vg|Taiwan University Championship Final,Seg 4,I,17,32,NTU,131,NCTU,115| rs|3NS+2,3NS=,3NS-1,4HN-2,3NW+2,3NW+3,4HN=,4HN+1,5CN+2,6CN=,1NS-2,1NS-2,2DW-1,1NS=,4HW+1,4HW+1,5DS-1,3NS+1,7HN-1,5HN+1,2NE=,3DE-2,2SS+1,4SN-1,4SE=,4SE=,1DW+1,2DWx=,2DS+2,2DS+1,3NS-4,3NE-4| pn|eieio,Andy Liu,jerryb,ponpon,right,severus,mirorman,bugger|pg|| qx|o17|st||md|3SKQHQT5DAJ632CK63,S985H94DKT98CA974,SAJT42HA63DQ4CQT2,S763HKJ872D75CJ85|sv|o|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|h9|pc|h3|pc|hK|pc|h5|pg|| pc|h2|pc|hQ|pc|h4|pc|h6|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s5|pc|s2|pc|s7|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s8|pc|s4|pc|s3|pg|| pc|d2|pc|dK|pc|d4|pc|d5|pg|| pc|c4|nt|by: ladies and gentlemen, this is the last set of 16 of the hotly contested University and Colleges Championship of Taiwan|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c8|pc|cK|pg|| nt|by: Between the National Taiwan University and National Chiao Tung University teams|pg|| pc|hT|pc|c7|nt|by: but that is the better match-up ...|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|c17|st||md|3SKQHQT5DAJ632CK63,S985H94DKT98CA974,SAJT42HA63DQ4CQT2,S763HKJ872D75CJ85|sv|o|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2D|nt|vugraph7: sorry, I meant Board 1 =)|pg|| mb|p|mb|2S|nt|ritong: quick recover:)|pg|| mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|vugraph7: @DT showed the @DJ or shortness|pg|| nt|dinos1: @h shift neede|pg|| nt|dinos1: then only 9 tricks|pg|| nt|mikeh: @h switch would have worked better|pg|| pc|c4|pc|cT|pc|cJ|pc|cK|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d8|pc|dQ|pc|d5|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s7|pc|sQ|pc|s5|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s8|nt|dinos1: cd 10 be from KJ10?|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s6|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h4|pc|hA|pc|h2|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s3|pc|c3|pc|s9|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|c5|pc|c6|pc|c7|pg|| pc|sT|pc|h7|pc|d2|pc|c9|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d7|pc|dA|pc|d9|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|dK|pc|h3|pc|h8|pg|| pc|dT|pc|h6|pc|hJ|pc|d6|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|o18|st||md|4SJT42HT85DAK76CK3,SKQ965H74DT8CAT65,SA83HAQJ32DJ32CJ8,S7HK96DQ954CQ9742|sv|n|mb|p|mb|1N!|mb|2S|mb|3D!|an|!h trans leb|nt|by: invitational or better transfer|pg|| mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|3N|nt|by: 3NT will not be a happy contract unless west leads a @s|pg|| mb|p|nt|by: 4@h will be unhappier|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|pc|sK|nt|by: it's all in the hands of andy liu|pg|| nt|by: oops!!|pg|| nt|by: I think that it is better to *duck* this trick|pg|| nt|by: if you take the @sA and finesse the @h and lose, and a club comes back you go down|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s7|pc|s4|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d4|pc|dA|pc|d8|pg|| pc|hT|pc|h4|pc|h2|pc|h6|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h7|pc|hQ|pc|hK|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c3|pc|cA|pc|c8|pg|| nt|by: my point is this: even with 5@h, you need a second spade trick|pg|| pc|c5|pc|cJ|pc|cQ|pc|cK|pg|| pc|h8|nt|by: so ducking the spade can't hurt|pg|| pc|s5|pc|hA|pc|h9|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|c2|pc|d6|pc|s6|pg|| pc|h3|pc|c7|pc|s2|pc|s9|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d5|pc|dK|pc|dT|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|sQ|pc|s3|pc|c9|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|c18|st||md|4SJT42HT85DAK76CK3,SKQ965H74DT8CAT65,SA83HAQJ32DJ32CJ8,S7HK96DQ954CQ9742|sv|n|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|1S|nt|ritong: clearly considering a bammy 6 nt lap|pg|| mb|2H|mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|nt|dinos1: Hamman led @d3 ag 6NT thus preventing overtrick|pg|| nt|mikeh: declarer preferring the elegant squeeze to the simpe finesse?|pg|| nt|ritong: who was declarer, sergey?|pg|| nt|mikeh: simple|pg|| mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s7|pc|sT|pc|sQ|nt|vugraph7: Okay guys, I goofed and only just realized it --- I have the EW players backwards (sorry!)|pg|| nt|dinos1: cant find file :)|pg|| nt|ritong: i am told it was sontag|pg|| pc|sA|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d4|nt|dinos1: mb Sontag|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d8|pg|| nt|dinos1: yes|pg|| pc|h5|nt|dinos1: :))|pg|| nt|kareno: Same lead which is what you'd like to do in BAM|pg|| nt|dinos1: @sxxxx ask attacking lead|pg|| pc|h4|pc|hJ|pc|hK|pg|| nt|mrdct: EW just need to avoid playing on @C i think|pg|| nt|by: even if they play @c now .... they'll get a spade ruff back|pg|| nt|mrdct: true|pg|| nt|mrdct: an interesting collection of player names in this room|pg|| nt|by: in fact maybe a trump back is nasty too|pg|| nt|by: well, yes, those id's|pg|| pc|h6|nt|by: for NTU to win this, something needs to befall NCTU on the very last hand|pg|| nt|noeye: How about result of Board64?|pg|| nt|mrdct: the problem is NTU have a bad score (-200 on brd 32) still to be compared|pg|| pc|hT|pc|h7|nt|dinos1: same play :)|pg|| pc|h3|pg|| nt|mrdct: of course a simlar auction could happen here and then get doubled!|pg|| nt|by: yes, something doubled, obviously|pg|| pc|h8|pc|s5|pc|hA|pc|h9|pg|| nt|mrdct: which would be 1400 for a swing of 15 imps!|pg|| pc|hQ|nt|mrdct: my money is on NCTU|pg|| nt|by: that too, obviously|pg|| pc|c2|pc|d7|nt|by: after all, 14 imps is 14 imps is 14 imps|pg|| pc|s6|pg|| nt|noeye: may down 2 here|pg|| nt|mrdct: possible slam swing coming up on the next hand|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d5|pc|dK|pc|dT|pg|| pc|d6|pc|c5|pc|dJ|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|d9|pc|s2|pc|c6|pc|h2|pg|| nt|dinos1: play for sqz|pg|| nt|mrdct: could go many of here with low @C to K|pg|| pc|s3|pc|c4|pc|sJ|pc|sK|pg|| pc|s9|nt|noeye: down 2|pg|| pc|s8|nt|vugraph7: sorry ---- they were flipping too fast|pg|| nt|mikeh: at imps, you would perhaps be worrying about 5-1 @S, so would finesse @D at trick one, not caring about the OT. But at BAM, not only is a squeeze a 50% chance, but leader will be ...|pg|| nt|mikeh: less likely to have led away from a K|pg|| nt|ritong: is a speed matter|pg|| nt|vugraph7: but he made it|pg|| nt|vugraph7: One round to go ---- Start time is 12 noon EST|pg|| nt|dinos1: @s 5-1 has no matter 'cause you have always 12 tr|pg|| nt|kareno: Yes, you can concede a @d at any time.|pg|| nt|dinos1: vice versa - if @s 5-1 you must fin to make 13|pg|| nt|kareno: Correct|pg|| nt|mrdct: margin down to 11 imps with 2 boards to play|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|o19|st||md|1S654H82DK752CJT52,SAQT3HAKJ5DA4CQ94,SK72HT9764DQ96C87,SJ98HQ3DJT83CAK63|sv|e|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|pjack: sry , ladies and gentlemans, we are moving to close room , there are two new guys there :)|pg|| pc|h6|pc|hQ|pc|h2|pc|h5|pg|| pc|s9|pc|s4|pc|s3|pc|sK|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h3|pc|h8|pc|hJ|pg|| nt|pjack: please follow us to close roomd , we will continue our comment there|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|c19|st||md|1S654H82DK752CJT52,SAQT3HAKJ5DA4CQ94,SK72HT9764DQ96C87,SJ98HQ3DJT83CAK63|sv|e|nt|by: n-s CANNOT possibly know that they've gotten 40 imps :P|pg|| nt|mrdct: in 6NT it may be possible to squeeze south in the minors|pg|| mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|nt|by: strange, I thought that their 2NT is 23-24|pg|| nt|mrdct: need to isolate the @D menace in south's hand|pg|| mb|3C|an|relay|mb|p|mb|3N|an| |mb|p|nt|by: shows both majors|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|dinos1: puppet|pg|| nt|by: actually this is a 50% slam or so|pg|| nt|by: not a bad slam at all|pg|| pc|d6|pc|dT|nt|kareno: In 3NT the west hand will be under pressure.|pg|| nt|vugraph7: 4@C shows @ds|pg|| nt|dinos1: Sontag-Weichsel bid 6@d after strong 1@c opening|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d4|pg|| pc|s8|pc|s4|pc|s3|nt|mrdct: well this will probably be flat - so NCTU just to to avoid going for 800 on board 32|pg|| pc|sK|pg|| nt|by: no, 1 imp to ntu I think|pg|| nt|noeye: 1 IMP for NTU|pg|| mc|12|pg|| qx|o20|st||md|2SAHKJ98DA652CA854,SQ95H42DQT73CT632,SJ632HQT76D4CKQJ7,SKT874HA53DKJ98C9|sv|b|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|d|mb|2S|an| |mb|3H|an| |mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c9|pc|c4|pc|c2|pc|cK|pg|| pc|h6|pc|h3|pc|hJ|pc|h2|pg|| pc|h8|pc|h4|pc|hQ|pc|hA|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|c20|st||md|2SAHKJ98DA652CA854,SQ95H42DQT73CT632,SJ632HQT76D4CKQJ7,SKT874HA53DKJ98C9|sv|b|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|d|mb|2S|an| |nt|dinos1: as to me 4@c was overbidding|pg|| mb|3H|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c9|nt|dinos1: you cant rely on partner having 4 @d's after he showed 5@s|pg|| nt|kareno: This will be a push board.|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c6|pc|cJ|pg|| pc|h6|pc|h3|pc|h8|pc|h2|pg|| nt|jmchen: because severus is here ...|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d3|pc|d4|pc|d8|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d7|pc|h7|pc|d9|pg|| pc|s2|nt|vugraph7: Cohen got impatient and claimed, asking "you're not ruffing a @H are you?"|pg|| nt|vugraph7: so that's it. =)|pg|| nt|vugraph7: bbiaf|pg|| nt|kareno: bbiaf?|pg|| nt|ritong: thx karen|pg|| nt|ritong: did not dare asking:)|pg|| nt|kareno: Or 'in a flash'|pg|| nt|ritong: yes!|pg|| nt|ritong: be back in a flash|pg|| nt|kareno: Thanks to all the kibitzers who informed us :)|pg|| nt|dinos1: :))|pg|| nt|kareno: Have we got the standings?|pg|| nt|kareno: I want to take a moment to thank our wonderful Viewgraph operator |pg|| nt|dinos1: claaappp :)|pg|| nt|vugraph7: with a round to go the Cayne team was in 2nd|pg|| nt|vugraph7: (brachman was leading)|pg|| nt|vugraph7: The comparisons for this table are complete|pg|| nt|kareno: We watched Brachman this afternoon.|pg|| nt|kareno: We'll see you tomorrow with lots more great BAM bridge.|pg|| nt|vugraph7: closing here; results and qualifiers will be available in a few mins from vugraph9|pg|| nt|kareno: Thanks again, Vugraph :-) |pg|| nt|ritong: merci a tous, esp @h susan great operating job|pg|| pc|s4|pc|sA|pc|s5|pg|| pc|d5|pc|dT|pc|hT|pc|dK|pg|| pc|c7|pc|s7|pc|cA|pc|c2|pg|| pc|d6|pc|dQ|pc|hQ|pc|dJ|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|h5|pc|c5|pc|c3|pg|| pc|s8|nt|noeye: 1 IMP now maybe important|pg|| pc|h9|pc|s9|pc|s3|pg|| pc|c8|pc|cT|pc|cK|pc|hA|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|o21|st||md|3SQ4HAK986DA9CA864,SJT32HQ54D8642CJ3,SA95HJDKT53CKQ952,SK876HT732DQJ7CT7|sv|n|nt|by: can I speak?>|pg|| nt|pjack: .|pg|| nt|vugraph bo: sure|pg|| mb|2S!|an|3145 or 3154|nt|by: ok, here we are again. let's see if NS gets to 6@c|pg|| nt|by: 2@s is a gadget that shows 3-1-5-4 or 3-1-4-5 and 11-15 hcp|pg|| mb|p|mb|2N!|an|relay|mb|p|mb|3C!|an|5!c|mb|p|mb|3H!|nt|by: we can expect south to relay a few times and place the contract|pg|| mb|p|mb|3N!|nt|by: 3NT shows a minimum|pg|| nt|by: I can't imagine playing here with the south hand|pg|| mb|p|mb|5C|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|by: oh no!!!|pg|| nt|by: I think that north underbid slightly, but south also underbid|pg|| pc|h7|pc|hA|pc|h4|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c3|pc|cK|pc|c7|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cT|pc|cA|pc|cJ|pg|| pc|hK|pc|hQ|pc|s5|pc|h2|pg|| pc|h6|pc|h5|pc|c5|pc|h3|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d7|pc|dA|pc|d2|pg|| pc|h8|pc|d4|pc|c9|pc|hT|pg|| mc|13|pg|| qx|c21|st||md|3SQ4HAK986DA9CA864,SJT32HQ54D8642CJ3,SA95HJDKT53CKQ952,SK876HT732DQJ7CT7|sv|n|nt|noeye: I think E careless defense worth 1 IMP:)|pg|| mb|1C|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2D|an| |mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|6C|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|noeye: A simple and fast bidding for S|pg|| pc|h7|nt|by: this is cold for 7@c with @h 4-3 and @c 2-2, of course you should not bid it|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h5|pc|hJ|pg|| nt|by: I cannot see how to beat this, but declarer may find a way|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c3|pc|cQ|pc|c7|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d7|pc|dA|pc|d4|pg|| pc|d9|pc|d6|pc|dK|pc|dJ|pg|| nt|noeye: I think 2N is strange,but anyway the contract is right|pg|| pc|cK|pc|cT|pc|c6|pc|cJ|pg|| pc|d5|pc|dQ|pc|c8|pc|d2|pg|| nt|by: well, what are you going to bid :P|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h4|pc|s5|pc|h2|pg|| nt|noeye: maybe 3C,3D is possible|pg|| mc|12|pg|| qx|o22|st||md|4SKQ6H642DQJ93CAT5,SA74HQJDAK54CJ982,SJ95HT83D862CKQ43,ST832HAK975DT7C76|sv|e|mb|p|mb|1N!|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d4|pc|d2|pc|dT|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s7|pc|s5|pc|s2|pg|| pc|s6|pc|sA|pc|s9|pc|s3|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h3|pc|h5|pc|h6|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h8|pc|hK|pc|h2|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h4|pc|s4|pc|hT|pg|| pc|h9|pc|sQ|pc|c2|pc|d6|pg|| pc|h7|pc|c5|pc|c8|pc|d8|pg|| pc|d7|pc|d9|pc|dA|mc|5|pg|| qx|c22|st||md|4SKQ6H642DQJ93CAT5,SA74HQJDAK54CJ982,SJ95HT83D862CKQ43,ST832HAK975DT7C76|sv|e|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|p|nt|by: watch out, bridge base will reboot|pg|| mb|1H|an| |mb|p|nt|jmchen: yeah, we noticed it|pg|| mb|1N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c2|nt|noeye: 1H bid is interesting,and E doesn't have some actions|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c6|pc|cT|pg|| pc|h4|pc|hJ|pc|h3|pc|h7|pg|| nt|by: it's not interesting, it's your club's official style|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h8|pc|hK|pc|h2|pg|| mc|5|pg|| qx|o23|st||md|1SQ8HKT82DKT8C6543,S76542HA54DJ63C87,SAJT93H63DAQ4CJT2,SKHQJ97D9752CAKQ9|sv|b|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|d|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|h6|pc|hQ|pc|h2|pc|h5|pg|| nt|pjack: will -1 in double dummy|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c3|pc|c7|pc|cT|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c4|pc|c8|pc|c2|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c5|pc|s2|pc|cJ|pg|| pc|c9|pc|c6|pc|h4|pc|d4|pg|| pc|sA|pc|sK|pc|s8|pc|s4|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|d2|pc|sQ|pc|s5|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d8|pc|d3|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|sT|pc|d7|pc|dT|pc|s6|pg|| pc|h8|pc|hA|pc|h3|pc|h7|pg|| pc|s7|pc|s9|pc|d9|pc|dK|pg|| mc|7|pg|| qx|c23|st||md|1SQ8HKT82DKT8C6543,S76542HA54DJ63C87,SAJT93H63DAQ4CJT2,SKHQJ97D9752CAKQ9|sv|b|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|d|mb|1N|an| |mb|p!|nt|kareno: Welcome back to the semifinals of the Reisinger BAM |pg|| nt|kareno: As you'll see over and over in this event, two great pairs are playing at this table.|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|pc|d3|pc|d4|nt|reisig: 1 session to reduce to 14 teams|pg|| nt|kareno: Casen and Krekorian are playing together after a lengthy absence - a very strong pair and of course, Levin and Weinstein are another great pair.|pg|| nt|reisig: Is this the real auction?|pg|| nt|kareno: I find it most peculiar if it is.|pg|| nt|vugraph7: yep|pg|| pc|d9|pc|dT|pg|| pc|sQ|nt|kareno: No doubt a cuebid en route to 4 @s|pg|| nt|vugraph7: there are some alerts, but I can't make out the notes|pg|| pc|s6|pc|s3|pc|sK|pg|| pc|cQ|nt|reisig: 2@c must promise a Maj..if 3N next|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c7|nt|noeye: now contract should be down 1|pg|| pc|c2|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c4|nt|kareno: That's my thinking so I believe 4@c was a cuebid.|pg|| pc|c8|pc|cT|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c5|pc|s5|nt|kareno: Fine auction to a fine contract basically relying on favorable spade position.|pg|| nt|reisig: great bidding - when @s finesse works|pg|| nt|kareno: 4@c certainly suited north!!|pg|| pc|cJ|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|hK|pc|hA|pc|h3|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h6|pc|hJ|pc|h2|pg|| pc|h7|pc|hT|nt|kareno: Do we know the standing tonight of either of these teams?|pg|| nt|vugraph7: yes -- I'll get the standings in a minute, but I can only type in one screen at a time. :))|pg|| nt|vugraph7: but the cayne team is in 2nd|pg|| nt|kareno: The lead made the contract even better!! And the lead was one I well might make - aggressive lead against a slam.|pg|| nt|kareno: Unluckily for west, it gave away a trick.|pg|| nt|by: what the hell ...|pg|| nt|by: I come in and see this stupid misdefense ...|pg|| mc|7|pg|| qx|o24|st||md|2SKQ952H72DQ752C85,ST7HKQJ965D4CK742,SAJ8HT8DJ83CQJT96,S643HA43DAKT96CA3|sv|o|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|cQ|pc|cA|pc|c8|pc|c2|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h2|pc|hK|pc|h8|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d3|pc|dA|pc|d2|pg|| pc|d6|pc|d5|pc|h5|pc|d8|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|hT|pc|h4|pc|h7|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|c24|st||md|2SKQ952H72DQ752C85,ST7HKQJ965D4CK742,SAJ8HT8DJ83CQJT96,S643HA43DAKT96CA3|sv|o|nt|vugraph7: After the first semi-final session, the top 10 in the Reisinger are:|pg|| nt|vugraph7: 1.Brachman-19; 2.Cayne-17.83; 3.Nickell-17.17; 4.Welland-17.16; 5.Meltzer-16.83; 6.Lev-16.83; 7.Sanborn-16.67; 8.O'Rourke-16.17; 9.Mossop-15; 10.Bertheau-14.67|pg|| mb|2H|mb|p|nt|by: ok, guys, eieio and jerryb just lost a slam, so it's now very close|pg|| mb|4H|nt|by: I think with the last hand nctu is now ahead|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|kareno: All excellent teams. Note that BAM is really a form event - the top teams always are those that played the best.|pg|| nt|vugraph7: Unfortunately Fred's team did not have a good afternoon -- they're currently in 25th place :(|pg|| mb|p|pc|cQ|nt|kareno: It's raining here in Orlando - a fine time to be watching a great bridge tournament :)|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c8|nt|kareno: Do we know who's at Cayne's other table?|pg|| pc|c2|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h7|pc|h5|pc|h8|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h2|pc|hK|nt|kareno: Very disciplined pass by Casen. Paul Heitner (a late, great player) had a law that is generally observed by experts: The five level belongs to the opponents.|pg|| nt|vugraph7: I'm looking :)|pg|| nt|kareno: This means that you don't save at the five-level unless it is RIGHT because the opponents must make exactly five to be right.|pg|| pc|hT|pg|| pc|d4|nt|by: holding @sQx @hAKxxx @dAx @cA9xx, you hear that partner has 3-1-4-5 and 11-13 hcp, what would you do?|pg|| pc|d3|nt|kareno: They're wrong if they can't make five and they're wrong if they can make six.|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d2|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d5|pc|s7|pc|d8|pg|| pc|d6|nt|by: I can't see not making a slam try, but that is what eieio did to himself.|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|o25|st||md|3SJ6HA92DA9432CK87,SQ985HJT63DCQJ642,SA74HKDQJ876CAT95,SKT32HQ8754DKT5C3|sv|e|nt|by: north will again open with the 2@s gadget to show 3145/3154, the same bid|pg|| nt|by: that served them so well to the tune of -12 imps 4 boards ago|pg|| mb|2S|an|3-1-5-4 or 3-1-4-5|mb|p|mb|5D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|by: to make this on a spade lead, declarer needs an endplay against east|pg|| nt|pjack: not a very good contract because Diamond is 3-0|pg|| pc|s5|nt|by: eieio will have to keep on his toes to make this.|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s2|pc|s6|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h4|pc|h2|pc|h3|pg|| nt|by: well, ok, could also be an endplay vs west|pg|| pc|d6|pc|d5|pc|dA|pc|c6|pg|| nt|by: !!!!!!!!!!|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h6|pc|s4|pc|h5|pg|| pc|h9|pc|hT|pc|d7|pc|h7|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|dK|pc|d2|pc|s8|pg|| pc|sK|pc|sJ|pc|s9|pc|s7|pg|| pc|dT|pc|d3|pc|hJ|pc|dJ|pg|| pc|c5|nt|pjack: -1 now , good defense|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c7|nt|noeye: The second lead for NCTU since Board 16 over|pg|| nt|by: a potentially fatal blow to NTU|pg|| nt|pjack: "2S" make NTU lose 22 imp|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|c25|st||md|3SJ6HA92DA9432CK87,SQ985HJT63DCQJ642,SA74HKDQJ876CAT95,SKT32HQ8754DKT5C3|sv|e|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|nt|vugraph7: We have new ops (2 board rounds) --- I'll get the names in a moment|pg|| nt|vugraph7: >>>>>>>>>> Board 9|pg|| nt|by: incredibly, eieio and jerryb will open again with 2@s a few boards later, I hope they do better|pg|| mb|3N|mb|p|nt|kareno: This has been a day of long suits and this hand is no exception!!|pg|| nt|reisig: at favorable ..4@c looks good|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|pc|c4|pc|c5|nt|by: A terrible lead. the opener is known to have the minors. it will not blow the contract, but will cost IMPs|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c7|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h3|nt|kareno: This could be bad for e/w.|pg|| nt|reisig: should make this|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h8|pg|| pc|dQ|nt|kareno: South has excellent cards in his partner's suits and a very useful ace. |pg|| nt|reisig: This board will not be a push|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d2|pc|c2|pg|| pc|d6|nt|kareno: The double put the board out of reach.|pg|| pc|dT|pc|dA|nt|kareno: Here's the crux of the hand.|pg|| pc|s5|pg|| pc|d3|pc|hT|pc|dJ|pc|dK|pg|| nt|kareno: And down he will go.|pg|| pc|h4|mc|10|pg|| qx|o26|st||md|4SK9HKQ753DJ95C972,SAJ432H842DK82CJ4,SHAJT96DA6CAQT863,SQT8765HDQT743CK5|sv|b|nt|by: if eieio makes that excuse, I will skin him alive|pg|| nt|pjack: I think this is a very important board to NTU|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1C!|mb|d!|mb|2D!|an|!h|nt|by: it's not clear to me now what that 2@d is|pg|| nt|pjack: X maybe shows S+D or H+C|pg|| nt|by: I think that eieio is having a misunderstanding|pg|| mb|p|mb|3H|mb|3S|nt|Walddk2: Please welcome Dave Thompson of Australia|pg|| nt|by: ok, maybe not, and they do understand each other (2@d shows @h)|pg|| mb|4H|nt|mrdct: it may be that 2@D was simply a transfer to @H|pg|| nt|by: Welcome, mr. Thomson|pg|| nt|mrdct: needs a @D lead to beat the slam|pg|| mb|4S|mb|5C|mb|p|mb|5H|mb|5S|nt|mrdct: dangerous 5@S bid|pg|| nt|by: but now east will not lead a spade |pg|| nt|mrdct: although 5@S isn't too far from making|pg|| nt|by: and 5@s is the par|pg|| mb|p|nt|by: jerryb knows that he's had the worst of the exchanges so far|pg|| mb|p|nt|mrdct: 5@S is makable if you get @D right - so 6@H may be the par contract|pg|| nt|by: you are correct|pg|| nt|mrdct: south thought long and hard before bidding 5@H - so he may press-on here|pg|| nt|by: south also knew that he was behind|pg|| mb|6C|mb|p|nt|by: uh-oh again!|pg|| nt|by: I see 7@h -- I suspect that N was making a grand slam try, not passing the buck to partner|pg|| nt|mrdct: the @D lead wont be easy to find|pg|| nt|by: not exactly easy to lead on these auctions, true|pg|| nt|mrdct: EW could "save" in 6@S or 7@S and still pick up imps on the board|pg|| mb|7H|mb|p|mb|p|nt|by: see, I tell you ...|pg|| mb|p|nt|mrdct: not a particularly good choice - 7 boards to go so not quite time for heroics yet|pg|| pc|s7|nt|by: well, in one sense, it is a 5-or-7 hand|pg|| nt|Walddk2: I don't blame jerry. What's the point of 6@C if you don't have an honour? eieio has nothing more than he already showed, so if he decides to bid on, 6@H must be the bid|pg|| nt|by: so single-dummy, it's not that bad a contract|pg|| nt|mrdct: terrible 6@C bid - should really be suggesting a @C honour|pg|| pc|s9|pc|sJ|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|hA|pc|s5|pc|h3|nt|by: ditto|pg|| pc|h2|pg|| nt|pjack: What a long time here ... lorderic can not breathe <= eieio & jerryb 's teammate|pg|| nt|mrdct: if we were to assume the @S lead vs. 6@H, this action has cost NTU about 26 imps in one hand|pg|| pc|h9|pc|s8|pc|h5|pc|h4|pg|| pc|h6|pc|s6|pc|hQ|pc|h8|pg|| pc|c9|pc|c4|pc|cQ|pc|cK|pg|| pc|sT|pc|sK|pc|sA|pc|hT|pg|| pc|cA|nt|vugraph bo: jerryb thinks 6@c is cue bid|pg|| nt|by: obviously|pg|| nt|vugraph bo: eieio thinks that is choice of slam|pg|| nt|Walddk2: honour cue bid, he is entitled to expect that|pg|| nt|noeye: I can hardly breathe also,despite I am not play:P|pg|| nt|vugraph bo: me2|pg|| mc|12|pg|| qx|c26|st||md|4SK9HKQ753DJ95C972,SAJ432H842DK82CJ4,SHAJT96DA6CAQT863,SQT8765HDQT743CK5|sv|b|nt|reisig: its one thing to go down when cold ...another when on vugraph!|pg|| nt|by: nothing like a fun hand to stir things up|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|by: mirorman must be wondering why he got to open the hand|pg|| mb|1H|mb|2S|nt|kareno: Matters not at all - you make what you consider the best play and go on with the game. Bobby Levin has been there before and will be there again.|pg|| nt|noeye: now it is interesting|pg|| nt|by: and I wonder why he opened 1@h|pg|| nt|by: it is to be noted that E-W can take 10 tricks in spades|pg|| nt|noeye: because he know his partner have 5 cards H:P|pg|| nt|by: that would be cota, not mirorman|pg|| nt|noeye: but 11 for NS|pg|| nt|by: so par is 5@sX-1|pg|| mb|3H|mb|4S|nt|by: 6@h rides on the opening lead|pg|| mb|5C|mb|p|nt|reisig: He's been around the block|pg|| nt|kareno: He's a fine player and unafraid of how his play may look on viewgraph.|pg|| mb|5H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|vugraph7: when Levin asked the double was explained by West as "penalty oriented" so he wasn't playing East for a singleton|pg|| nt|by: oh no!|pg|| pc|s7|nt|by: now NCTU is *clearly* ahead. this is a big problem with an undisciplined 2@s, the hand with @h shortness is faced|pg|| pc|sK|pc|sA|pc|h9|pg|| nt|by: with the decision, and he has to guess if partner has cards in the opposing suit|pg|| nt|noeye: maybe not so bad result for EW,6H can make except leadind D|pg|| nt|by: yes, but still.|pg|| pc|hA|pc|s8|nt|vugraph7: I expect he'll discuss it with a director.|pg|| nt|reisig: not the best start for the defense|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h2|pg|| pc|h6|pc|s5|pc|hK|pc|h4|pg|| nt|by: now mirorman is worried that east has @cKJx, but he is ¿nµ½¤§®a |pg|| nt|by: so nothing happens|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h8|nt|reisig: I expect - he won't|pg|| pc|hT|pc|s6|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c4|pc|cA|pc|c5|pg|| nt|pjack: a dangerous playing|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|cK|pc|c9|pc|cJ|pg|| nt|by: clearly, mirorman is known to block things|pg|| nt|noeye: maybe he think that E have singleton K or J,but it is unlikely when he void H|pg|| nt|by: a potentially very bad blow to ntu|pg|| nt|by: NTU has lost a lot of imps this set|pg|| mc|12|pg|| qx|o27|st||md|1SQ7HAT9754D52CT74,SK84HJ32DJ9643CQ8,SAT932H6DAQT7CJ53,SJ65HKQ8DK8CAK962|sv|o|mb|2D!|an|mini multi|nt|mrdct: 6 boards to go to catch up 20 imps|pg|| nt|by: yeah, choice of slams, but that does not make sense either|pg|| mb|p|mb|2H|an|P/C|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|Walddk2: 5NT would be choice of slams. He already signed off in 5@H, so it's not a grand slam try|pg|| pc|h9|nt|Walddk2: 6@C is a cue bid|pg|| nt|mrdct: with @C 3-3 this will roll home for another 6 imps to NCTU|pg|| nt|by: I think that is the end for NTU|pg|| nt|by: it is an idiotic signoff in 3@d in the other room|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h6|pc|h8|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c5|pc|c2|pc|c7|pg|| pc|c8|pc|c3|pc|cA|pc|c4|pg|| pc|cK|pc|cT|pc|d3|pc|cJ|pg|| pc|c9|pc|h5|pc|h2|pc|s2|pg|| pc|c6|pc|h4|pc|h3|pc|s3|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|hA|pc|d4|pc|s9|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d6|pc|dT|pc|dK|pg|| nt|mrdct: @H exit would've been better there|pg|| pc|hK|nt|by: yes|pg|| nt|mrdct: let declarer work for his tricks|pg|| nt|by: eieio has clearly lost his cool|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|c27|st||md|1SQ7HAT9754D52CT74,SK84HJ32DJ9643CQ8,SAT932H6DAQT7CJ53,SJ65HKQ8DK8CAK962|sv|o|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|2N|an| |mb|p|mb|3C|an| |nt|reisig: 2@s = @cs|pg|| mb|p|mb|3D|nt|kareno: Here's a case where if North can show a great club fit, he shouldn't - with only two clubs.|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|kareno: I'm guessing that north denied the good fit.|pg|| nt|vugraph7: 3@C was positive for @cs|pg|| nt|reisig: He said -- like @cs ..but Bobby says ..so what!|pg|| mb|p|pc|c7|pc|cQ|pc|c3|nt|reisig: NS --- minus 50 here|pg|| nt|kareno: Thanks!!|pg|| pc|c2|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d7|pc|dK|pc|d2|pg|| pc|d8|pc|d5|pc|d4|pc|dT|pg|| pc|h6|pc|hK|pc|hA|pc|h2|pg|| pc|s7|pc|s4|pc|s9|pc|sJ|pg|| pc|s5|pc|sQ|pc|sK|pc|sA|pg|| pc|sT|pc|s6|nt|kareno: That's all she wrote.|pg|| pc|h7|pc|s8|pg|| pc|s3|pc|c6|pc|h5|pc|d6|pg|| pc|d9|pc|dA|pc|c9|pc|h4|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|cA|pc|c4|pc|c8|pg|| mc|7|pg|| qx|o28|st||md|2SAJT84H62D953CQT2,S93HKT5D84CK98754,SKQ762HAJ83DQ2CA6,S5HQ974DAKJT76CJ3|sv|n|mb|p|mb|1C!|nt|mrdct: a chance here for NTU|pg|| nt|pjack: yes , i think they are too tired today, need take a rest , but so are J & L|pg|| mb|1N!|mb|2S|mb|p|nt|by: you need a spade lead into the @c tenace to make 4@s|pg|| nt|noeye: but also for NCTU player ponpon ,right,Andyleo maybe,They play all 4 rounds|pg|| nt|by: no, the ntu players are just not seasoned enough|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|mrdct: at least they can get their 6 imps back now|pg|| nt|by: 2@s is not forcing, but I am surprised at this pass|pg|| nt|pjack: yes , that is true, noeye :)|pg|| pc|d8|pc|d2|pc|dK|pc|d3|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d5|pc|d4|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s4|pc|s9|pc|sK|pg|| pc|s6|pc|d6|pc|sA|pc|s3|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h5|pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h6|pc|hT|pc|hA|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h7|pc|s8|pc|hK|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|c28|st||md|2SAJT84H62D953CQT2,S93HKT5D84CK98754,SKQ762HAJ83DQ2CA6,S5HQ974DAKJT76CJ3|sv|n|mb|p|mb|1S|nt|vugraph7: >>>>>>>>>> Board 12|pg|| mb|2D|nt|kareno: 5@d is an excellent contract. |pg|| nt|reisig: 3NT works|pg|| nt|by: a very ill-judged transfer bu severus|pg|| mb|3D!|nt|ritong: 3@s = i stop @s, what about @hs part|pg|| mb|p|nt|by: on the last hand, he has Jxx of hearts, he should pass 2N, if anything he should bid 3N, not signoff in 3@d|pg|| mb|3H|nt|ritong: when opps show several suits, cuebids are not questions|pg|| nt|ritong: but affirmations|pg|| mb|p|nt|reisig: 3N is better|pg|| mb|3S|nt|reisig: was|pg|| nt|kareno: It's miraculous! I'd accept the game try with the west hand.|pg|| mb|p|mb|4C|nt|reisig: 4N is tougher|pg|| nt|kareno: Sure is. I think it's down on perfect defense.|pg|| nt|ritong: no throwin?|pg|| nt|reisig: I hate making 5 discards|pg|| mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|nt|kareno: It's academic. They've reached the equal-best contract.|pg|| mb|p|nt|reisig: this looks like 400 for EW|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d3|pc|d8|nt|reisig: He'll play @s at trk 2|pg|| pc|d2|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d5|pc|d4|nt|reisig: now what?|pg|| pc|dQ|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d9|pc|c4|pc|s2|pg|| nt|reisig: strange play in @ds|pg|| pc|s6|pc|s5|pc|sA|pc|s3|pg|| pc|sJ|nt|reisig: might guard against 4-0 ..by playing @d Q|pg|| pc|s9|pc|s7|nt|kareno: I'd have expected club - club to get that suit established.|pg|| pc|d6|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h5|pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pg|| pc|h7|pc|h6|pc|hT|pc|hA|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h4|pc|s4|pc|hK|pg|| pc|s8|pc|c5|pc|sK|nt|kareno: This works - it's the hair-raising line :)|pg|| nt|ritong: whew|pg|| nt|reisig: I bet they don't qualify|pg|| pc|d7|pg|| pc|h8|pc|h9|pc|sT|pc|c7|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|cK|pc|cA|pc|c3|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|o29|st||md|3S5HKQ3DQJ872CJT82,SKJ863HAJT62D53C9,SATH985DA964CQ764,SQ9742H74DKTCAK53|sv|b|mb|p|nt|mrdct: this looks quite cold|pg|| mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2H|nt|mrdct: and should be easy to bid|pg|| mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|cJ|nt|mrdct: NTU are running out of boards|pg|| pc|c9|pc|c4|pc|cA|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c2|pc|d3|pc|c6|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s5|pc|sJ|pc|sA|pg|| pc|dA|pc|dT|pc|d2|pc|d5|pg|| pc|c7|pc|c3|pc|c8|pc|s3|pg|| pc|sK|pc|sT|mc|10|pg|| qx|c29|st||md|3S5HKQ3DQJ872CJT82,SKJ863HAJT62D53C9,SATH985DA964CQ764,SQ9742H74DKTCAK53|sv|b|nt|vugraph7: >>>>>>>> Board 13|pg|| mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|3N!|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ritong: @s ace|pg|| nt|reisig: beating this is not easy|pg|| nt|ritong: @c signal|pg|| nt|ritong: one off|pg|| pc|s5|nt|ritong: ok forget it:)|pg|| nt|reisig: Henri expects perfection|pg|| nt|vugraph7: I'll get comparisons from the Cayne EW pair (Cayne-Seamon this evening) during the hospitality break|pg|| nt|ritong: leading a raised suit is not my idea of perfection:)|pg|| nt|ritong: let s make it possible, if u want ;-)|pg|| pc|sK|pc|sA|pc|s2|pg|| pc|dA|pc|dT|pc|d7|pc|d3|pg|| pc|sT|pc|sQ|pc|d8|pc|s3|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|o30|st||md|4SQJ64HQ986D8CQJT8,SAT5HAT7DAQJT53C2,SK2HJ52DK642CAK76,S9873HK43D97C9543|sv|o|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|p|nt|mrdct: potential small pickup for NTU here|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|pc|cA|pc|c3|pc|cQ|pc|c2|pg|| pc|c7|pc|c4|pc|c8|pc|d3|pg|| pc|h7|nt|mrdct: double by south may have been the winning, albeit aggressive, action|pg|| pc|h5|pc|hK|pc|h6|pg|| pc|d9|pc|d8|pc|d5|pc|dK|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|c30|st||md|4SQJ64HQ986D8CQJT8,SAT5HAT7DAQJT53C2,SK2HJ52DK642CAK76,S9873HK43D97C9543|sv|o|nt|vugraph7: >>>>>>>> Board 14|pg|| nt|kareno: A pair like Berkowitz-Cohen might get the last one right. They play suit preference at trick one.|pg|| mb|p|nt|reisig: everyone does ... when Kx hits in dummy|pg|| nt|kareno: True enough.|pg|| nt|ritong: when the dummy has Kx, and north showed four cards during the bidding, is not real wizardry if u allow me|pg|| nt|kareno: But first you need to lead something to hold the trick :)|pg|| mb|p|nt|vugraph7: we lost Zia|pg|| nt|vugraph7: (he was kibitzing)|pg|| mb|1D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|d|nt|kareno: Interesting deep position by Chambers.|pg|| nt|reisig: too deep for me|pg|| nt|vugraph7: everyone's chuckling over the dummy|pg|| nt|kareno: I said deep. Not one I would take either. I think I would just pass and wait. North probably would reopen giving west a chance to get to the partnership's best denomination, ...|pg|| nt|kareno: clubs.|pg|| mb|2D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|d|nt|reisig: Did they close the bar?|pg|| nt|vugraph7: I hope not!|pg|| nt|ritong: :)|pg|| nt|kareno: No, they just raised it|pg|| nt|vugraph7: but they are going to close the room to kibitzers in 10 minutes: any kibs who leave after that time won't be able to get back in.|pg|| nt|vugraph7: Steve's still thinking|pg|| nt|ritong: we are warned|pg|| nt|reisig: Steve is thinking now?|pg|| nt|vugraph7: yep|pg|| nt|reisig: Not his turn to think:))|pg|| nt|kareno: Why not? He's on lead isn't he?|pg|| nt|reisig: Bobby on lead? Yes?|pg|| nt|vugraph7: Steve Weinstein is on lead with the @DA|pg|| nt|ritong: not anymore|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|cA|pc|c3|pc|cQ|pc|c2|pg|| pc|c7|pc|c4|pc|c8|pc|d3|pg|| pc|d5|nt|ritong: smells trump promo|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d9|pc|d8|pg|| pc|d7|pc|cJ|pc|dA|nt|kareno: Both pitches hold and a black suit ruff will live too for down one.|pg|| pc|d4|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s2|pc|s3|pc|s4|pg|| nt|ritong: only a perfume, true|pg|| pc|sT|pc|sK|pc|s7|pc|s6|pg|| pc|c6|pc|c5|pc|cT|pc|dT|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|dK|pc|c9|pc|h9|pg|| pc|cK|pc|h3|pc|sJ|nt|vugraph7: back in a bit|pg|| nt|ritong: let s make it @c ruff to back hand, though|pg|| nt|reisig: take a break:)|pg|| pc|dJ|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|h4|pc|h6|pg|| pc|h7|pc|h5|pc|hK|pc|h8|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|o31|st||md|1SA974H3DJT9843CQT,ST532HKJ4D52CJ864,SKQJ6HQT762DQCK72,S8HA985DAK76CA953|sv|n|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1H!|mb|p|mb|1N!|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s5|nt|mrdct: i wonder how 4@S may have gone?|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s8|pc|s4|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|dK|pc|d3|pc|d2|pg|| nt|mrdct: probably not well :)|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h3|pc|h4|pc|h2|pg|| pc|h5|pc|d4|pc|hJ|pc|h6|pg|| nt|mrdct: i'm told 1NT was not systemically correct in NS' system|pg|| pc|d8|pc|d5|pc|c2|pc|dA|pg|| pc|h8|pc|d9|pc|hK|pc|h7|pg|| pc|dJ|nt|mrdct: well i think that's it for this room|pg|| nt|by: thanks all|pg|| nt|mrdct: i will head over to the closed room to see the last couple of hands|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|c31|st||md|1SA974H3DJT9843CQT,ST532HKJ4D52CJ864,SKQJ6HQT762DQCK72,S8HA985DAK76CA953|sv|n|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ritong: unfavourable vul for a psych 1 nt|pg|| mb|1H|mb|p|nt|ritong: + small trap by susan:)|pg|| nt|reisig: 1N will work out well|pg|| nt|kareno: Stoppers are for children :)|pg|| mb|1N|an| |nt|vugraph7: we've changed ops... I'll have the names up in a minute|pg|| nt|vugraph7: >>>>>>>> Board 15|pg|| mb|p|mb|2C|nt|reisig: 2@h is over my head|pg|| mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|nt|kareno: Sounds like it's artificial.|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|pc|s5|pc|sK|pc|s8|nt|ritong: yes, three unexpected choices in a row is much|pg|| nt|vugraph7: nothing was alerted --- peter's explaining 2@S as "-shrug- forcing, good hand" |pg|| nt|reisig: 2@h artificial? A new idea|pg|| pc|s9|pg|| nt|vugraph7: NS are playing upsidedown attitude, standard count and suit pref|pg|| nt|kareno: Well it would never occur to me to bid 2@h natural on the west hand. Just 2nt seems about right.|pg|| nt|reisig: The shrug cue bids work better without screens|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|dK|pc|d3|nt|vugraph7: well, it was explained at the end of the auction when levin asked. =)|pg|| nt|ritong: wud be nice to finesse @h & begin w @d king|pg|| pc|d2|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h3|pc|h4|pc|h2|pg|| pc|h5|pc|d4|pc|hJ|pc|h6|pg|| pc|dT|pc|d5|pc|c2|pc|dA|pg|| pc|h9|pc|d9|nt|kareno: Really impressive declarer play on this hand.|pg|| nt|reisig: and bidding|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h7|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|c4|pc|c7|pc|d7|pg|| pc|d8|pc|s2|mc|10|pg|| qx|o32|st||md|2SKT9H4DAQT8632C87,SAQJ82HT9D75CQJ65,S7654HAQJ72DJCK92,S3HK8653DK94CAT43|sv|e|nt|vugraph bo: Board 32|pg|| nt|mrdct: 31 must still be in play in the other room|pg|| mb|2S!|an|!s+1m|mb|p|mb|2N!|nt|mrdct: of course there are still comparisons to come for the 1st 3 boards of the segment - so NTU fans shouldn't give up yet|pg|| mb|3D|mb|p|mb|3H|nt|mrdct: scary 3@H with no @D support|pg|| mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|cQ|nt|mrdct: this looks like it will go 3 or 4 off (maybe more)|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c3|pc|c7|pg|| pc|c6|pc|c9|pc|cT|pc|c8|pg|| pc|cA|pc|d2|pc|cJ|pc|cK|pg|| pc|c4|pc|s9|pc|c5|pc|s4|pg|| nt|mrdct: 6 off now|pg|| nt|mrdct: although east will have some difficult discards to find on the run of the @S suit|pg|| mc|5|pg|| qx|c32|st||md|2SKT9H4DAQT8632C87,SAQJ82HT9D75CQJ65,S7654HAQJ72DJCK92,S3HK8653DK94CAT43|sv|e|nt|vugraph7: >>>>>>>> Board 16|pg|| nt|by: no real difference, this imp|pg|| nt|mrdct: yes - i think -800 is still the magic number|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|3D|nt|mrdct: hard to see NS getting out of control now|pg|| mb|3S|mb|p|nt|by: E-W is careening out of control|pg|| mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|reisig: make 5 or 6|pg|| nt|by: even making this won't be enough|pg|| nt|noeye: The contract make is not enough|pg|| pc|c8|nt|kareno: No reason to eschew the club finesse.|pg|| nt|mrdct: making with an overtrick will tie the match|pg|| nt|by: needs a revoke, easy game, bridge|pg|| nt|mrdct: south just needs to hand on to his @Ss|pg|| nt|by: how about a few rounds of @c ending in hand, finessing @s, @sA, third round of @s?|pg|| nt|pjack: NTU need 3N+1 now|pg|| nt|noeye: i|pg|| nt|by: NTU needs a revoke|pg|| nt|noeye: tied score,who wins?|pg|| nt|by: I don't know, there is a tie-break rule|pg|| nt|mrdct: one would usually expect some overtime boards|pg|| nt|by: smart of north not to double|pg|| nt|mrdct: of course making 9 tricks here is no picnic|pg|| nt|mrdct: bugger is certainly taking his time|pg|| nt|mrdct: he may attack the @H suit early|pg|| nt|noeye: now E may regret that the 4H defense in the early Board 20,if they lose 1 IMP|pg|| nt|mrdct: NTU may also regret the 7@H hand that cost them 26 imps|pg|| nt|by: I think that it must be easier to hook the spade and hope for @sKxx on|pg|| pc|cQ|nt|mrdct: if he can sneak a @H through - that may be the 10th trick?|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c3|pg|| nt|mrdct: good non-cover by north|pg|| nt|by: not now, though|pg|| pc|h9|pc|h2|pc|h3|nt|mrdct: ah ha|pg|| pc|h4|pg|| nt|reisig: @h Q|pg|| nt|by: back to spades?|pg|| nt|by: I mean back to the black suits|pg|| nt|mrdct: i think @C hook now|pg|| nt|by: he takes 4@c 4@s @h and @d for an overtrick|pg|| nt|mrdct: might make 4@C, 4@S and 2@H|pg|| nt|mrdct: i hope the organisers have some overtime boards prepared!|pg|| nt|by: bugger would not be blamed if he does not make the overtrick, I think|pg|| nt|mrdct: and more importantly a hand data file to run the vugraph|pg|| nt|mrdct: 630 for EW will give then 10 imps and tie the match for any later-comers|pg|| nt|noeye: ok,now How about the tie-break rule|pg|| nt|mrdct: i'm told the organisers are looking around for the tie-break rule right now|pg|| nt|jmchen: if tie, then NTU loses|pg|| nt|by: in that case it does not matter :(|pg|| nt|jmchen: yeah|pg|| nt|by: wait, are they counting total points or winning number of boards?|pg|| nt|mrdct: is that because there are some decimal places in the carryover figure?|pg|| nt|jmchen: NCTU has more winning boards|pg|| nt|mrdct: unusual tie-splitting method - i prefer extra boards|pg|| nt|by: but the official rule is total points?|pg|| nt|jmchen: no time for play-off|pg|| nt|jmchen: they did look at the handbook of the tournament|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c9|pc|cT|nt|reisig: more reason to drop the @c K|pg|| nt|kareno: West known not to have both high @d honors (would have led one).|pg|| nt|ritong: yes|pg|| nt|ritong: @c king is in bad position now|pg|| nt|kareno: AND the Rabbi's Rule (the King of @c is always singleton) :-)|pg|| nt|ritong: makes two good reasons to drop it:)|pg|| nt|vugraph7: Levin is asking about EWs 2-level opening bids|pg|| nt|vugraph7: 2@D = 5+ @ds -- if only 5@D then also 4@C. 2@H/@S are natural weak 2s|pg|| nt|ritong: maybe levin has a feeling he can achieve all even with the @c Kx..|pg|| pc|c7|pg|| nt|mrdct: with the amount of time bugger takes to play one hand, it is no wonder there is no time for a play-off|pg|| pc|s3|pc|sT|pc|sJ|pc|s4|pg|| nt|reisig: Board-a Match makes all these tricks meaningful|pg|| nt|by: I suspect that you'll take some time if you have to play 3N on 20 hcps on the last board of an important match|pg|| nt|noeye: The set starts at 2:45 I think|pg|| pc|hT|pc|hA|pc|h5|nt|vugraph7: @HA, @H ruff, pitching a @D|pg|| nt|vugraph7: he just asked about the @H and claimed|pg|| nt|noeye: I think no overtrick now|pg|| nt|by: doesn't matter now|pg|| nt|mrdct: he had a chance for +2 there if he set up @Ss|pg|| nt|mrdct: 660 would've seen NTU wim the match|pg|| nt|by: no|pg|| pc|s9|pg|| nt|mrdct: hello!|pg|| nt|mrdct: was the a @S discarded?|pg|| nt|vugraphyin: ..... too loudly|pg|| nt|by: "right" would have done better to have discarded the @sK instead :P|pg|| pc|dJ|nt|mrdct: !K would be bad|pg|| nt|mrdct: @DK|pg|| nt|by: yes, but how could it win to cover?|pg|| nt|mrdct: @DQ to win the match|pg|| nt|mrdct: assuming bugger doesn't cover|pg|| nt|noeye: 430 is 10 IMP|pg|| nt|by: he will really be buggered if he does|pg|| nt|by: to use an aussie expression|pg|| nt|mrdct: i've seem some slow delcarers in my time - but i think bugger takes the cake|pg|| nt|mrdct: it's no wonder there's "bugger-all" time to play extra boards|pg|| nt|noeye: I think the board play time can make me dinner and take a bath|pg|| nt|mrdct: one fears that the longer he thinks about this the more likely he is to cover|pg|| nt|by: north already has @hAQJ and @cK ............... and is a passed hand|pg|| nt|mrdct: i didn't make a note of the time - but it feels like this has taken at least 20 minutes (so far)|pg|| pc|dK|pc|dA|nt|mrdct: he gets what he deserves|pg|| nt|mrdct: a well earned win for NCTU|pg|| nt|mrdct: oh bugger! (a spec just said)|pg|| mc|5|pg||