pg|| nt|jtr: you asked me for a line Nils not a justification:-)|pg|| nt|nils123: hehe, true, u did ur best... lol|pg|| nt|ahh: lead now 51|pg|| mc|9|nt|kareno: That round robin result was impressive.|pg|| pg|| qx|o3|st||md|1SJ87532HJDK7CKJ64,SQ64HQ9832D4C9853,SKHAKT64DT652CAQ7,SAT9H75DAQJ983CT2|sv|e|mb|p|nt|josj: that does not qualify for a Junior any more...|pg|| nt|szalay: Honti is 44, Szilagyi is really old: 48:-)|pg|| nt|panja: NS overevaluated their sracthcy hands in this one|pg|| mb|p|nt|gal: another too good hanf for a weak two|pg|| mb|1C|an|prec|nt|josj: lol|pg|| mb|2C|an|di or majors|nt|panja: if South responds with a positive bid, they will end up in a game here too|pg|| nt|gal: 2C : diamonds or majors|pg|| mb|d|nt|szalay: they r plyaing Rubensohl here|pg|| nt|jtr: West will hazard a guess as to which:-)|pg|| nt|gal: but this hand is GF |pg|| mb|2D|nt|szalay: but DBL is better: possible penalty|pg|| nt|panja: West bids his worst of the three suits after such A OR B bids|pg|| mb|2H|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|nt|gal: dbl was art GF and the rest is natural|pg|| nt|panja: South has done well not to bid 2@S first time|pg|| nt|josj: maybe GF but no game on|pg|| mb|3H|mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|nt|panja: oh, thx szalay, in fact, 2@S would have been the weaker variety|pg|| mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|jtr: @d A would be best|pg|| nt|gal: A of diamonds is a good choice with the SA in hand|pg|| nt|panja: the @DQ OR @DJ lead will be bad for E, A or small will work better|pg|| pc|dJ|nt|jtr: No case for anything other than the A really|pg|| nt|panja: but since the Nt came from North hand...............|pg|| nt|szalay: honour is ok as well: 2@D and 3@S for them....but with sure entry A is the suggested card, I agree|pg|| nt|josj: this lead saves an undertrick, but it should still go down|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d4|nt|jtr: East must be careful with discards|pg|| pc|d2|pg|| nt|jtr: needs to throw @ds|pg|| nt|jtr: How do E/W signal?|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h3|pc|h4|pc|h5|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s6|pc|sK|pc|sA|pg|| nt|szalay: nice try:-)|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d7|nt|jtr: reverse by the look of it|pg|| pc|c9|pc|d6|pg|| nt|jtr: @c9 should tell the story|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|s3|pc|c8|pc|d5|pg|| pc|sT|nt|josj: and it did|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s4|pc|h6|pg|| pc|s9|pc|sJ|pc|sQ|mc|8|pg|| qx|c3|st||md|1SJ87532HJDK7CKJ64,SQ64HQ9832D4C9853,SKHAKT64DT652CAQ7,SAT9H75DAQJ983CT2|sv|e|nt|dburn: and another one on board 2 - but this one looks relatively dull|pg|| nt|lethal666: Hi All|pg|| nt|fluffy: hi all|pg|| nt|rv: Hi all|pg|| nt|lethal666: Bad luck on the cricket RV|pg|| nt|rv: yes, the manner of the loss hurt a lot-:)|pg|| nt|rv: I feel England still believe they can win this, though need a few IMPs quickly-:)|pg|| nt|jtr: only 1 imp lost We can soon afford it i hope|pg|| nt|udo: italy made 4@H here , after the lead he placed the spade honours to EAst , and AK clubs to West|pg|| nt|offthebend: Nicely done|pg|| nt|brolucius: +400 beats par, as I see it. Well bid!|pg|| nt|eggy: that's better|pg|| nt|mthiele: well with this vulnarabilty it showes a descent hand|pg|| nt|brolucius: A flat board, as predicted|pg|| mb|p|nt|vugraph197: HI ALL|pg|| nt|fluffy: ok we are on finally :)|pg|| nt|rv: Hi Marcin|pg|| nt|fluffy: hey marcin|pg|| nt|lethal666: We resume with Japan leading Egypt 51 to 36, with a lot of exiting bridge to come|pg|| nt|inquiry: NS 1@C is unbalanced 17+ so auction will be differnet on teh two tables.....|pg|| nt|cascade: yes this hand would be much easier after a natural 1@c opening - it falls into a little hole in the Precision system where East cannot make a natural response|pg|| mb|p|nt|cherilou: another comfortable 3NT|pg|| nt|lethal666: hi|pg|| nt|rv: Teramato-Takana play a Std American, 2/1 GF style|pg|| nt|mcphee: we are seeing some wild hands to start|pg|| nt|nils123: so 3s making for ireland, another nice result|pg|| nt|thor17: another solid result for ireland in open|pg|| nt|nils123: 4@h almost make .....|pg|| nt|roghog: 5 card majors|pg|| nt|sommer: yes, with AK in @C's and @SKQ, he would definately|pg|| nt|udo: China made 3 NT , laydown with blocking @C ´s|pg|| nt|eggy: or the team names|pg|| nt|ritong: hello and welcome all :-) your commentators will be steve eginton and david burn from england |pg|| nt|dburn: Indeed - I don't quite understand the score|pg|| nt|Vugraph2: We have to restart once again|pg|| nt|mrdct: duboin also draining some mental energy from schollaar in the 4 card ending|pg|| mb|1H|nt|yeshoney: very |pg|| nt|jbgood: closed room result sh be copied here|pg|| nt|eggy: got a whole one on board 1|pg|| nt|mrdct: i would expect 3NT or 5@D to be made int he other room|pg|| nt|eggy: Somethings still wrong with the players names I think|pg|| nt|lrargerich: really strange they didn't save NV vrs V in the open room|pg|| mb|2D|nt|jbgood: 1@d may contain a hand with 4 of a major and 3-3-3 distribution - that is the reason for the odd diamond bid|pg|| nt|fluffy: you can check about convention cards at www.bridgebase.com/istanbul|pg|| nt|lethal666: This double will help e-w if they get to 3nt|pg|| nt|fluffy: nadeem-heshmat also play a 5c major natural system|pg|| nt|kareno: The Hacketts can certainly create some action.. has to be positive action at this point, however, with the helpful lead that Pakistan have.|pg|| nt|roghog: anyone bid on Mac the cat's hand?|pg|| nt|brolucius: 2D is 10-13|pg|| nt|cascade: 2NT is unusual showing the lower two unbid suits - @cs and @hs here|pg|| mb|2S|nt|gcohler: possible big gain here|pg|| nt|dburn: Well, 1@h doubled is an alternative to 3NT|pg|| nt|cherilou: uh oh could go for 800 in 1@HX|pg|| nt|dburn: and if double promises a super-strong no trump, North might well pass it|pg|| nt|dburn: although East might then think better of the whole business and run to 2@d|pg|| nt|lethal666: if they now decide to play hearts for 4-1|pg|| nt|nils123: need club lead for defeating|pg|| nt|lrargerich: Not me|pg|| nt|stewball: 4@s making in the other room..so Dutch misjudged both rooms|pg|| nt|dburn: The Italians in the other room were allowed to play a peaceful 4@s, and suddenly have opened up a 30 IMP gap|pg|| nt|mthiele: well verhees probably thought jansma would have 1 diamond, or jansma would have no interrest to go to 5@s|pg|| mb|p|nt|jtr: yes North might have done more |pg|| nt|jtr: 2NT would seem sensible as two-way|pg|| nt|nils123: 3h seems normal now|pg|| nt|thor17: will likely bid 3H|pg|| nt|timb: excellent auction to 6@S on previous board in the open room|pg|| mb|3N|nt|rv: Sameer and Said also play a similar system|pg|| nt|eggy: welcome back everyone|pg|| nt|brolucius: West's bid is presumably a typo|pg|| nt|pyg: in open room , North overcalled( same opening) and made so things easier for EW to find @s contract and slam|pg|| mb|p|nt|cherilou: some play X as support even over @D's but not the case here--feels like it shows GOOD hand|pg|| nt|dburn: But North really had neither the heart length nor the heart pips to take her chances against 1@h|pg|| nt|gcohler: if it indeed showed big hand then north should have passed|pg|| nt|dburn: Well, Notth might not have diamonds - support doubles to locate 3-3 fits are probably not what Rodwell had in mind when he devised them :)|pg|| nt|cherilou: I'm surprised N didn't, as you can see from prior board she's not timid. Willing to take chances. At this color sometimes a Bonaza|pg|| nt|curtis: The american women played their 2-2 spade fit after a multi auction today|pg|| nt|lrargerich: Maybe a dbl if feeling lucky|pg|| nt|sommer: odd contrackt, tho :)|pg|| nt|jbgood: this will NOT make:)|pg|| nt|ritong: gambler:)|pg|| nt|udo: wrong moment , for this bid, but 4 @H seems quite normal|pg|| nt|stewball: I agree...Khok needs to improve his dummy putting|pg|| nt|udo: flat board|pg|| nt|stewball: 4@h undoubled in the other room....|pg|| nt|timb: an easy 4@H here|pg|| mb|p|nt|copeyj: and the action is fit for the wild hands|pg|| nt|curtis: Guray......stop that|pg|| nt|mcphee: 196 toying with us again|pg|| nt|copeyj: although 5@H by Nystrom is a bit too wild.... Guray :)))|pg|| nt|rv: @h lead would have worked better here|pg|| nt|bbramley: that should have been scored as making 6|pg|| mb|p|nt|mcphee: making again?|pg|| nt|mcphee: looks like it|pg|| nt|mcphee: maybe not, some transport problems?|pg|| nt|copeyj: takes an unlikely spade lead to beat it maybe?|pg|| nt|curtis: Berheau knows he has a cheap save and no def to 5H|pg|| nt|murad: probably -2|pg|| nt|brolucius: Game was no certainty for North-South, so looks good for them|pg|| nt|copeyj: Yes transport problems and the 5-1 @D break make 3N awkward for NS|pg|| nt|murad: the outcome will depend on whether or not game (3NT) is bid and made in open room|pg|| nt|brolucius: South already knows North's shape|pg|| nt|offthebend: The self imposed pressure against the mighty !!|pg|| pc|dA|nt|stewball: russians did not open|pg|| nt|sommer: yes, so more likely 8 imps for Holland|pg|| nt|roghog: they have a special defence to phoney 1@c|pg|| nt|bbramley: 1@S = @H or 4@S + 5+m|pg|| nt|reisig: In the open room - East didn't know abt the double fit|pg|| nt|szalay: often pass is the best bid..especially V/NV|pg|| pc|d7|nt|dburn: and I guess South might also have had a 4-1-3-5 shape or the like to double 1@h|pg|| nt|gcohler: seems would bid a spade there i think x denies heart shortnees |pg|| nt|cherilou: If unbalanced seems like 1@S|pg|| nt|gcohler: seems like x says i was going to jump to 2nt but cant now|pg|| nt|dburn: Well, Nunes was credited with only 11 tricks, so at the moment it appears to be 1 IMP to the Netherlands|pg|| nt|ritong: hi bart :)|pg|| nt|dburn: but I expect he really discarded a club, not a heart, on the fourth diamond|pg|| nt|mthiele: it's a better start then yesterday :)|pg|| nt|bbramley: hello, henri and everyone|pg|| nt|brolucius: Hi Bart|pg|| nt|brolucius: West may put declarer to a diamond guess here, before the clubs are running|pg|| pc|d4|nt|cherilou: I think that's standard USA expert agreement|pg|| nt|rv: x may help Takana to pick up the @hs|pg|| nt|lethal666: 4h is a resonable contract as well, lets see if e-w took notice of norths actions|pg|| nt|fluffy: @cQ lead and contract may make|pg|| nt|eggy: this is Ok i think|pg|| nt|timb: you can even wander to the five level|pg|| nt|offthebend: I really wonder why people simply can not overcall 2H and get to 4h in 2-sec|pg|| nt|brolucius: Zhuang was good for a raise to 4H and conveyed this with 4D |pg|| nt|mthiele: although the dutch recovered quite well from losing 34 imps on 3 boards|pg|| nt|mthiele: hi|pg|| pc|d2|pg|| nt|jtr: did they make it?|pg|| nt|nils123: now peter also can guess spades, has a little clue|pg|| nt|udo: oh, oversaw the X:))))) , i get seldom doubled , so....:))|pg|| nt|mrdct: fantoni-nunes play 5-card majors with sound (14+) one-level openings, 10-13 unbalanced natural openings at the two-level and a 12-14 1NT opening|pg|| nt|brolucius: West looks too strong for 2H. Maybe 3H?|pg|| nt|mrdct: system cards: http://www.bridgebase.com/istanbul/|pg|| nt|murad: 3 NT bid in open room, difficult but makeable|pg|| nt|brolucius: He would not lead a doubleton without a trump|pg|| nt|szalay: will Mrs. D'Ovidio handle it?|pg|| pc|d9|nt|stewball: Rek is in damage control mode..we all know that sick feeling|pg|| nt|brolucius: Of course...|pg|| nt|roghog: short for holographic|pg|| nt|udo: will he make this, even with @H 4-1?|pg|| nt|bbramley: easier guess now|pg|| pc|dK|nt|dburn: I think so too - good job there wasn't an American pair North-South :)|pg|| nt|gcohler: unlees it was meant as penalty but then north might have taken a chance in 1 ht opposite a penalty x|pg|| nt|rv: Hacketts play 4 card major aggressive style-:)|pg|| nt|murad: good point by Brother Lucius|pg|| nt|lrargerich: I think Drijver had to bid 4@d over 3@s, suggesting a sacrifice if pd minor is diamonds|pg|| nt|offthebend: This has some defence potential on a S lead|pg|| nt|lrargerich: This is complex|pg|| nt|brolucius: Yes|pg|| pc|h3|nt|mcphee: that lead is not going to help|pg|| nt|curtis: The Irish have their Mojo working|pg|| nt|dburn: The Dutch may have played this from the wrong side - West's spade lead would beat the hand, East's would not|pg|| nt|dburn: but a club lead is also OK for the defence|pg|| pc|d5|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c3|nt|yeshoney: 11 tricks making|pg|| nt|ritong: sure:)|pg|| nt|brolucius: I call the convention 'typo'. Of course I was fully aware of it.|pg|| nt|offthebend: S would have been better .|pg|| pc|cQ|nt|rv: I suppose all of us will x with Nadim's hand though it may prove costly in this case|pg|| nt|mcphee: now @D before trump and he will make|pg|| pc|c2|pg|| nt|copeyj: 5@C-1 in the open room|pg|| nt|kareno: North needs to play on spades I think. |pg|| nt|timb: yes she will lead @HJ and run it if W plays low|pg|| pc|cA|pc|cT|nt|jbgood: Dutch overtrick imp|pg|| nt|brolucius: No point in West covering because his partner's @H7 denied an honour|pg|| nt|szalay: r u sure?:-)|pg|| pc|c6|nt|nils123: maybe not, when sees the doubelton in @d|pg|| nt|nils123: now needs to play for south to hold 6-4... not sure he does|pg|| nt|jtr: @c then 4th @d|pg|| pc|c5|pg|| nt|kareno: Now he'll have seven before the defense can get theirs.|pg|| nt|eggy: but with the spade blockage declarer could have got his tricks first|pg|| nt|jtr: for trump promotion|pg|| nt|bbramley: despite bad trump break, defense can do little to harm declarer|pg|| nt|timb: sure now|pg|| pc|c7|nt|lethal666: I'm not sure Aussie X's have infiltrated Egypt yet!|pg|| nt|jkotor: hello|pg|| nt|pyg: going down , |pg|| nt|szalay: no winning line |pg|| pc|h7|nt|curtis: I'll lay 2-1 he gets it|pg|| nt|roghog: this will make for +80, but Mac has 100 honours!|pg|| nt|mthiele: end of defens|pg|| nt|dburn: This is OK - the defence can cash hearts as soon as East wins a diamond|pg|| nt|offthebend: OK, well recovered.DA and 3Heart tricks in the bag now|pg|| pc|cJ|nt|rv: Takano has decided to play with apriori percentages|pg|| nt|lethal666: For those unaware of them, Courtney, Burgess & Marsden introduced them|pg|| nt|copeyj: should be another good gain for the Irish|pg|| nt|nils123: has a clue about norht not playing more d for sure|pg|| nt|nils123: if hold xx in spade would have a chance to play d for upppercut|pg|| nt|jtr: well if this is the position he should have.....|pg|| nt|jtr: exactly Nils|pg|| nt|nils123: not easy for norht with qxx to play for uppercut.. |pg|| nt|nils123: if pd dont have j u have blowed ur cover and told him where Q is|pg|| nt|jtr: yes it could just expose the trump position i agree|pg|| nt|nils123: now still chance for a misguess|pg|| nt|ahh: kind of groverner play does he play north for making poor play or not ?|pg|| nt|offthebend: 3H is mostly played these days as good suit Preempt - 3H otherwise is automatic|pg|| pc|c8|pg|| nt|murad: overcautious defense|pg|| pc|cK|nt|copeyj: 12 Imps?|pg|| nt|mcphee: I bet Hanlon was not too happy to hear 5@H|pg|| nt|udo: escapes -2 now, important trick|pg|| nt|sommer: 3 down and 8 imps|pg|| nt|stewball: its a natural response to dummy have 100 honours in our void|pg|| nt|udo: guess i need coffee:))))|pg|| nt|jbgood: The reason why the Russion in open room passed with the west hand i of course that 4 kings do not count for much in a republic|pg|| nt|ritong: heh|pg|| nt|roghog: typo, holo, what's the difference?|pg|| nt|dburn: Not really. End of declarer.|pg|| pc|c9|nt|kareno: 1c, 2h, 2s, 2d.|pg|| nt|eggy: ok - this line the same|pg|| nt|inquiry: NS may get too high after a precision 1@C in the other room|pg|| nt|stewball: better than OK:)|pg|| pc|d6|nt|fluffy: if @d wasn´t lead declarer could have succeded stablishing @c7 for @d discard|pg|| nt|curtis: never underestimate your opponent's stupidity|pg|| pc|h5|pg|| pc|hJ|nt|lethal666: X just shows any hand where you give partner permision to bid, could have no shape|pg|| nt|nils123: sometimes its easier for declaerer to see what opps should have played than the opps to do the play....|pg|| pc|h2|nt|dburn: Welcome back. The score you now see is, we believe, the correct one :)|pg|| nt|mthiele: correct, wd|pg|| pc|hA|nt|rv: Kurshid Hadi is president of Pakistan bridge federation in addition to being a very good player|pg|| nt|mthiele: allways hard to get a nineth trick in this contract|pg|| nt|stewball: perhaps the @hJ made this easier?|pg|| nt|szalay: North and South weren't same wave about mening of 4@H|pg|| pc|s9|pg|| pc|hK|nt|jkotor: i will try to do some comment in this room |pg|| pc|sT|pc|s2|pc|h8|pg|| nt|szalay: I prefer South's point: bid 3@D first with really good hands|pg|| mc|7|nt|lrargerich: Unless 1@c-1@d;1@h is natural|pg|| pg|| qx|o4|st||md|2ST53HKQJ9D954C542,SQ874HT65DJ76CAK9,SAKJ6H873DKQCQ876,S92HA42DAT832CJT3|sv|b|nt|jtr: cashing winners might have given East more of a problem|pg|| mb|p|nt|jtr: a chance for the juniors here|pg|| nt|jtr: 1Nt was made in the other room|pg|| mb|1N|an|13 16 no |mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d2|nt|jtr: declarer took 2 @hs then ran the @s10 not covered|pg|| pc|d4|pc|dJ|pc|dK|pg|| pc|h8|pc|h2|pc|hK|pc|h5|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h6|pc|h7|pc|h4|pg|| pc|sT|nt|jtr: and here.....|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|sA|pc|s2|pg|| nt|jtr: it was|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s9|pc|s3|pc|s4|pg|| nt|szalay: wd, 5 IMPs back|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|cJ|pc|s5|pc|s7|pg|| pc|h3|pc|hA|pc|h9|pc|hT|pg|| pc|cT|pc|c2|pc|cK|pc|c6|pg|| nt|szalay: funny aspect of the match: North was NPC of Juniors in Prague:-)|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|c4|st||md|2ST53HKQJ9D954C542,SQ874HT65DJ76CAK9,SAKJ6H873DKQCQ876,S92HA42DAT832CJT3|sv|b|nt|lethal666: yes|pg|| nt|copeyj: Just the 29 IMPS exchanged on the first 3 boards then|pg|| nt|mcphee: gee, McGann only get long @H|pg|| nt|rv: David what did the team have for breakfast today?-:)|pg|| nt|dburn: Jason doesn't do breakfast.|pg|| nt|stewball: i dont think the opening is auto|pg|| nt|stewball: maybe in a weak NT structure|pg|| nt|sommer: very weak|pg|| nt|ritong: welcome all :) your commentators will be steve eginton & david burn from england, and jakub kotorowicz from poland.|pg|| nt|reisig: 33 IMPs in 3 boards!!|pg|| nt|stewball: hey rich,welcome|pg|| nt|lrargerich: timeout!|pg|| nt|szalay: do u agree?|pg|| mb|p|nt|ahh: should be routine game here|pg|| nt|nils123: seems like a normal 4s, if not east pree u out of it|pg|| nt|mthiele: aarrgh !!|pg|| nt|reisig: hi hi :)|pg|| mb|1C|nt|curtis: McGann averaging 7@H's per deal|pg|| nt|jtr: yes nice:-)|pg|| nt|stewball: EOK weak:)|pg|| nt|mrdct: EW may have modified their overcalling structure to counter NS' unusual methods|pg|| nt|dburn: At the other table, North was declarer and East led a spade - and that was that|pg|| mb|p|nt|copeyj: lol|pg|| nt|sommer: 10ish :)|pg|| nt|dburn: The English pair in this room use five-card majors, strong no trump. The Russians use a form of Polish club.|pg|| nt|brolucius: South does not want to bid hearts and have a heart lead against a possible spade contract by West.|pg|| mb|1H|nt|rv: @c partial for EW here|pg|| nt|lethal666: 5c would be a good spot to reach, except for the bad trump division|pg|| nt|kareno: A diamond slam will fetch on this board. (or notrumps for the greedy).|pg|| nt|udo: Other table 2 -1 , so 5 imps italy|pg|| nt|dburn: 2@c is natural, limited with clubs and a major or just clubs|pg|| nt|offthebend: Italy on a roll - 3 double digits already in the kitty|pg|| nt|cascade: maybe the strength of 2NT was where they didnt agree|pg|| mb|p|nt|lethal666: but 4c is relativly easy|pg|| nt|copeyj: 6@H a lucky make|pg|| nt|dburn: Gold, on the other hand, eats enough for himself and Jason (and Townsend)|pg|| nt|thor17: A flat board here...best hope for Sweden 5Hx 500|pg|| nt|nils123: 5h is a good save|pg|| nt|brolucius: I stand corrected|pg|| nt|udo: 2@H -1|pg|| nt|roghog: we've seen holo, but it could have been worse. there's also bolo and holo-bolo (thx to Dutch fan)|pg|| mb|1N|an|15-17|nt|rv: Hesh may pass this 1n|pg|| nt|fluffy: 1NT showing 4+@s|pg|| nt|lethal666: yes, hes out of things to bid|pg|| nt|rv: 1n is forcing only from an unpassed hand|pg|| nt|curtis: I think the auction 1H-1S is like roman 1 or 7|pg|| nt|mcphee: very lucky, |pg|| nt|thor17: sorry 800:)|pg|| nt|mthiele: |pg|| nt|dburn: 2@d is not what Fantoni wanted Nunes to bid|pg|| nt|offthebend: So sorry Mark|pg|| mb|p|nt|dburn: We've been in worse slams than 6@h, though we've also been in better ones|pg|| nt|mcphee: if they bid this they are indeed carrying 4 leaf clover|pg|| nt|copeyj: You'd want to be in it Bob..... if you needed 40 IMPS in 4 boards in a knockout stage!|pg|| nt|nils123: i guess nystrřm pass hoping for down wiht stiff club|pg|| nt|jtr: no one can bid 5@h though|pg|| nt|mrdct: card are well placed for EW here|pg|| mb|p|nt|gcohler: 6nt from south can make but unlikely to go right|pg|| nt|bbramley: other table made 2@H from the normal side with a @D lead|pg|| nt|mthiele: well maybe we get a few points here :)|pg|| nt|mthiele: we have to stay optimistic :)|pg|| nt|offthebend: I am sure it is a misclick|pg|| nt|mthiele: 2@c opening working really well here for NS|pg|| nt|Zmud99: im sure its not :)|pg|| nt|offthebend: I am sorry - I thought the opening was 1C!!|pg|| nt|mthiele: 2@c opening normally a weakness in this system, but here deadly, perhaps fantoni should have better overcalled 2NT|pg|| mb|p|nt|dburn: Maybe 6NT is a better contract|pg|| nt|gcohler: club leads beats all slams from north|pg|| nt|rv: this contract is likely to go down a trick|pg|| nt|rv: 3@d, 2@h and 2@cs for defense|pg|| nt|jtr: except South maybe|pg|| nt|nils123: true :) hehe|pg|| nt|ahh: just what ireland need 12 flat boards|pg|| nt|dburn: 1NT is 15-17, and North has chosen not to super-accept a transfer to spades|pg|| nt|murad: still valid point tho|pg|| nt|murad: EW have not yet discovered spades|pg|| nt|cascade: certainly 3@d then 4@H is a better hand|pg|| pc|d3|nt|gcohler: maybe not still can come down to stiff k and kj and endplay |pg|| nt|dburn: Is that right? @cA, nine rounds of majors - what are West's last three cards?|pg|| nt|yeshoney: i dont know why 4@C bid. if anyone does, pls enlighten me|pg|| nt|curtis: A nice club to have in your bag on this one - Forcing Jump rebid|pg|| nt|dburn: wisely, as it transpires, because there is no game in the hand|pg|| nt|eggy: system cards can be found on www.bridgebase.com/istanbul|pg|| nt|udo: 3 SA is good for EW , |pg|| nt|roghog: should have been playing reverse bolo, then |pg|| nt|dburn: 1NT is ostensibly 15-17, but some 14-counts are permitted|pg|| nt|brolucius: Once again, Restricted Choice at work in the heart suit. Declarer will not follow it with the spades bare.|pg|| nt|mthiele: only with solid 5 minor|pg|| nt|bbramley: most 14's as far as I can tell|pg|| nt|dburn: and this, with spades 4-4, is another quiet board|pg|| nt|mthiele: they give extra hcp for that|pg|| pc|d4|nt|dburn: There are some chances for a grand slam, but no straightforward line will work|pg|| nt|sommer: but overtricks here|pg|| nt|jbgood: I would not hesitate to open showing a 12-14 NT|pg|| nt|jbgood: open 1 @d|pg|| nt|jbgood: last brd:)|pg|| nt|sommer: no, nor wd I, but my partner doesn't expect more :)|pg|| nt|brolucius: NT played the right way round.|pg|| nt|offthebend: Again the transfer sequence to get the right side declaration -well done|pg|| nt|vugraph811: dia;|pg|| nt|Zmud99: 2@S show @D..|pg|| nt|dburn: Well, the convention card says (14)15-17, so they only open 14 counts if they have brackets around them|pg|| pc|dJ|nt|mcphee: this is trouble now|pg|| nt|kareno: 3nt was dogging it, I think, with a fine hand including the diamond king. |pg|| nt|rv: atleast a quant action from Shoair?|pg|| nt|mrdct: 1@Hx may go for 500|pg|| nt|udo: 2 SA now or pass ?|pg|| nt|mrdct: i dont think pass is an option|pg|| nt|dburn: That would not have played especially well either.|pg|| nt|bbramley: right play in @Ds is king first, in case 5-0|pg|| pc|dQ|pg|| nt|gcohler: in fact dbl might have given it away|pg|| nt|mcphee: 5@S might just fail|pg|| nt|curtis: stop in 5 if RKC. no problem|pg|| nt|copeyj: yes 5@H safe|pg|| nt|copeyj: or even 5@S|pg|| nt|dburn: However, 3NT is cold :)|pg|| nt|curtis: The clock keeps ticking down on the Swedes|pg|| nt|szalay: these kinda boards are 'leaders dream'|pg|| pc|h3|nt|mcphee: trump lead ?|pg|| nt|lrargerich: Quite boring 3NT this one|pg|| nt|jbgood: hehe|pg|| nt|mrdct: it's often a good idea to get the overcaller to be on lead|pg|| nt|mthiele: :)|pg|| nt|cascade: 3NT is brave here with a stiff heart|pg|| nt|pyg: my opnion is that 3@h by South would have been better: her 4@h bid needed one card more or 5 cards @h|pg|| pc|h4|nt|curtis: but 5S is not|pg|| nt|inquiry: seems a flat hand|pg|| nt|roghog: time for a cup of tea! |pg|| pc|hK|nt|kareno: This could be the kind of big swing England needs at this moment.|pg|| nt|udo: agree povl:)|pg|| nt|ritong: interesting shot by khok|pg|| nt|udo: for interested specs, Italy leeds 15:0 vs. China so far|pg|| nt|brolucius: Well, impressive that they stopped in 4@D after that start. 5@D would have been doubled.|pg|| nt|murad: there are 4 obvious losers|pg|| pc|h5|pg|| nt|nils123: yep, but have seen these boys in action before... 10 imp a board is no problem|pg|| pc|hQ|nt|curtis: still fine , scuse me|pg|| nt|lrargerich: Maybe 2NT is artificial over 2@c for them|pg|| pc|h6|nt|jbgood: problem is that you need the @c ace to take nine major tricks when hearts do nat brake - so I agree on south being declarer - then 6 makes|pg|| nt|dburn: However, you can't actually run the majors without taking out North's club entry, so that...|pg|| nt|copeyj: trump lead... pull trumps and play AK @Ds and then a club to table?|pg|| nt|mcphee: well|pg|| nt|bbramley: when opponents' high cards are marked you can be even more aggressive than usual|pg|| nt|mrdct: identical auction in the open room|pg|| nt|brolucius: Except when an opponent has indicated a long suit and will have the entries with it.|pg|| nt|szalay: disagree: 3@H is natural, so quite often u can find yourself in 4-2 supermoysian game|pg|| pc|h7|nt|cherilou: There card doesn't suggest anything other than a splinter with @H support for 4@C|pg|| nt|dburn: Now, however...|pg|| nt|jbgood: not easy to find the winning line |pg|| nt|dburn: Most unusual hand - North has, in effect, a two-way finesse against an ace :)|pg|| nt|yeshoney: still a guess to make|pg|| nt|gcohler: club lead was right cant get to hand to pull tump |pg|| nt|jbgood: easy only for us who see all the cards:)|pg|| nt|rv: playing sayc helps in this deal, 2@c by Takano would have helped Japs to reach @c partial|pg|| nt|vugraph197: there is the situation , false renonse was played by nadim|pg|| nt|sommer: depends on agrrements, and many players today open very light by agreement|pg|| pc|h2|pg|| pc|sT|nt|lethal666: ?|pg|| nt|mcphee: might have had that entry dislodged|pg|| nt|mthiele: down 3 probably|pg|| pc|s4|nt|dburn: If East has the ace of diamonds, you simply lead to the king - if West has it, you play for the squeeze|pg|| nt|dburn: It could be. But if they overstretch to the seven level, declarer will have to guess very well...|pg|| nt|kareno: I'd temporize with 3@d by south after 3@c|pg|| nt|rv: what would the panel bid on 3@c? |pg|| nt|dburn: You might bid a natural 4NT, I guess|pg|| nt|kareno: Or, as I said, 3@d temporizing.|pg|| nt|ritong: "pls cash ur @h & lead for me, dude"..|pg|| nt|reisig: 1NT (NS) other room|pg|| pc|s6|nt|fluffy: renonse= revoke I think|pg|| nt|vugraph197: he played 2h instead of qc|pg|| nt|fluffy: but he discovered in time|pg|| nt|lethal666: oh was it established?|pg|| nt|offthebend: 2NT can really go for a full toss-no stoppers and no tricks|pg|| nt|dburn: Most of Jansma's 14 counts have brackets around them, though. Some of Verhees's may not|pg|| pc|s2|pg|| nt|rv: yes quantitative 4n came to my bid, 3@d could give more room|pg|| nt|dburn: I don't know why Nunes didn't cover @s8|pg|| pc|s3|nt|lethal666: ok np|pg|| nt|curtis: kind of double dummy, isn't it Simon?|pg|| nt|mcphee: but now all is sweet|pg|| nt|lrargerich: That's so english :-)|pg|| nt|offthebend: No , he could not have bid 2NT on Qx|pg|| nt|dburn: and, since England attempted one, Russia will pick up five or six IMPs here|pg|| pc|s8|nt|jbgood: but why not lead your prd's suit?|pg|| nt|eggy: You can see S wanted to protect his KJs, but I agree with Karen 3N could be much worse|pg|| nt|stewball: this line looks to guarantee 7th trick |pg|| nt|ritong: nice play|pg|| nt|udo: yes, very nice, even 8 now possible in the end|pg|| nt|murad: should play on hearts now after discovering the trump break|pg|| pc|sJ|nt|ahh: some will be in out column too|pg|| nt|nils123: anyone know who meets who next round?|pg|| pc|s9|pg|| nt|gcohler: club lead breaks up the squeeze|pg|| nt|sommer: yes, and he still has chances for the 8th trick|pg|| pc|sA|nt|brolucius: Amazing that an 18-call auction should be identical. |pg|| nt|mrdct: south wont have fun finding discards as EW cash the minor suit winners|pg|| pc|cT|nt|dburn: One thing is for certain - if this makes, Jill Meyers won't bother doubling any more cue bids for a while|pg|| nt|rv: penalty card, but no revoke is it?|pg|| nt|roghog: what would you have, then, Luis?|pg|| nt|lrargerich: Coke :-)|pg|| nt|sommer: :)|pg|| nt|ritong: gambling some, @s AK & @s|pg|| nt|ritong: + right @d guess|pg|| nt|sommer: 3 times @S and a good guess gives 9!|pg|| pc|s5|nt|fluffy: anyway playing sayc... shouldn´t you bid 1@h-1@s?|pg|| nt|eggy: I think 3@D is easily best|pg|| pc|s7|pg|| nt|lethal666: just pc|pg|| nt|lrargerich: Too early for tea here|pg|| nt|roghog: the bubbles have a strange effect on me...|pg|| nt|lrargerich: I won't ask|pg|| pc|sK|nt|thor17: true..nothing good has happened for them...but I'm sure they don't know how bad it is|pg|| pc|c3|nt|sommer: hehe|pg|| nt|stewball: an imp hangs in the balance|pg|| nt|cascade: too many nice things on this hand for declarer|pg|| pc|d5|nt|offthebend: Polish play 3S as desire to play 3N - must be a similar approach|pg|| nt|mrdct: i've been playing transfer responses in competion for a little while now and they do work quite well|pg|| pc|sQ|pg|| nt|lethal666: I would think so, then 1nt, 2c|pg|| nt|kareno: 3N allows partner to pass and you know you are in slam zone with the jump-shift.|pg|| nt|pyg: yes no bad news|pg|| nt|cascade: the defense had no chance against this distribution|pg|| nt|cascade: would anyone have bid differently over 3@s with Chemla's cards|pg|| nt|szalay: no|pg|| pc|h8|nt|murad: @SA now|pg|| nt|bbramley: north has 4th club, so south should be ok|pg|| pc|hA|nt|mcphee: all this to lose an imp|pg|| nt|sommer: 2 imps|pg|| pc|h9|pc|hT|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|c4|nt|cherilou: I think they play the X here asks for higher ranking suit led-that's why Randi led a @S|pg|| nt|lethal666: 2s, 3c|pg|| nt|fluffy: actually the ssytem was gonna let them find @c fit if Teramoto didn´t pass 1NT.... 1@h-1NT-2@c (best minor)-3@c|pg|| nt|copeyj: Curtis I play double dummy much better than anything else :)|pg|| nt|mcphee: see Curits,,,,,,,,,Simon says|pg|| nt|copeyj: .|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c7|pg|| pc|d6|nt|reisig: down 4|pg|| mc|7|nt|gcohler: if 4 cl was a splinter |pg|| nt|mrdct: new leader!|pg|| nt|brolucius: Another very competent effort by the Chinese. No wonder they racked up so many big scores.|pg|| nt|brolucius: 3NT three down when the wrong hand played it, in the other room.|pg|| pg|| qx|o5|st||md|3ST74HJ863D74CJ653,S5HK52DA986532C82,SAJ63HQT97DKTCK97,SKQ982HA4DQJCAQT4|sv|n|mb|1N|mb|d|mb|2C|nt|szalay: 1 NT was 13-15 here|pg|| nt|jtr: looks like they may escape|pg|| nt|gal: 2c: clubs and another|pg|| mb|2D|nt|szalay: 2@C: DONT: @C and other|pg|| mb|p|nt|jtr: but 3Nt makes for E/W|pg|| nt|szalay: do u agree 2@D? I think its closer to INV, 3@D|pg|| mb|2S|nt|jtr: yes i prefer 3@d also|pg|| mb|p|nt|josj: definitely|pg|| mb|3D|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|josj: but all is well now|pg|| pc|h3|nt|jtr: generally a simple bid shows a more limited hand|pg|| nt|josj: except the auction itself|pg|| pc|h2|pc|hQ|pc|hA|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d4|nt|josj: every overtrick saves a further imp now|pg|| pc|d2|pc|dK|pg|| nt|szalay: and if u dont know: HERE all IMPs count...|pg|| pc|hT|pc|h4|pc|h6|nt|jtr: he is worried about the @ds breaking|pg|| nt|szalay: the distribution of prize-pool up to IMP-difference|pg|| pc|h5|pg|| nt|josj: aha, now I understand :-))|pg|| pc|h9|pc|s2|pc|h8|nt|szalay: it was designed by an anonymus player:-)|pg|| pc|hK|pg|| pc|dA|pc|dT|pc|dJ|pc|d7|pg|| nt|josj: would be interesting to play a match in which the imps you lose don't count|pg|| pc|d9|pc|s3|pc|s8|nt|gal: now thre is a squeeze for the rest of the tricks|pg|| pc|s7|pg|| pc|d8|pc|s6|pc|s9|pc|s4|pg|| pc|d6|nt|jtr: cant South guard the @cs|pg|| pc|h7|pc|c4|nt|gal: sure sorry|pg|| pc|sT|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|c5|st||md|3ST74HJ863D74CJ653,S5HK52DA986532C82,SAJ63HQT97DKTCK97,SKQ982HA4DQJCAQT4|sv|n|nt|rv: as expected brd 19, 12 IMPs to Egypt and lead has changed hands|pg|| nt|copeyj: What has happened? McGann only has doubleton @H|pg|| nt|mcphee: no doubt Mcgann is wondering where his @H went|pg|| nt|dburn: And thirteen difficult ones. Still, as you say, a chance for England|pg|| nt|rv: and all the results from http://www.worldbridge.org/tourn/Istanbul.04/Results.htm|pg|| nt|curtis: Fedin-Lindkvist were my Nationals team for 2 years, so I can vouch for their scoring potential|pg|| nt|jtr: yes Ireland play Holland or Germany Assuming they win|pg|| nt|jkotor: i should be usefull with "polish @c"|pg|| nt|dburn: Six, in fact, so Russia leads by 35. There are 12 boards remaining in this segment, and a further 32 thereafter.|pg|| nt|mrdct: the netherlands has one of the biggest bridge populations in the world|pg|| nt|pyg: Chemla had very poor @s suit, not enough to bid 4@s|pg|| nt|timb: no - 3NT was right. but then I play the raise of 1NT to 2NT as forcing in standard|pg|| nt|pyg: it was a tough bid, anyway|pg|| nt|szalay: can u find 9th trick for declarer without defence's help:|pg|| nt|szalay: ?|pg|| nt|szalay: this board, of course|pg|| nt|szalay: but defence is difficult: it needs to attack @Ds, not @ss|pg|| nt|timb: 5@C by West is interesting too|pg|| mb|1N|nt|curtis: Simon, If you don't end your comments with "ay?" McPhee might not understand you|pg|| nt|roghog: Dutch fans have particular faith in Bas Drijver|pg|| nt|dburn: and the Netherlands are on the scoreboard|pg|| nt|timb: Duck the spade lead, win the next spade and ruff a spade|pg|| nt|szalay: it can be made with avoidance play, thx to 4-0 trump break|pg|| mb|d|nt|cherilou: No, Jill could play A |pg|| nt|ritong: extremely slammy now|pg|| nt|sommer: so Russia on the scoreboard|pg|| nt|mrdct: hail to the Bas Drijver|pg|| mb|p!|nt|dburn: And then?|pg|| nt|rv: I expect this match to be close till the end between 2 evenly matched teams-:)|pg|| nt|lethal666: They recieved the Qc ;ead, so they didnt need the hearts to take 6 tricks|pg|| nt|copeyj: Ah the Canadian ay, AY?|pg|| nt|mcphee: you got it|pg|| nt|curtis: Well done, ay?|pg|| nt|copeyj: Lived in Montreal for 6 months, came back adding EY myself....|pg|| nt|offthebend: Can not write off Chinese these days in any field - a very committed and desciplined and determined lot|pg|| nt|dburn: The semi-finals in the Open and Women's series will end tonight, but the losers will play a short match for the bronze medal tomorrow.|pg|| nt|mrdct: (as bart simpson would say)|pg|| mb|p|nt|kareno: Here's a friendly hand. 3NT will make with no real chance for a swing.|pg|| nt|udo: grand slam!|pg|| mb|r!|nt|jtr: Well their scoring potential has been Irish so far:-)|pg|| nt|nils123: so again sweeden play 1nt in both rooms|pg|| nt|nils123: strange west ddint try stayman?|pg|| nt|ritong: 13 on top|pg|| nt|eggy: can't understand why they do that David|pg|| nt|offthebend: Cheer up Mark.You are on board|pg|| nt|mthiele: nice southhand|pg|| nt|mthiele: hiha!|pg|| mb|p|nt|cherilou: exit with @D 10 to partners Q|pg|| nt|dburn: A diamond would be ruffed by declarer, setting up the long card in dummy|pg|| nt|fluffy: on the other tble against the previous 4@h, west with @hAKQxxx didn´t wanna plass 1@s by south, that helped to remain east @c suit unncovered, and the @cQ lead let the contract ...|pg|| nt|fluffy: make|pg|| nt|nils123: 2s making if no @h ruff|pg|| nt|curtis: Hoping for an Irish indiscretion|pg|| nt|ahh: @D switch will kill this |pg|| nt|nils123: yes, likely to go down 1, gaining 40 = 1 imp|pg|| nt|jtr: he was facing a 10-12 NT Why should he bid?|pg|| nt|roghog: 5@c OK. need to avoid 3NT|pg|| nt|timb: South is going to be thrilled here to show his "major" suit|pg|| nt|szalay: why not 3@S?|pg|| mb|2C!|nt|sommer: yes, and 7@H is reachable|pg|| nt|ritong: make it no trump|pg|| nt|brolucius: East's pass forcing after strong response|pg|| nt|bbramley: 7-1 split convenient for declarer|pg|| nt|roghog: apparently Bas has been feeling off-colour, but playing excellently|pg|| nt|udo: @D 7:1 will be good news for Duboin :)|pg|| nt|mrdct: very convenient|pg|| nt|mrdct: but not completely unexpected with the @S prempt on his right|pg|| mb|p|nt|dburn: Declarer had pitched a diamond on the third spade|pg|| nt|yeshoney: they make weaker neg. X's than i do|pg|| nt|cherilou: Wasn't it a 4 card ending|pg|| nt|copeyj: 3N looks like a sensible spot. 9 top tricks available|pg|| nt|curtis: McGann takes the scientific approach. Same auction Lindkvist-Fredin will have ;)|pg|| nt|mcphee: they play the Irish @C|pg|| nt|sommer: 3@C, reask?|pg|| nt|ritong: one never knows:)|pg|| nt|dburn: Having a 100% record of losing bronze medal playoffs in Olympiads, neither can I :)|pg|| nt|brolucius: Did Gromov not see his God-given AK combination?|pg|| nt|murad: :-)))|pg|| nt|murad: should make now|pg|| nt|copeyj: Look on the positive side David. The @H lead is cutting down ruffing values. :)|pg|| nt|mthiele: i hope it was a greek gift of the dutchies|pg|| nt|stewball: mark are there any canape tendencies with this pair?|pg|| nt|lrargerich: only when they are hungry|pg|| nt|mthiele: only in a 1@d opening, opener may have 4@d 5@c|pg|| nt|reisig: LUIS!|pg|| mb|p|nt|jbgood: weak is an understatement|pg|| nt|lethal666: Yes both countrys contain 5 letters|pg|| nt|rv: even 4@h and 4@s will make, though inferior contracts|pg|| nt|nils123: most people like to play 4-4 fit major instead on 1nt? |pg|| nt|nils123: dont u bid stayman with both majors any strenght?|pg|| nt|jtr: and 2@d in a 3-2 fit otherwise?:-)|pg|| nt|nils123: no, 2h after 2d who weak both majors, std isnt it?|pg|| nt|thor17: sometimes weak NT preempts the offense as well as the defense|pg|| nt|curtis: I would throw in my two cents, but I'm having too much fun listening|pg|| nt|ahh: :)|pg|| nt|jtr: well he has enough to suggest 1NT might be ok hasn't he?|pg|| nt|jtr: chacun a son gout Nils:-)|pg|| nt|ahh: this style of play make sure no hand is ever thrown in|pg|| nt|nils123: im a simple man, always try for 2M :)|pg|| nt|murad: losing 2@C, 1@D and 2@H|pg|| nt|dburn: We suspect that the Netherlands have been credited with an IMP that does not belong to them|pg|| nt|szalay: Hamman-rule was broken|pg|| mb|d|nt|gcohler: 5|pg|| nt|yeshoney: 1nt is a comfortable spot were 3nt has a chance|pg|| nt|rv: 2@s showed limit raise or better in @h|pg|| nt|mcphee: similar to Polish @C|pg|| nt|inquiry: 5@C seems best..... I wonder if 2NT is artificial force here, can't be natural... with so much value.....|pg|| nt|sommer: no diff in imps, so 7@H is most likely|pg|| nt|ritong: some difference in danger, tho|pg|| nt|dburn: 2@c was forcing for one round (it would have been forcing to game without the overcall)|pg|| nt|brolucius: Declarer may play for K-x of hearts with E (not knowing he is safe anyway)|pg|| nt|udo: agree, seems the line that makes with @D 6-2|pg|| nt|reisig: maybe - they should have bid 4@d??|pg|| nt|udo: hm, West hopes to beat 3 SA |pg|| nt|roghog: the holo 3@h is a sort of Multi, ie. he is showing @h or @s (thx to spec)|pg|| nt|brolucius: Not attractive to sacrifice when you have singleton in partner's main suit|pg|| nt|offthebend: 6D makes if they bid it.Even 6C is OK on umpteen finesses and breaks|pg|| nt|mthiele: ssshht!|pg|| nt|dburn: so the score after four boards in this segment is 1-1, and the Italians lead by 38|pg|| nt|dburn: 2@c was clubs, 9-13 or so|pg|| mb|p|nt|ritong: ruffs occur|pg|| nt|offthebend: my hats off to them - not one known big name among them as yet but they will be there|pg|| nt|timb: and i think he's down one|pg|| mb|p|nt|yeshoney: where|pg|| nt|eggy: well it's a poor contract on a @D lead although making|pg|| nt|brolucius: Why do you think West bid just @S3, David?|pg|| nt|dburn: I don't know. It does seem odd.|pg|| mb|2H|nt|cherilou: If S had passed over 1@D wouldn't you bid 1@H|pg|| nt|fluffy: defence needs a @c ruff to defeat this contract|pg|| nt|kareno: Correct|pg|| nt|nils123: so maybe 1nt makes anyway|pg|| nt|bbramley: agree, 4@S seems normal|pg|| mb|p|nt|lethal666: it is cold now|pg|| nt|rv: NS make a @d partial so EW can afford to go 1 down|pg|| nt|rv: if Takano bids only 2@h (my choice), I suppose Nadim will x and NS will find their @d fit|pg|| nt|eggy: I'm not sure that it's bound to be bid either|pg|| nt|roghog: 3@d = advance cue bid. will now support @c|pg|| nt|Zmud99: Khoklov thinking...|pg|| nt|inquiry: 4@C will be a slam try... I wonder if it is minorwood.. that will keep thme out of 6@Cs... if so....|pg|| nt|Zmud99: he try to look at my screen...i go back..|pg|| nt|roghog: yes. 4NT Blackwood not so helpful if your suit is @c|pg|| nt|lrargerich: he what??|pg|| nt|sommer: sure|pg|| nt|mrdct: good lead|pg|| nt|timb: As Keith McNeil, the former director of Australian Bridge's bidding forum, used to say "There's blood on the floor"|pg|| nt|brolucius: Chinese had a big contract their way, so will need a bg penalty|pg|| nt|jkotor: declarer not happy to see the dummy here|pg|| mb|p|nt|dburn: I'm not sure that 4@h and 4@s actually are inferior to 3NT|pg|| nt|kareno: Vulnerable, it's likely that game will be bid.|pg|| nt|dburn: but it's not automatic to get these cards to any game, though it's likely|pg|| nt|kareno: The percentages favor even a poorish game and it's hard to judge which cards will be useful.|pg|| nt|rv: Today's schedule in the open event consists of last 2 rounds of pre-QFs and then the winners will play the 1st out of 6 rounds of QFs|pg|| nt|kareno: The defense gets off to its best lead.|pg|| nt|timb: South can discard a heart, preventing you enjoying @HK|pg|| nt|cascade: redouble was enterprising |pg|| nt|timb: DF agrees - lead a spade or a high diamond|pg|| nt|szalay: 1 off: if declarer try to ruff a @S: South MUST pitch a @D|pg|| mb|d|nt|thor17: better get diamond going right now|pg|| nt|szalay: if he ruffs @D early: easy 1 off|pg|| nt|szalay: declarer is 1trick short, 1 way or another|pg|| nt|timb: do we know what they are playing in the other room|pg|| mb|p|nt|ahh: loss of tempo but still is ok for def|pg|| nt|mrdct: could be good save againts EW's 7NT?|pg|| nt|offthebend: Let's work out the no. on perfect defence|pg|| nt|timb: It wins 3 against a grand slam, I'm told|pg|| nt|timb: play two low hearts from table!|pg|| nt|timb: and go down five|pg|| nt|mrdct: so is -5 the prediction?|pg|| nt|mrdct: seems about right|pg|| mb|p|nt|thor17: must play diamond|pg|| nt|roghog: wants to see our witty commentary, I expect!|pg|| nt|Zmud99: lol :)|pg|| nt|inquiry: well. 5@C solved all the problems, but I wonder if rekunov promised so litte?|pg|| nt|sommer: sic|pg|| mb|p|nt|curtis: I prefer canadian club|pg|| nt|mcphee: hehe|pg|| nt|mcphee: Carrot Club I am told is the "real" name|pg|| nt|inquiry: lose two aces, quick claim.. (i hope).....|pg|| nt|lrargerich: Maybe 3NT denied the heart ace and spade ace so...|pg|| nt|roghog: another cuppa!|pg|| nt|stewball: well whatever these were they were clearly effective|pg|| nt|stewball: an honourable push|pg|| nt|timb: 5@C in other room redoubled too|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d4|nt|jbgood: yes|pg|| nt|ahh: now not ok|pg|| nt|nils123: o 180, is 5 imps|pg|| nt|jtr: i think the @s9 should have tipped him off Unlikely play from Q9xx|pg|| nt|ahh: 5imp pickup|pg|| nt|nils123: not enogh, sweeden needs to dbl the stakes|pg|| nt|timb: I'm told it's the same contract in the other room|pg|| nt|dburn: but 3NT has nine top tricks, so this is another chance for Russia.|pg|| nt|bbramley: but 3@S certainly kept them at a comfortable level|pg|| nt|dburn: He may have felt that because he had so much in spades, and so little elsewhere, that a jump would attract more bidding from the opponents|pg|| pc|dA|nt|copeyj: an IMP gain likely for Ireland here, just the 9 made in the open room|pg|| nt|mrdct: i'll take +1400 when non-vul anyday|pg|| nt|jkotor: fast 9 tricks also in nt|pg|| nt|timb: (I'm told)|pg|| pc|dT|pg|| nt|brolucius: He's seen it!|pg|| pc|s5|nt|gcohler: yes we all would bid 1ht but dbl over 1 spa with hts and spades is quite risky on bad hand|pg|| nt|jbgood: second that too:)|pg|| nt|inquiry: guess still have to play @Hs before claiming....|pg|| pc|s3|pc|sQ|nt|ahh: do that on every board they win|pg|| pc|s4|pg|| nt|cherilou: but NV|pg|| nt|murad: could be a partscore swing if the Dutch bid and make a @S partial in open|pg|| nt|pyg: other room contract: 5@c dbled redbled|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d7|nt|lethal666: Takano, either should bid 2s or 3h In my own opinion|pg|| nt|jtr: well the problem is that the irish have been doubling the swedes:-)|pg|| nt|thor17: true..5 imps on every board leaves them 1 imp short :)|pg|| nt|curtis: and passive defense rarely indicated when opps have balance of power|pg|| nt|brolucius: It was not so easy for East-West to catch their opponents. Most pairs would let N-S off the hook.|pg|| pc|d6|nt|copeyj: things have calmed down after the massive exchange at the start|pg|| nt|curtis: Anders Morath's system|pg|| pc|dK|pg|| pc|hT|pc|hA|nt|jkotor: whose mistake?|pg|| pc|h3|nt|jbgood: nonvuln undertricks may also be expensive|pg|| nt|inquiry: russia is playing very strongly so far this stanza, and being matched at other table by hungary,,,.... |pg|| pc|h2|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h6|nt|nils123: 51 behind and 11 boards, true 5 in average is enogh|pg|| nt|timb: good card|pg|| nt|offthebend: It is down 5 to gain 3 if the grand is bid|pg|| nt|mrdct: but with players of this standard, it's not unexpected that it turns out to be flat|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h7|pg|| nt|curtis: Original Carrot Club was canape based. This is some kind of red-headed stepchild or Anders'|pg|| nt|thor17: sorry 5X 12 = 60|pg|| nt|brolucius: Yes, South knew North did not hold four spades but it was still possible to contest with 2@S|pg|| nt|murad: I doubt the North hand will be opened with !NT in open, South may bid @S|pg|| nt|brolucius: I suppose we will get a game hand eventually|pg|| nt|murad: I am told NS play 2@H in other room|pg|| nt|murad: can someone check pls?|pg|| nt|murad: wrong info EW play 2@H in open|pg|| nt|copeyj: 2@H by west|pg|| pc|c8|nt|timb: easy one off now|pg|| pc|c9|nt|mrdct: or not - looking like 7 imps to china|pg|| nt|timb: does Nunes say "Thank you partner"?|pg|| nt|brolucius: It's a privilege to watch play of this standard (even though 1100 and 1400 are not usually regarded as high-class) |pg|| pc|c4|nt|rv: 12 welcome IMPs for England in last board|pg|| pc|c3|pg|| pc|h9|nt|kareno: Yes, that looked fairly likely.|pg|| pc|s2|nt|eggy: now declarer holds his breath|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h5|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c2|nt|mcphee: nicely done|pg|| pc|c7|nt|kareno: And gets the good news.|pg|| pc|cT|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c6|pc|d2|nt|eggy: and sigh of relief|pg|| pc|cK|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|cJ|pc|d3|pc|hQ|pg|| nt|copeyj: yes. well done|pg|| nt|mcphee: chalk up 2 more imps|pg|| mc|6|pg|| qx|o6|st||md|4SQTHQ83DT75432CA4,S764HJ742DAKJ9CQ7,SAKJ95HK6DQ6CK862,S832HAT95D8CJT953|sv|e|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1C|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|2S|nt|jtr: The two teams are competing for around 900 euros, divided as follows: 1-47 IMPs = 60-40% ... 48-95 IMPs = 70-30% ... 96-143 IMPs = 80-20% and 144+ IMPs = 90-10%. Should we have a ...|pg|| nt|jtr: tie, the juniors will get 60%|pg|| mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|josj: I did not know they had Euros in Hungary already :-))|pg|| pc|d8|nt|jtr: they dont care what shape the money is:-)|pg|| nt|szalay: hope no official from Hungarian tax Agency here:-)|pg|| pc|d2|pc|dK|pc|d6|pg|| nt|jtr: this may have a chance|pg|| nt|szalay: only trump lead beats it..|pg|| nt|jtr: even then the defence needs care|pg|| nt|jtr: trump knocks out an entry for the @ds|pg|| nt|szalay: but its defficult, declarer has good trump interiors|pg|| nt|jtr: well any bets?|pg|| pc|dA|pc|dQ|pc|h5|pc|d3|pg|| pc|d9|pc|sA|pc|c9|pc|d4|pg|| pc|h6|nt|jtr: ok its over now|pg|| nt|jtr: with trumps 3-3|pg|| nt|szalay: give this 10 IMPs to South...4@S was perfect bid with weak @D and good doubleton @S|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h3|pc|h2|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Hello everyone|pg|| nt|szalay: hi Roland:-)|pg|| nt|josj: hi roland|pg|| pc|cJ|nt|szalay: now easy xruff to 10 tricks as well|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c7|pc|c2|pg|| pc|h8|pc|h4|pc|hK|pc|h9|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c3|pc|c4|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|c6|pc|c5|pc|sT|nt|jtr: nicely timed|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|c6|st||md|4SQTHQ83DT75432CA4,S764HJ742DAKJ9CQ7,SAKJ95HK6DQ6CK862,S832HAT95D8CJT953|sv|e|nt|lethal666: I like 2s as his singlton gives value to his hand|pg|| nt|fluffy: even if they found @d fit they probably not get to the 4 levelvulnerable|pg|| nt|rv: I prefer 2@h and compete to 3@h if opps compete further|pg|| nt|lethal666: Too passive, and doesnt get across to partner about what your hands about...|pg|| nt|kareno: Steve, are you old enough to remember a very famous Eggy in bridge?|pg|| nt|dburn: von Dewitz?|pg|| nt|ahh: i'm ok with big numbers 13 gives me a problem and spelling too|pg|| nt|jtr: oh dear a flat board sorry non-irish specs:-)|pg|| nt|offthebend: Nunes-Fantoni may feel a bit of pressure now -do you think ?|pg|| nt|jkotor: maybe E should bid 2@s |pg|| nt|brolucius: Spade lead in the other room|pg|| nt|copeyj: looks like we are still waiting for that elusive game board|pg|| nt|brolucius: Russia will have an excuse for not catching up|pg|| nt|brolucius: Since 3@H showed heart or spades, South was fortunate to have both suits stopped. |pg|| nt|stewball: well that was quick....|pg|| nt|mthiele: 4@h here for NS|pg|| nt|reisig: finally -- a flat hand:)|pg|| nt|bbramley: over 4@S east might have gotten excited|pg|| nt|brolucius: Kibitzers have suggested about 4 possible reasons but I am still in the dark|pg|| nt|dburn: but that couldn't really be right - North was limited and South had passed|pg|| nt|mthiele: with a better hand could have cuebid 3@c, so 4@s looked normal|pg|| nt|bbramley: n/s were unlikely to act, with north limited and south having already passed|pg|| nt|timb: zia made it!|pg|| nt|szalay: I doubt it will 3rd segment of Final is coming...Bazar will be better place for shopping..btw: I didnt go there in 11 days:-( no time|pg|| nt|timb: by winning the spade and playing back a spade. North rose with @SK|pg|| nt|pyg: in open room in 5@c XX, there was a clash in @s|pg|| mb|p|nt|curtis: Swedes always pass with 6 solid over 1N|pg|| nt|thor17: thot only 10 left|pg|| nt|lrargerich: another slam|pg|| nt|roghog: British Lord Yarborough used to bet against hands like Wests|pg|| nt|inquiry: many players might open EAST hand, especially playing a limited opening bid, but their 1D-1yak-2@C promise clubs and not necessarily diamonds|pg|| nt|lrargerich: 6@h from South is the best spot|pg|| nt|sommer: sure, no "rufffear" in the open room neither:)|pg|| nt|mrdct: we may see a nice competitive auction here|pg|| nt|reisig: The ladies are about tied|pg|| nt|dburn: On the other hand, he did have a lot of losers - perhaps he just thought 3@s would be all his side could make if Verhees passed it.|pg|| mb|p|nt|mcphee: nice to be on lead with this sort of suit against NT|pg|| nt|curtis: might have worked has McGann made club-based invite|pg|| nt|mcphee: not working any more|pg|| nt|kareno: Yes, Egmont von Dewitz.|pg|| nt|dburn: East might have (a) opened a strong no trump (b) done something more aggressive than 3@c. But it was not easy.|pg|| nt|stewball: this may depend on how declarerer starts the @hs|pg|| nt|reisig: not after 1NT|pg|| mb|p|nt|cherilou: another 1NT contract|pg|| nt|lethal666: I can understand 3h, but 2H should be good definsive values|pg|| nt|fluffy: would you ovrcall 1@s with that?|pg|| nt|mcphee: unless they play it at one level redbled|pg|| nt|eggy: he used to play in brighton when I was in my 20s|pg|| nt|kareno: Of Germany, a fabulous bridge character and fine player.|pg|| nt|dburn: Steve is old enough to remember the Egmont Overture, never mind Egmont von Dewitz :)|pg|| nt|eggy: I think he might have come to stefans as well, but before i was there|pg|| nt|ritong: looks like french style 2@ds|pg|| nt|mrdct: i'm sure none of the italians would be worrying at this point - in a few hours perhaps - but not now|pg|| nt|eggy: 3@C doesn't feel like a try, but clearly Nicola wasn't pre-emptive|pg|| nt|jkotor: fact is that 6th @c made needed trick|pg|| nt|dburn: 1@c is the systemic opening with this shape and this range for East-West|pg|| nt|dburn: Neither can our operator, with any luck :)|pg|| mb|1S|nt|kareno: LOL|pg|| nt|rv: aggressive 2n opening by Justin|pg|| nt|ritong: game forcing|pg|| nt|ritong: but not the answer:)|pg|| nt|mrdct: 4@S is a nice bid to put pressure on the opps|pg|| mb|p|nt|jbgood: or spadecontract|pg|| nt|lethal666: 1S is better the 2s by a long way, at least 1s wont encourage a bad Sacrifice|pg|| nt|kareno: Well, game is all that makes on this hand.|pg|| nt|eggy: I can remember the Earl of egmont from the wars of the Roses!|pg|| nt|rv: 4@h in trouble on @c lead|pg|| nt|curtis: time to recalculate|pg|| nt|nils123: peter almost had a 1@h overcall here :)|pg|| nt|lrargerich: Good hand for the fashionable 1@s response with hearts|pg|| nt|roghog: Mac is famous now. "I held the worst hand at the Olympiad!"|pg|| nt|inquiry: double helps, south can invision @S hook on now if needed......|pg|| nt|ritong: our ditch friends tell me is standard multi|pg|| nt|udo: game in @S and NT should make no trouble|pg|| nt|ritong: dutch*|pg|| nt|ritong: sry|pg|| nt|stewball: well thats true|pg|| nt|mthiele: hearts must be 2-2 in order to be able to ruff 2@s|pg|| mb|1N!|nt|nils123: 22-32 = 11 boards|pg|| nt|lrargerich: they may try to get a big number here|pg|| nt|roghog: 1@h = 7+pts 4+@h|pg|| nt|lrargerich: We should start thinking about 2@cx by East|pg|| nt|reisig: North Passes?|pg|| mb|p|nt|jkotor: system trouble for EW here|pg|| nt|dburn: and 2@c is ridiculous. I can't believe Nicola Smith really bid that.|pg|| nt|dburn: North, though, may have overcalled a natural 2@c|pg|| nt|murad: the swing hands are set for the last 8 boards|pg|| nt|mthiele: strange|pg|| nt|dburn: Well, he was happy to defend 2@d with the opponents vulnerable|pg|| nt|lrargerich: They have already played a strange 2@d :-)|pg|| nt|dburn: and game by no means certain for his side - perhaps he hoped Jansma would double 2@d|pg|| nt|offthebend: What's going on. N really wants to defend 2D with such a H fit|pg|| nt|lrargerich: Verhees was thinking "These guys have a problem with their 2@d contracts...."|pg|| mb|2C|nt|curtis: Magnus will review tactics during the break|pg|| nt|dburn: Indeed - and Jason might try for higher things when he finds a heart fit|pg|| nt|thor17: true..with heart 8 he'd have "been there" :)|pg|| nt|bbramley: 2@C=nat, 10-15, 2@S=NF|pg|| nt|dburn: What with the Law of Total Tricks, and "pre-empt to the limit" theory, we are now reduced to sitting here wondering...|pg|| nt|dburn: ...why a guy who thought his side might make 3@s bid only 3@s :)|pg|| mb|p|nt|rv: if you have enough values better to play in 3n, 1 trick less to make |pg|| nt|kareno: True enough. Looks like they've found hearts.|pg|| nt|dburn: Hard to tell with these Puppet Stayman auctions nowadays|pg|| nt|jkotor: would u?|pg|| nt|murad: should make it unless small dia led|pg|| nt|copeyj: Good news :)|pg|| nt|murad: otherwise east will ruff 3rd dia with good trump|pg|| mb|2S|nt|jbgood: an incredible lead|pg|| nt|lrargerich: 4@h I don't understand|pg|| nt|offthebend: Things seems to be going the chinese way this morning|pg|| nt|bbramley: 5@D! Dbl!|pg|| nt|udo: to show minimum ?|pg|| nt|mrdct: NS would seem to be lot happier in @H|pg|| nt|udo: is this minimum for 4 @S ?|pg|| mb|p|nt|dburn: but I think 3@h shows spades and 3@s shows hearts|pg|| nt|rv: I would have raised 2n to 3n|pg|| nt|ahh: can see why we commentate and dont play :)|pg|| nt|nils123: i used to play these sweedish pair in jrs, have had quite a few fights|pg|| nt|mthiele: ok|pg|| nt|mthiele: this is good news|pg|| nt|dburn: although since double by Verhees would be for penalty, if he really wanted to defend 2@d doubled he could have doubled it himself|pg|| nt|lrargerich: My spies report the Russians are getting imps from the rocks in the ladies match|pg|| nt|lrargerich: Restricted choice NOT working now :-) |pg|| nt|reisig: 4@h in other room too|pg|| nt|offthebend: on this hand, the Dutch can not lose-though they may not gain either|pg|| nt|dburn: It tends not to, when there has been a 1NT opening :)|pg|| nt|stewball: i may have felt restricted from bidding again with Jans garbage|pg|| mb|2N|nt|lethal666: 6C is cold here|pg|| nt|mcphee: tempted to bid the @C game I bet at these colors|pg|| nt|curtis: but more fun to listen to a gang of idiots than sagely wisdom|pg|| nt|ahh: see didnt need to overcall for lead|pg|| nt|mrdct: they sure are 26-1 so far|pg|| nt|offthebend: He is praying for H to behave|pg|| nt|dburn: Not really. You had committed your side to 2@h when you did bid - you can't logically pass out 2@d|pg|| mb|p|nt|cherilou: yes, I think that might be only lead to defeat|pg|| nt|jbgood: @s back|pg|| nt|yeshoney: yes|pg|| nt|vugraph196: 1NT alerted as 14-16|pg|| nt|copeyj: if McGann's J@D had been J@S instead, would have been on a (likely failing) finesse|pg|| nt|nils123: rumour has it that italy never dbl cue-bids for leads, because they trust pd always find the lead anyway?|pg|| nt|murad: failing a dia lead, one of dummy's dia will be discarded on the 3rd club|pg|| nt|brolucius: Annoying for Drijver to have partner speak in front of him - just when he was waiting to double...|pg|| nt|timb: Winning @SA and playing it back is a great rubber bridge player's move|pg|| nt|szalay: Bulgaria survived...3N was better |pg|| mb|3N|nt|fluffy: 650?|pg|| nt|kareno: A club lead is more attractive from the south hand.|pg|| nt|eggy: with the H 4-1 I don't think it matters|pg|| nt|rv: @s or @d lead likely from North|pg|| nt|sommer: I think he now showed 23-24, 3@C asking for 5c!|pg|| nt|ritong: puppet varianta, obviously|pg|| nt|stewball: 3c is likely 5 card stayman|pg|| nt|sommer: yes|pg|| nt|udo: best game reached , 11 tricks with @H-ruff and Club-discard on the @D s|pg|| nt|ritong: called " niemeyer" here, my source tells me|pg|| nt|ritong: yes, udo, no snag apparently for 11 trix|pg|| nt|stewball: is it so clear to ask with Schollaa's?|pg|| nt|bbramley: how about pass to show minimum? ;-)|pg|| nt|udo: perhaps agreed forcing, when game is bid red-white |pg|| mb|p|nt|rv: yes well fitting hands|pg|| nt|lethal666: if played right..win Ah pitch d|pg|| nt|lethal666: play 2 D's, ruff 3rd, then cross ruff, after giving up a spade|pg|| nt|kareno: The hearts in south certainly will get in the way.|pg|| nt|ritong: not my cup of tea|pg|| nt|ritong: tells much with small counterpart|pg|| nt|sommer: it's very flexible using puppet on 2NT's ..p bids 3@D with a 4c MA, 3MA is 5, 3 NT no 4 or 5|pg|| nt|stewball: you could easliy have 9+ NT tricks and 4+ losers|pg|| nt|ritong: knowing a "nonmajored" declarer can be useful defending 3 nt|pg|| nt|dburn: That was why it was OK for Verhees to pass the North cards.|pg|| mb|p|nt|mcphee: so the Irish will strike yet again|pg|| nt|udo: i would not like this , but...|pg|| mb|p|nt|murad: 2 rnds of trump and 3 rnds of clubs does it now|pg|| nt|szalay: another "different wavelength" bidding|pg|| pc|dK|nt|lethal666: or just setup spades...but they dont know its 3-3|pg|| nt|rv: many ways to make, @s break as well-:)|pg|| nt|lethal666: yes, but simple cross ruff looks easier, more likely to suceed|pg|| nt|inquiry: well... this will end in 6@H now, and iwth @SK on sides, seems easily makable dispite 4-0 trump split.. |pg|| nt|stewball: take away Dri"s @s 10/9|pg|| nt|ritong: + the john's reason, ofc|pg|| nt|mrdct: and this seem to be a nice stop out fo 4@H|pg|| nt|roghog: Dutch not overawed, I'm pleased to see|pg|| nt|mrdct: perhaps dbl by west is to disuade p from competing to 5@S on an inappropriate hand|pg|| pc|d6|nt|lethal666: play a spade now|pg|| nt|copeyj: 10 IMP pick up?|pg|| nt|dburn: If I could, I would, yes.|pg|| nt|bbramley: i would not play pass forcing, even red-white, espec. after a leap to game|pg|| pc|d8|pc|d2|pg|| nt|jbgood: very nice stuff!|pg|| nt|inquiry: and with that lead... even more so|pg|| nt|brolucius: Not automatic to bid Stayman and 1NT may fail at other table (unless NT range forces them to find the spade fit) |pg|| nt|pyg: yes, very well done by Zia Mahmood|pg|| pc|dA|nt|mcphee: looks like it|pg|| nt|offthebend: The other Italians not so much but this pair seems a bit more vulnerable at times|pg|| pc|dQ|nt|ahh: will be pleased long @H hand has no entry|pg|| nt|jkotor: me not, but its a question of style|pg|| nt|dburn: Russia in the other room did bid game on board 21 (West rather than East making the aggressive move), so the margin is now 42|pg|| nt|bbramley: west has exactly what he advertised with his 4@S bid|pg|| pc|c3|nt|eggy: Shoaib will surely know to switch after the @SK wins|pg|| pc|d3|pg|| nt|Zmud99: small break here..|pg|| nt|brolucius: On the previous board 2@H went down without the helpful trump lead and that was 5 IMPs to Netherlands|pg|| nt|murad: and when we rejoin... the big hands will be waiting|pg|| pc|s4|nt|rv: this contract requires a misdefense to make|pg|| nt|nils123: have been wondering about that, and after spectating versace-lauria a few boards i can see they realy make the leads every time... lol|pg|| nt|jtr: well he has 9 anyway|pg|| nt|udo: only 10 now?|pg|| nt|sommer: yes|pg|| nt|mrdct: a few stray overtricks in 2@S in the other room|pg|| nt|timb: 2S+3 is amazinig|pg|| nt|mrdct: i'm sure all of these players are well aware of how much of difference 1 imp can make, so expect the players to be working hard for every conceivable overtrick or undertrick|pg|| pc|s5|nt|curtis: But seriously, why bid over their 1N opener, especially when they're VUL?|pg|| nt|ahh: true|pg|| nt|ahh: only overtrick at stake|pg|| nt|jtr: and W is squeezed without the count|pg|| nt|thor17: Speaking of Italy..they have closed the gap to 12|pg|| nt|nils123: y|pg|| nt|jtr: so will make 10|pg|| nt|ahh: wow that will be some match|pg|| nt|nils123: west looking for a chance for defeat....|pg|| nt|jtr: if you come quickly Jim it is showing in the viewgraph here:-)|pg|| nt|nils123: he needs to look good... |pg|| nt|udo: i guess the 4 @S is wideranged , so pass should show the " only-@S-type"|pg|| pc|s8|nt|nils123: could make 11 now|pg|| pc|sT|pg|| nt|lrargerich: Spade 7 lead would have made this interesting|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s6|nt|jbgood: that lead was really something!|pg|| pc|sA|nt|eggy: I can hear Jason muttering from here :)|pg|| nt|sommer: no grand coup :)|pg|| nt|mrdct: south trying to get a trump coup happening|pg|| nt|szalay: he is a capable declarer, as I've heard:-)|pg|| nt|timb: imgainative player, like Zia, are wonderful to watch - they have a special insight into what their opponents are feeling on a given hand - and find moves to take advantage of it!|pg|| nt|timb: Tim Seres of Australia is the best I have ever seen|pg|| pc|s2|pg|| pc|sK|nt|mcphee: I agree Curtis|pg|| nt|kareno: Better shift now.|pg|| nt|dburn: That @c3 ought to tell South what to do|pg|| nt|rv: good play by Justin|pg|| nt|dburn: but psychologically, it's not so easy to play a club rather than a "safe" trump|pg|| nt|dburn: Well, Jason is declarer, so that @cQxx are in dummy|pg|| pc|s3|nt|offthebend: fantoni desperately looking for H10 with P|pg|| nt|stewball: well i'm not sure i agree with any of that:)|pg|| pc|d4|nt|kareno: Well done.|pg|| nt|roghog: presumably redbl showed @h support|pg|| pc|s7|pg|| nt|lethal666: looks like the -500 from 5h would have been cheap lol|pg|| pc|sJ|nt|rv: I don't think Takano had a x of 5@c, but this vulnerability you always assume opponents are saving|pg|| nt|dburn: Well done Shoaib|pg|| nt|rv: yes much easier to shift after @s finesse loses|pg|| nt|dburn: but Hadi must not play a spade now|pg|| nt|kareno: Now the @c Jack will put paid to the contract. A spade will be fatal.|pg|| nt|dburn: A diamond will also work, since South still has a trump|pg|| nt|kareno: A diamond will beat it too.|pg|| nt|rv: @s will not go anywhere, @c seems automatic|pg|| nt|ritong: ah we have another element, which goes along with puppet, btw|pg|| pc|h5|nt|ritong: 2nt 3nt is artif|pg|| nt|dburn: England trailed France by around 40 IMPs with two sets to go, but recovered to win.|pg|| pc|d5|nt|mcphee: especially when you are going to be on lead|pg|| nt|roghog: EW play most high level dbls as "wishing to compete" in bounced auctions. but I'm not sure about this situation|pg|| pc|h2|pg|| nt|eggy: I think that the lead made it easier as well, because Diamonds have no future for tricks|pg|| pc|s9|pc|h9|nt|lethal666: but it could be 800 if spade ruffs come|pg|| nt|dburn: However, it is not the kind of thing of which you want to make a habit.|pg|| nt|lrargerich: In the closed room without the 1NT opening RC may doom 4@h|pg|| nt|mthiele: lets pray for that :)|pg|| nt|lrargerich: They did fall in the Restricted choice trap|pg|| nt|Zmud99: little break here...|pg|| nt|mthiele: so the dutch settled down a bit after the desastrous start|pg|| nt|lrargerich: Thanks to all my spies|pg|| nt|lrargerich: They lead the hQ in the open room! :-)|pg|| nt|lrargerich: And Russia is now 104-101 in the women match|pg|| nt|mthiele: better to play low from a doubleton :)|pg|| pc|d7|nt|copeyj: bored of passing? only explanation I can find|pg|| pc|c7|pg|| nt|curtis: I think Nystrom just got tired of defending every stinking hand|pg|| nt|mcphee: this decision cost him 10 imps|pg|| nt|ritong: i definitely do not like this convention|pg|| pc|h6|nt|eggy: if N had led @S South would have been more on the spot|pg|| nt|udo: yes both minors or trsf @C, depends on agreement|pg|| nt|bbramley: but he can't quite do it|pg|| nt|mrdct: indeed - may have been better pitching a @H than a @S|pg|| nt|udo: -1 was possible ?|pg|| nt|roghog: bounced into a phantom save...|pg|| nt|mrdct: the dutch are in 5@H doubled in the other room|pg|| nt|mrdct: we may have a new leader soon|pg|| nt|roghog: good use of the Vul by Maarten S. stopped the oppo getting to @h|pg|| nt|mrdct: versace made the same 4@S bid in the open room, but prooijen bid 5@H straight away|pg|| nt|brolucius: 4@S looked normal. What was the bidding at the other table?|pg|| pc|hT|pc|hQ|nt|copeyj: Ireland are going to be right back on Sweden's tails now. |pg|| pc|h4|pg|| pc|h3|nt|fluffy: @s ruff to 5@h means 800|pg|| nt|sommer: scooping @C10 gives still 11|pg|| pc|h7|nt|dburn: A chance for Pakistan, if they reach 3NT|pg|| pc|hK|pc|hA|pg|| pc|c5|nt|lethal666: yes|pg|| nt|rv: last brd Gold went down in cold 3n|pg|| pc|cA|pc|cQ|pc|c2|pg|| mc|8|nt|ritong: sorry for talking of bidding that much|pg|| nt|ritong: no great interest in the play is the reason|pg|| nt|sommer: some kibbs are free to ask, and if time, we'll answer :)|pg|| pg|| qx|o7|st||md|1S6HT98732D75CQJT2,SJT9873HAKJ5DACK9,SAKQ4HQDJ62CA8654,S52H64DKQT9843C73|sv|b|nt|jtr: undo i think|pg|| mb|p|mb|1S|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|2N|nt|szalay: do u prefer 1N or 2C by North? or timid pass?|pg|| nt|jtr: disciplined pass|pg|| mb|3D|nt|jtr: by W i mean|pg|| mb|p|nt|szalay: lol:-)me 2...just dont like suggest it stronger:-) good answer, david:-)|pg|| mb|p|nt|jtr: i dislike 2@c intensely|pg|| nt|Walddk2: I do not like 2@C at all with that suit|pg|| nt|Walddk2: If you can call it a suit at all|pg|| nt|szalay: stopper:-)|pg|| nt|jtr: hardly a jacket even:-)|pg|| nt|josj: it seems that even 5@C may make|pg|| mb|p|nt|szalay: if someone plays this kinda 5@C: will get 10% only:-) thx to reguations: u cant earn less:-)|pg|| pc|s6|nt|gal: It will be a deserved ickup for the juniors|pg|| nt|josj: well, 3 nt is much easier|pg|| nt|jtr: looks like a nice gain for the juniors|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|sQ|pc|s5|pg|| nt|szalay: sry to say, but: u r right:-(|pg|| nt|josj: but will go down|pg|| nt|jtr: not yet|pg|| nt|Walddk2: I think you should be pleased if you get around 30%, György :-)|pg|| nt|szalay: :-)|pg|| nt|gal: a heart beats it thanks to the blockage|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s2|nt|Walddk2: Losing by 48 IMPs is no disgrace over 96 boards|pg|| pc|d5|pc|s3|pg|| nt|szalay: and winning?:-)|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|cK|nt|josj: 3@D is made now but declarer does not know yet|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c3|pg|| pc|s4|pc|c7|pc|d7|pc|s7|pg|| nt|gal: he can't go wrong by now|pg|| pc|h2|pc|hA|pc|hQ|pc|h4|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d6|pc|d3|pc|h3|pg|| nt|szalay: and worse boards coming for us...|pg|| nt|Vugraph171: Little technical break|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Róbert Szemerre is now being replaced by Zsuzsa Ditrói as our operator. Welcome to her|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|c7|st||md|1S6HT98732D75CQJT2,SJT9873HAKJ5DACK9,SAKQ4HQDJ62CA8654,S52H64DKQT9843C73|sv|b|nt|lethal666: still we should expect 6 imps to Egypt there|pg|| nt|copeyj: +18 net gain over the first 6 boards in this session|pg|| nt|kareno: The swing is reversed.|pg|| nt|rv: could be a very costly mistake he played for drop in @cs|pg|| nt|kareno: Looking for a swing. Did east play the ten under the ace?|pg|| nt|eggy: I don't know what he played for ? QT doubleton?|pg|| nt|vugraph196: he played for a squeeze betw club and heart|pg|| nt|inquiry: russia stretches it lead.....|pg|| nt|inquiry: at the other table, EAST opened 1@D... |pg|| nt|jkotor: EW here with lot of @h@h|pg|| nt|murad: 2@S-1 in open on account of @DQ led by E|pg|| nt|Zmud99: Jansma just said : "give my best regards to dutch supporters and sorry for bidding 2@H (500) "|pg|| nt|murad: interesting hand|pg|| nt|brolucius: Can these exciting boards possibly have been randomly dealt? I think they were planted for our entertainment.|pg|| nt|mrdct: which versace doubled|pg|| nt|roghog: plenty of investment and sponsorship in Dutch bridge, and they have an elite squad of 5 pairs|pg|| nt|mrdct: it will be tricky for EW to say out of game here|pg|| nt|offthebend: Amazing turn around in the ladies - US going without scoring in this set so far|pg|| nt|mthiele: make 4@s here |pg|| nt|lrargerich: Probably a spade partscore now for EW|pg|| nt|offthebend: Only H lead beats 4S on this one|pg|| nt|mthiele: not even|pg|| nt|stewball: so 10 semi random imps to the Dutch|pg|| nt|offthebend: Not likely to bebid I suppose|pg|| nt|lrargerich: Semi random imps ? Do they count differently ?|pg|| nt|mthiele: :)|pg|| nt|dburn: East-West might have made 3NT with the cards as they are, but it was bid at neither table|pg|| nt|szalay: cause he is Hungarian:-)|pg|| mb|p|nt|fluffy: when you bid a vulnerable vs non vulnerable game, some partnerships agree they are in a forcing pass situation, and takano didn´t want to play 5@h|pg|| nt|murad: 3NT by North looks like a succesful venture|pg|| nt|dburn: (reasonably enough, since it was a poor contract)|pg|| nt|timb: he is one of the few players it is a total joy to watch - at his peak he never seemed to make a mistake in play or defence|pg|| mb|1S|nt|rv: Teramoto's pass of 5@c was not foring so Takano had no real reason to x|pg|| nt|dburn: No - he played to squeeze East in hearts and clubs|pg|| nt|ahh: action here|pg|| nt|brolucius: 2D 10-13 again|pg|| nt|offthebend: To lose 2 imps in a well judged contract is no justice|pg|| nt|jkotor: vs N with a lot of points|pg|| nt|mthiele: 7m here|pg|| nt|brolucius: Six precious boards have slipped away and no inroads made yet|pg|| mb|p|nt|lethal666: np he didnt know what was going on, so decided the oponents didnt know either...Bad judgement there|pg|| nt|rv: but agree with Gonzalo that many partnerships play pass as forcing at this vul|pg|| nt|mcphee: if they avoid slam here it is going to be yet another gain|pg|| nt|copeyj: and if they stay out of the doomed 6@C here, they may make another gain|pg|| nt|kareno: Pretty anti-percentage.|pg|| nt|jbgood: South might have opened 2@c showing 10-16, but took a pessimistic view|pg|| nt|mthiele: so they did go down in 4@h in the other room !!|pg|| mb|1N!|nt|mcphee: 14-16 NT range I beleive|pg|| nt|rv: looks like played for a swing|pg|| nt|udo: a flat 4 @H here ?|pg|| nt|ritong: nice 6/4, tho|pg|| nt|mrdct: another potential phantom save hand|pg|| nt|dburn: but now here is a real slam|pg|| mb|p|nt|fluffy: 1NT nat or transfer anyone knows?|pg|| nt|rv: Nadim's 1n may be trf to @C here|pg|| nt|nils123: yes, possible imps|pg|| mb|2H|nt|lethal666: allready in -500 teritory here|pg|| nt|eggy: East didn't|pg|| nt|mrdct: who said there was justice in bridge?|pg|| nt|brolucius: 5C good, but difficult to sacrifice at Red.|pg|| nt|offthebend: You said it Dave|pg|| nt|mrdct: need to be careful not to get too high now|pg|| nt|timb: Fantoni will surely bid 5@C but can EW judge to go onto 5@H|pg|| nt|mrdct: NS are playing this in 5@C in the other room|pg|| nt|brolucius: North barely had his double in the first place. He will beat par if he finds the sacrifice. |pg|| nt|mrdct: undoubled|pg|| nt|timb: actually 5@H probaly fails whereas 5@S makes|pg|| nt|dburn: Dhondy was unwilling to risk a five-card suit weak two bid at the vulnerability, but will get another chance|pg|| nt|eggy: looks about 9 tricks each way|pg|| nt|brolucius: 2@S will be passed out|pg|| mb|p|nt|yeshoney: hand 5 might mean points to USA because e-w can play 2s|pg|| nt|yeshoney: hand 6|pg|| nt|fluffy: ok, we hav some spects with knowdlegde :), it is transfer|pg|| nt|fluffy: ty Samih|pg|| nt|lethal666: hard to see 1nt as natural|pg|| nt|rv: 3@S by Teramoto here|pg|| nt|mcphee: so possible they will not go the distance|pg|| nt|copeyj: a touch easier to stay out opposite this 14-16 than opposite a strong NT I guess|pg|| nt|dburn: Not at all. He knew clubs were 3-3, and guessed that East rather than West had the queen.|pg|| nt|kareno: Too early to be playing for swings I think.|pg|| nt|curtis: weird pass|pg|| nt|nils123: dont like norths pass over 2@c|pg|| nt|jtr: S needs to protect Not obvious|pg|| nt|ahh: no he is fixed now|pg|| nt|thor17: agree...VERY conservative|pg|| nt|mrdct: big opporunity here for china|pg|| nt|jkotor: double now promises strong hand|pg|| nt|dburn: 1@c is natural, or 12-14 balanced, or various good hands|pg|| nt|jkotor: 1@d was mostly negative|pg|| nt|dburn: 1@d is any 0-7, or some 7-10s with no major|pg|| nt|mrdct: 4@H EW in the open room|pg|| nt|pyg: disciplined pass by South , with an atypicall weak2 op