vg|Easter Teams day 1,Segment 1-7,I,1,28,Team 1,0,Team 2,0|
rs|3NW+1,3NW=,1NW-2,1NW=,3NW-2,3NW-2,1NS+2,2DN+2,7DE=,6DE+1,3NS=,3NS+1,4SE+2,4SE+2,2SW-2,2SW-2,6HW+1,6NW+1,3HE+1,2CS+1,6HW-2,4HE+2,4SW-1,3NE+2,5SN-1,4SN+1,2CE-2,2DS-2,1NS+4,2NS+1,1NW+1,1NE+1,3NE-1,3DE=,4SE+1,4SE-1,6HNx-3,6SE-1,4SW-1,4SE=,3DE-1,2DE=,4HE+1,4HW+1,2HN+1,1NN+1,3NS=,3NS+1,4HE-2,5DNx-2,2SN+2,3HW=,4HN-1,5CW=,3SE=,2SW+1|
pn|Sester,Trendafil,Jugandi,Karaivano,South,West,North,East|pg||
qx|o1|md|3S97HK9632DT7C8743,SKQT6HA8DQ54CAJT5,SAJ842HQ4DJ632CK9,S53HJT75DAK98CQ62|sv|0|
nt|Walddk4: All commentators enabled now
Walddk4: Miguel, Kai, Raija, Pekka and Harry
Walddk4: Kari
raija: hi all!
Walddk4: Welcome all
levis24: hi all, welcome
bagman: Hi all
Talion: hi all|pg||
nt|wiki: Hello everybody
wiki: Hello everybody 
Walddk4: We are in Jyväskylä in Finland
Walddk4: The first broadcast ever from the land of the 1,000 lakes
vugraph113: Hi all! Other team still not here. Will take maybe another 10 mins to get started.
raija: In Finland 4 card majors are standard, many play different strong club systems
wiki: actually   200.000 lakes :))|pg||
nt|Walddk4: Even better :-))
Walddk4: But I think it's known as 1,000, at least in Denmark
Walddk4: We call it  De 1,000 søers land
levis24: in Portugal also
wiki: yes   - also rallye of the 1000 lakes happens in JYväskylä
raija: i checked a couple of websites, the other one said 60.ooo and the other 190.ooo
bagman: Never trust anything on the net :)|pg||
nt|vugraph113: There's a web site for info, results and a web cam at http://people.cc.jyu.fi/~kepatana/easter/index.php .
wiki: I added the ponds also
raija: or anything printed either :)
Walddk4: Now let me ask you this: Did anyone count them? :-)
raija: i didn't i stopped 103,404
wiki: Yes they have been counted and I think it is 198000 lakes at least 1 m deep
raija: 1 m = 3 feet|pg||
nt|bagman: Anyhow, back to bridge. Seems that North South are Estonians. Jugandi has played in Estonian national team. EW are yet to show up
raija: hope they didn't miss the train to Jyvaskyla
Walddk4: Can anyone tell us about the hestory of this festival please?
Walddk4: history  even
bagman: No Raija, 1yard is 3 feet :)
raija: :)
vugraph113: We'll wait for the other table to play the board first.|pg||
nt|vugraph113: East West are from Bulgaria
wiki: this is 35. Eastrbridge 
Walddk4: Pekka, you won it before right?
bagman: Yes, also Raija
Walddk4: Raija did too I hear
Walddk4: 4 board matches are like MP
wiki: looks like EW could make 3 NT
Walddk4: Every overtrick counts|pg||
nt|Walddk4: any undertrick too for that matter
bagman: 4 board matches are more like lottery
bagman: in MPs you cannot lose 13 IMP
bagman: One slam swing cannot be compensated by an overtrick in next 2 @C
bagman: Is this IMPs?
wiki: Teams - I think   normal IMPs
vugraph113: Seems we start with board 3.
wiki: You find information from Jyväskylä at www.co.jyu.fi/bridge|pg||
nt|bagman: EW might be in trouble here. Duplication in clubs and bad heart break can mean a big penalty
vugraph113: The webcam sits on my side, so that's North's face you see.
Walddk4: Is it true that in Finland, N can ask for a redeal if he has less than 4 hcp, and W if he doesn't have a 5-5 shape? :-)
raija: of course Roland
raija: you don't do that in Denmark?
bagman: You can ask for a redeal any time you like!|pg||
nt|Walddk4: Only on April 1
Walddk4: But that is very soon!!
wiki: here is the word free - you can always ask anything:))
raija: yes, the April Fools' Day is once every year, just like Christmas :)
wiki: I ask everytime I have given 1400 for nothing - they never accept|pg||
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nt|Talion: EW dosent play 1NT after 1x pass pass here as 11-14. that is very common agreement in Finland
bagman: I think that the score is 5-0; the boards 2 and 3 being swapped
wiki: Board 3 they bid only 1 NT and made it 
raija: i usually play 11-15 (16) in balancing situation
wiki: so 7-0 should be right
raija: yes, that is where imps for NS came|pg||
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nt|bagman: Here are couple of overtrick IMPs at stake. W should make 10 or 11 tricks
raija: so what will the outcome be here?
wiki: possible 10 tricks with @D guess
wiki: I think she takes 9|
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nt|levis24: so, she doesnt like restricted choice
raija: 9 tricks is the first goal
bagman: She does not like risking her contract. It's not that much pairs :)
levis24: 1@S cold be 4 cards?
raija: and we have another push
levis24: could, i mean|pg||
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nt|wiki: as Bobby told me she could have played hearts for 10
raija: yes, and the hand wld have been over sooner
Talion: maybe A @H before last diamond would have yielded an overtrick for sure here ?
bagman: anyhow she made 10. Defense is difficult
raija: the result says she made 10 tricks|pg||

qx|o2|md|4SKT43HQT5DAK32CQT,SAQ2HA872DT74CAK3,S76HKJ4D986CJ9854,SJ985H963DQJ5C762|sv|n|
nt|wiki: well - now he knows  that he has only 5 hp not 8 [See board 3! -Editor]
bagman: timeout, E is consulting his kibs :)
wiki: actually  4 - too  many for me
raija: two 9's, mb that was the 5th point for you wiki
wiki: and good deal - Pekkinen  - as we call in Finland 4333
levis24: 1@S seems like a good contract : )
raija: the distribution is wonderful, you have support for all partner's suit|pg||
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nt|wiki: good lead - looks   1 down
Talion: this looks like -1
bagman: Strong clubbers always lead clubs in this sequence
raija: precision players? when partner opens 1@D you always lead a @C?
raija: you type faster Pekka
bagman: It is also hard for declarer to know who has clubs. Against me he generally knew because we had diamonds and he had the clubs and his contract|pg||
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nt|raija: suit preference for hearts
bagman: No I tend to lead diamonds even facing a potential doubleton opening
wiki: now it looks 2 down
bagman: Now|pg||
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nt|raija: 100 for ns
bagman: Thats 5 for NS and a huge lead in the match
wiki: ifk - lukko  1-3  (icehockey)  :(((
raija: i don't think we have the result from the closed room yet
bagman: If the movie scorecard is correct, the contract was made in the closed room
bagman: I guess I misread the scorecard|pg||

qx|o3|md|1SJ5HAJ97D43CT9654,SK76HK52DA872CK73,SAT932H6DKQJT5C82,SQ84HQT843D96CAQJ|sv|e|
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nt|bagman: Any guesses about the outcome? P-1D-1S-2H -> trouble
raija: strong club system?
levis24: 2@H seems to be the limit for e-w
bagman: HiLo double, I guess showing GF values
raija: do they play neg free bids? 
bagman: most likely they play neg free bids|pg||
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nt|bagman: Anyhow they avoided hearts and double
raija: yes, very well done in closed room, down only 2
Talion: 3NT was better for EW this time. at 4@H they would easily get doubled on this deal
raija: declarer is taking her time to plan the play
bagman: Looks like three down. Generally defense drops a trick, especially the 3rd undoubled undertrick
raija: if i understand correctly a in the end of a name = female in Bulgaria
bagman: so she might get a push board
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nt|bagman: No the A means -2
wiki: Maybe  N takes safety 2 down
raija: y, take the sure setting tricks
bagman: He has a pretty good idea that the contract will not make if he ducks, but it is IMPs|pc|sJ|pc|s6|
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nt|raija: he decided to wait
wiki: no - greedy  and right
bagman: Well done
Talion: now it might be better to claim -3|pg||
nt|bagman: He will get endplayed for his duck
bagman: cash clubs and play a diamond|
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nt|raija: yup, good card reading by the declarer
wiki: not a pay day for good nerves
bagman: S should have cashed HA, but that's against all principles
raija: so we will have a push here
bagman: well played, NW|pg||
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nt|wiki: want to see how high thet bid when they get cards
wiki: they
Talion: it wasnt good idea at all to claim -3 :)|pg||
nt|vugraph113: georgiev miss count his points thinking @CJ was @CK  swedishcards 
raija: ok, that explains forcing to game
raija: how many teams we have in this tournament?
bagman: He had no K to compare [Board 3 was the first played. -Editor]
Walddk4: aaah  it Had  Kn  on it
bagman: maybe he should have realized that K is not armed to the teeth (like the Kn is)|pg||

qx|o4|md|2SJT4H876DKJ95CAJT,SK63HKQJ2DQ83CK87,SAQ98HA9DA64C9653,S752HT543DT72CQ42|sv|b|
mb|1D!|mb|d|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pg||
nt|raija: doubling for take out with a min and 2 @H only
wiki: double - dummy 10  tricks in 3 NT :))  playing @Ds right
bagman: Anyhow being in NT instead of a minor gives at least one IMP here for NS
Talion: yes, but that is general style in estonia to double with 4-2 majors
raija: i never heard of that before
wiki: clubs are nicely - so  9 trivks  anyway
bagman: diamods are nicely also|pg||
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nt|raija: so we NS will gain an imp or 2 here
bagman: one IMP; 150 vs 130
levis24: so...how 8-1, how much is that in VP's?
raija: Operator, do you have the IMP scale?
wiki: I think 18-12 or 19-11|pg||
nt|wiki: we have a small pause  after 4 deals - hope not very long
bagman: Can anybody confirm that in the closed room EW bid 3NT with 21 hcp and 1NT with 24 hcp and 5-3 heart fit?
bagman: My guess is that the real score is 6-1
levis24: the imp scale i got begins with 8 boards, is there one for 4 boards?|pg||
nt|vugraph113: we are waiting new teams here
raija: can you pls tell us the outcome of this one?
vugraph113: today will be played 7x4 boards
wiki: take a look at www.co.jyu.fi/bridge  for results and  web camera
bagman: Is this the qualifying round for the finals tomorrow, as it used to be?
vugraph113: result was 18-12|pg||

qx|o5|pn|Darakchiev P,Kalma,Darakchiev S,Ostapenko|md|3S876HJ75D953CKJ53,SKHAT962DKJ872CAQ,S9432HK83DCT98764,SAQJT5HQ4DAQT64C2|sv|n|
nt|raija: thank you, and how many teams, 14 or more?
raija: how long will this break be?
vugraph113: break will be 5 minutes, until closed room will have 1 board played
raija: i don't think they have finals separately, just straight thru
vugraph113: A new 4 board match is starting very soon
wiki: enemmän media miehiä, ei osaa tehdö mitään kun on paha paikka
wiki: sry  private about icehockey
bagman: thx for the explanation :)|pg||
nt|raija: just forget abt icehockey for now wiki, let's look at some hands
wiki: ifk- lukko 2-3 at the moment :))|pg||
nt|raija: the first slam hand
bagman: looks like 7 @D
levis24: will they get to 7?
wiki: so it is 1-0  for Estland - not 8-2
raija: yes, can pitch the hearts on spades
bagman: Or if one miscounts the club finesse also works
bagman: also known as a practice finesse
raija: i wld hate being forced to take a finesse in a gran|pg||
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nt|levis24: W will be very hapy after 3@D from E
Talion: 7@D is excellent contract here. lets see if they bid it
bagman: seldom tried in seven, though
raija: blk for diamonds
raija: but prolly can't find out that they have 5 solid spade tricks|pg||
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nt|wiki: waude
raija: oops, he just jumped in there
bagman: Kalma has no way to ask about the spade solidity.
Talion: if Kalma knows that Osta is 5-5 for sure. then he knows that slam is at worst for @C finesse
wiki: they are not afraid - he really was happy with @SK  and right he was
raija: this was not a very scientific way to get there, but a very successful one it was|pg||
pc|d5|nt|raija: we shld see the claim pretty soon
bagman: A good rule for grand bidding: if you play and see 13 tricks or if partner plays and you see 14 tricks
raija: :))
raija: and the score is now 12-0 to Estonians
bagman: Often you bid a tight grand only to find out that the opponents stayed in game
wiki: 12-0 for Estland|mc|13|pg||

qx|o6|md|4SJ9HKJDKQ93CQT743,SAQT2HA982D82C965,SK873HT7DA74CAKJ2,S654HQ6543DJT65C8|sv|e|
nt|raija: ns might get to 3NT?
bagman: well done in the closed room
wiki: no juu - maine ei lähde  ja onhan siihen vähän aihettakin, mutta kylläkai toporowskin temppu oli aika ruma kanssa
raija: yes, must guess the hearts 
wiki: sry now I have no control - back to bridge
bagman: Played from south no problem
raija: right|pg||
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nt|bagman: Surprise N did not show the @C support after 2NT
raija: so the contract is right sided now 
wiki: can we get the old result away???
bagman: West might not lead a heart
Talion: NT is now on right hand now. no nasty @H gues at trick one. but still only 8 tricks if there is not helpfull lead|pg||
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nt|raija: here it comes
wiki: or is this still the same match - sorry??
bagman: Now there are nine and declarer can start working on the overtrick
bagman: which means running the long suit and hoping for a wrong discard
bagman: East has only diamonds to guard and now he can split the J10; should be 9 tricks|pg||
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nt|raija: ew didn't give any chances for an overtrick
raija: so 1 IMP gain for them
bagman: Ostapenko did well to discard all his hearts
raija: yes, he knew he was the only one who guard the @D suit
Talion: yes, after that Kalma knew that his hearts were good|pg||

qx|o7|md|1SQ2HKQJT3DQ32CQ83,SAT7643HDJ8CAJ765,SJ9H96542DA65CT92,SK85HA87DKT974CK4|sv|b|
nt|wiki: slow hand :))
levis24: another possible slam
raija: a very lucky, i don't think you want to be there, but it makes
bagman: Requires only spades, clubs and diamonds to behave; not bad at all well over 10%|pg||
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nt|raija: especially after the opps open the bidding it is very hard to find slams
bagman: If you can manage spades to Easts hand the odds multiply
raija: we just did, and very reasonably they stopped at the game level
Talion: yes, only small @D lead by Dazakchie put this slam in jeopardy. but they are right not to bid it
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nt|raija: i expect a push here 
bagman: He will take one trump and start clubs
bagman: other guesses?
wiki: it is under 20 %|pg||
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nt|raija: this was not what i thot he wld play next
bagman: I would have started clubs, but he started diamonds; anyhow always set up the side suit first|pg||
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nt|raija: claim time|pg||
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nt|bagman: he could have played it out to have a pair of eights in his hand in the end
raija: :)|pg||

qx|o8|md|2SK74HAQ82DT52CAJ4,SQJ853HJ74DQ64CQ2,S962HK96DKJ973C76,SATHT53DA8CKT9853|sv|0|
nt|raija: east will open in 3rd seat?
wiki: 2 @C?
levis24: i would
raija: i wld also|pg||
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nt|bagman: now they lost the clubs, i guess, unless they open this pattern always 1 @D
raija: i wonder what system they use
bagman: would have been a routine 2 @C or 1 @C opening for me
levis24: if S doubles they may find the @C
raija: double by south looks normal|pg||
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nt|raija: 2@D obviously natural here
bagman: A thinking South has support for all four suits :)
levis24: i dont like the 2@S bid st all...
raija: this went down 2 in closed room
bagman: W is better declarer than defender :)
raija: yes, that hand is much too soft
wiki: yes 2 @S is not good - only good thing is that nobody doubles it
raija: and you are not vulnerable|pg||
nt|bagman: Did he really think that he could make something after partner passed to 2 @D?
wiki: now we have 100 kibs:))
bagman: A good Lawrence (AFAIR) rule is that when you have wasted values, partner is minimum|pg||
nt|vugraph113: North thinking
bagman: When partner is minimum without fit, it's time to defend (if one can)
raija: i have another rule - bad hand = pass
levis24: thats a good rule : ))
bagman: when did you learn that?
wiki: do you play it??
raija: i am still taking lessons on that one :)|pg||
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nt|bagman: claim time|pg||pc|dT|pc|d4|pc|d9|pc|d8|pg||pc|d2|pc|d6|pc|dJ|mc|6|pg||
nt|raija: push again, and the score now, wiki?
wiki: so it is 12-0 to Estonia  and 19-11 I suppose
vugraph113: second match is over now, 8 minutes break after the next match start
Talion: 2@S was too much for sure. partner had A10 support & side ace an still -2. maybe he was just pushing his opponents around a bit ?
levis24: maybe the 1@S overcall promises just 4, and he had an urge to show the fith spade...|pg||
nt|raija: lucky he found that good spades in the dummy
wiki: unfortunately we have no other results - web camera and info at www.co.jyu.fi/bridge|pg||

qx|o9|
pn|Salomaa,Koivunen,Nyberg,Koivu|
md|3ST943HJ6D874CJ852,SJ85HQT985DACAK73,SK76H742DQJT95C94,SAQ2HAK3DK632CQT6|sv|e|
nt|vugraph113: this is a swiss movement, two leading teams will play
raija: here we have a Finnish table
vugraph113: now only waiting the result from the closed room|pg||
nt|raija: everybody else but Nyberg from Jyvaskyla?
bagman: Salomaa and Nyberg are both active BBO players (mikki and Clas 72)
wiki: Pekka has played some deals with Mikki
raija: Mikki (Salomaa) has represented Finland for decades, first in juniors and lately in the open
raija: Clas also played in the Finnish open team?
bagman: Clas has played a couple of times
wiki: yes  with Kauko Koistinen|pg||
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nt|raija: and we start with a slam hand again
bagman: Nyberg Salomaa is more of a casual partnership but they have played in BBO together|pg||
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nt|raija: hearts are trumps and cuebidding now, west must worried abt spade control, so 4@H might be a reasonable bid|pg||
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nt|wiki: good 6 NT - needs hearts 3-2 (or J singel) + extra chances in @Cs and @Ss
bagman: Compared to Salomaa - Nyberg, Koivu - Koivunen are much less known
bagman: Funny, does W know about spade control?
raija: i agree, pard cld have more values in @D and not so great spades
wiki: maybe 2 NT tells somethin :))
raija: QJ?
raija: i have the jack, so can't be that :)
levis24: if 2nt shows 18-19, @H, @D and @C can acount for 17|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|
nt|levis24: i dont think he can infer a @S control...
wiki: yes - could be Q10x but 4 NT clarifies
bagman: If 3 @S were a cue bid then 4 @C denied a spade control and thus 4 @D promised one
bagman: But is 3 @S a cue bid or a bid looking for direction?
wiki: true
raija: yes, you right shldn't cuebid @D without a spade control
levis24: right|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|d2|pc|d8|pc|dA|
nt|Talion: if 4@C was cue in their system (denies @S control) then 4@D promises 1@S & @D control|pg||
pc|h5|pc|h4|pc|hA|pc|h6|pg||pc|hK|pc|hJ|pc|h8|pc|h2|pg||pc|h3|pc|s3|pc|hQ|pc|h7|pg||pc|s5|pc|s6|pc|sQ|pc|s4|
nt|raija: is there a spade diamond squeeze now?
wiki: yes if he plays @SJ - Bobby told it 10 minutes ago, I am slow|pg||pc|d3|pc|d4|pc|hT|pc|d5|pg||pc|cA|pc|c4|pc|c6|pc|c2|pg||pc|c3|pc|c9|pc|cQ|pc|c5|pg||pc|cT|pc|c8|pc|c7|pc|d9|mc|13|nt|levis24: well done
raija: no squeezes
[The play was recorded incorrectly (due to fast play - sorry): @cT was covered, and there was in fact the @d-@s squeeze. -Editor]
raija: push|pg||

qx|o10|md|4S2HAQ8D9762CAJ754,ST9753HK42DAKJ8C8,SAQJ86H93DT43CT63,SK4HJT765DQ5CKQ92|sv|b|
nt|wiki: maybe  they get to  4 @Hs  now [This board was played last. -Editor]
raija: NS have Osmo Kiema and Lasse Utter as teammates, both of whom have been in Finnish top bridge for a very long time
raija: The teammates of EW are Mika Kananen from Helsinki and Yrjo Tolvanen from Pieksamaki
raija: and they were not the favorites to win this match|pg||
mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|
nt|wiki: everything right it is possible to make this|pg||
pc|d6|pc|d8|pc|dT|pc|dQ|pc|cK|pc|cA|pc|c8|pc|c6|
nt|wiki: good start  to play @C K
bagman: Declarer simply has enough tricks and too few losers
Talion: eh, i would have bidded 4@H after 2@C, but maybe i am too young or aggressive or stupid :)|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|h3|pc|h6|pg||pc|h8|pc|h4|pc|h9|pc|hJ|pg||pc|h5|pc|hQ|pc|hK|pc|s6|pg||pc|dA|pc|d3|pc|d5|pc|d2|
nt|wiki: so 6 IMPs to EW and  22-6
raija: check the right box?
bagman: Now declarer will pitch his clubs and play spade up
bagman: making 10 in the end
levis24: after opening the hand, i think he should, the doubleton K in @S should be good|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|d4|pc|c9|pc|d7|pg||pc|dK|pc|s8|pc|c2|pc|d9|pg||pc|s3|pc|sA|pc|s4|pc|s2|mc|10|
nt|wiki: so it it 7 imps  and  22-7 [After all 4 boards. -Editor]|pg||

qx|o11|md|1SK75H53DQT65CK865,SJ84HAKT97DKJ743C,SAQ96H62D98CT9432,ST32HQJ84DA2CAQJ7|sv|0|
nt|raija: didn't find a spade lead in closed room
bagman: It's four or six hand|pg||
mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|2N!|an|limit-stenberg|mb|p|mb|3D|mb|p|
nt|bagman: If they bid above 4 @H they should go all the way to 6
levis24: a zia cue would work nicely now : )|pg||
mb|4C|mb|p|mb|4D|mb|p|
nt|wiki: maybe it is easier to lead @SA  against 6 @Hs ??
raija: now he cuebids without a spade control
bagman: This probably  answers the question in the previous hand :)
raija: which partner also denied if i understand correctly
bagman: Maybe they are getting to that page|pg||
mb|5D|mb|p|mb|5H|mb|p|mb|6H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|
nt|Talion: eh, perhaps Koivu hasnt denied @S control because of Koivunens 4@D bid....
wiki: maybe 4@D gives only  5-5 ?  but I do not like it anyway
levis24: @S lead for sure now
bagman: Too late to deny the spade control
raija: here is a chance for NS to get a lot of imps
bagman: Well done, as they were already too high|pg||
nt|wiki: Clas has 11 imps in his hands
raija: yes, somebody will gain a lot :)
bagman: Well it aint over even with a heart lead, I think
wiki: nobody has cuebidded  @Ss
bagman: or is he forced to take the ruffing finesse
raija: yes, but west has sorta promised a spade cue, imo|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s2|pc|s5|pc|sJ|
nt|raija: wd Clas!
wiki: yes actually 22 imps  as I was corrected
levis24: good lead
bagman: Clas does not believe that EW understood all the inferences
bagman: When nobody cues spades, then nobody has the control :)
raija: isn't that the truth, at least here and now|pg||
pc|s6|pc|s3|pc|sK|pc|s4|pg||pc|s7|pc|s8|pc|sQ|pc|sT|pg||pc|c2|pc|cQ|pc|cK|pc|h7|pg||pc|hA|mc|10|pg||
nt|wiki: so 11-0  for  NS
bagman: Yes. KISS-principle
wiki: keep it simple and stupid :))
raija: yes dear :)|pg||

qx|o12|md|2SQT62HQ65DA932CJ3,SKJ93HT73DQ85CAK2,S85HAJ9D764CT8764,SA74HK842DKJTCQ95|sv|n|
nt|raija: 1@S-p-2@C?
wiki: HIFK-lukko  2-5  , Ilves -Jokerit  1-3 (icehockey)
bagman: EW did well to make 11 tricks in NT in the closed room|pg||
mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|
nt|raija: oops, 2@H didn't cross my mind
bagman: You bid your longest suit :)
wiki: interesting 2 @H with 4 cards|pg||
mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|4H|
nt|bagman: Now he will get the heart support
raija: good guess
bagman: Koivu wants to bid 3NT now|pg||
mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|
nt|wiki: no slam
bagman: Is this 4 @S a cue?
bagman: Or was it bid with a sigh :)
wiki: could be one down
bagman: has to pick the spades to make
raija: not easy
bagman: requires some table presence
bagman: or rubberneck|pg||
pc|d4|pc|dT|pc|dA|pc|d5|pg||pc|cJ|pc|cA|pc|c8|pc|c5|pg||pc|s3|pc|s5|pc|sA|pc|s6|pg||pc|s4|pc|s2|pc|sJ|pc|s8|
nt|bagman: note Salomaa's trump echo to show three :)|pg||
pc|sK|pc|c6|pc|s7|pc|sT|pg||pc|dQ|pc|d7|pc|dJ|pc|d2|pg||pc|d8|pc|d6|pc|dK|pc|d9|pg||pc|cQ|pc|c3|pc|c2|pc|c4|pg||pc|c9|pc|h5|pc|cK|pc|c7|
nt|wiki: well well - 6-2  -  could be wake up for decl.
bagman: now he needs QJ singleton in hearts
wiki: or A reno
bagman: or a lucky coup en passant for his @S 9|pg||
pc|h3|pc|h9|pc|hK|pc|h6|
nt|bagman: Heart up; ace then the club to "force" declarer :)
wiki: you know Mika better :)))|pg||
pc|h2|pc|hQ|pc|hT|pc|hJ|mc|9|pg||
nt|wiki: so  22-0  for NS
raija: good try after the accidents in the bidding|pg||
nt|raija: and this was the last hand of this match, waiting for the new one to start
raija: Pls do not look at the scores on the top left, they are not accurate
wiki: 15 imps is about 19-11 I guess
raija: how do you come to 22-7, you penalizing somebody for slow play?
wiki: 11+11 = 22  and 7 for EW  = 22-7 ??|pg||
nt|vugraph113: wow, our first results at http://people.cc.jyu.fi/~kepatana/easter/results.php
wiki: and you find it also  via  www.co.jyu.fi/bridge
levis24: raija thought you said 22-7 in VP´s, right? : )
wiki: IMPs -   result  is 19-11  I suppose
levis24: thats what i thought too
raija: yes, that was what i thot|pg||

qx|o13|pn|Salomaa,Kalma,Nyberg,Ostapenko|
md|3SA5HAQ7DAKT7CAKT6,SKJ2HKT62D964CQ72,SQT9843H98DQ53CJ5,S76HJ543DJ82C9843|sv|b|
nt|raija: Finland - Estonia now
levis24: in an 8 board scale it would be 20-10, so here should be a little more
raija: Go Finns, Go!
wiki: Nyberg has  23 from the 1st match
raija: the first board being played in the closed room now
raija: and we now have it here
wiki: yes - 19-11 was a guess|pg||
nt|bagman: now we have the 1st chance to see Salomaa Nyberg bid. They are a casual partnership and let's see how they handle this
wiki: they play natural
bagman: They most likely play 4 card majors according to Finnish modern standard
levis24: 6@S may be on...|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|
nt|raija: not good enough for me to bid 2@S with that
wiki: yes @Ds 3-3  6 @Ss should be on - not a good slam
bagman: 2 @S might get them too high
bagman: 6NT makes, 6 @S might be harder with a heart lead|pg||
mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|4C|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|
mb|4N|mb|p|mb|5C|mb|p|
nt|bagman: Now Salomaa is wondering where the positive response might be|pg||
mb|5S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|raija: but he did well to pass
raija: or to stop i mean
bagman: He did well to stop if he wants to play spades
levis24: could this be a "i want to play" positive bid?|pg||
pc|h4|pc|hQ|pc|hK|pc|h8|pg||pc|h2|pc|h9|pc|hJ|pc|hA|
nt|wiki: If there were entries -  best way to play @Ss is Q from hand 
raija: i think that the first responsibility is to let the strong hand talk
raija: when you don't have a big suit yourself
bagman: They do not have a sophisticated system. Salomaa plays strong club with me (Bart Simpson) and Nyberg plays Magic Diamond
raija: Bart Simpson is a home made Finnish strong club system
wiki: Now it is loosing play of course|pg||
pc|d7|pc|d4|pc|dQ|pc|d2|pg||pc|sQ|pc|s6|pc|s5|pc|sK|pg||pc|hT|pc|s8|pc|h3|pc|h7|pg||pc|s3|pc|s7|pc|sA|pc|s2|mc|10|
nt|wiki: good play - bad result
raija: and Magic Diamond was created by Hans Gothe?
bagman: Too much knowledge :)
raija: from Sweden
bagman: Göthe or Andersson (I think it was Lars Andersson who invented the Magic switch)|pg||
nt|wiki: so 13-0  for EW
bagman: The worst way to start a match
raija: my rooting is not doing so good, so maybe i will change sides
bagman: Especially this short
raija: yes, it is over when you lose big time on the first hand
bagman: Opps can do the same in the three next, you win by 26|pg||
nt|bagman: just concentrate and keep playing
raija: never give up!
bagman: It's bad but it's not over
wiki: it is bad not to have new cards - just sitting and waiting for a new deal
bagman: Well, it might give time for NS to recover
raija: but gives you a little time to get your mind calm|pg||

qx|o14|md|4SKJH842DA962CA985,SA9H93DKJ84CKJ762,S862HAQT7DQT53CQ3,SQT7543HKJ65D7CT4|sv|0|
mb|2C!|an|54+majors |mb|p|
nt|bagman: both majors?
raija: 2@C showing majors?
wiki: good guess Raija :))
raija: quite easy when you see the hand :)|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|pg||pc|c5|pc|c2|pc|cQ|pc|c4|
nt|bagman: A routine lead in this auction
raija: text book lead|pg||
pc|c3|pc|cT|pc|cA|pc|c6|pg||pc|d6|pc|dJ|pc|dQ|pc|d7|pg||pc|d3|pc|s4|pc|dA|pc|d4|
nt|bagman: They are taking all their tricks
wiki: good defence  gives   back about 5 imps|pg||
pc|d2|pc|dK|pc|d5|pc|s3|pg||pc|cK|pc|s8|pc|h5|pc|c8|pg||pc|cJ|pc|h7|pc|s5|pc|c9|pg||pc|d8|pc|dT|pc|s7|pc|d9|pg||pc|hT|pc|hJ|pc|h4|pc|h3|
nt|raija: and gaining 5 or so imps?
bagman: That's it. Nyberg did not grab his HA  too early :)|pg||
pc|sT|pc|sJ|pc|sA|pc|s2|mc|6|
nt|wiki: so 13-5  
raija: it aint over until it is over!
bagman: two boards to go|pg||

qx|o15|md|1SAJT76HKT6DAT4CK3,SQ952HJ75DK96CQ52,SHQ942D7532CAT987,SK843HA83DQJ8CJ64|sv|n|
nt|raija: this is the last hand for this match [Board 16 was played before 15. -Editor]
raija: and south was playing 2NT with an overtrick
bagman: They will stay in 1NT, I guess
raija: wld be my guess too|pg||
mb|1N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|
nt|wiki: I know now :))
bagman: 4th from longest and strongest|pg||
pc|s2|pc|d2|pc|sK|pc|sA|
nt|bagman: S wins and will pass the @H 10
wiki: 9 tricks is  quite much
bagman: S is wishing that EW were attitude leaders
bagman: So E would not know the length|pg||
pc|hK|pc|h5|pc|h2|pc|h3|pg||pc|hT|pc|h7|pc|h4|pc|h8|pg||pc|h6|pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pc|hA|
nt|wiki: Pekka knows Mikki very well and also it is the best play
bagman: and now a spade back :)|pg||
pc|s8|pc|sJ|pc|sQ|pc|c7|
nt|wiki: @S 8  was not the best choice
raija: and mikki is thankful for that|pg||
pc|s9|pc|d3|pc|s4|pc|sT|pg||pc|s7|pc|s5|pc|c8|pc|s3|pg||pc|s6|pc|c2|pc|d5|pc|c4|
nt|levis24: +4 now
bagman: He has a minor suit squeeze position here
raija: he will gain another imp here
levis24: make that 2|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c5|pc|c9|pc|c6|pg||pc|c3|pc|cQ|pc|cA|pc|cJ|pg||pc|cT|pc|d8|pc|d4|pc|d6|mc|11|
nt|wiki: now 10 tricks rolls in and  1 IMP so the IMPs (Raija!!) are 14-6
raija: no objections :)
bagman: It should not have worked, obviously
raija: and the victory points?
bagman: Salomaa made 6! It's 3 imps
bagman: sry 5|pg||
nt|levis24: he made 5, 2 imps : ))
bagman: yes
raija: but the victory points?
levis24: 17-13 in an 8 board scale
levis24: i would guess 18-12 here
raija: ty|pg||
nt|wiki: sry I was writing did not see :((  so it is 14-7 and 18-12  (I guess again) 
raija: and we are waiting for new victims
wiki: Sitting here in Helsinki having no material :((
wiki: Pls see also  web camera and results and teams at  www.co.jyu.fi/bridge
levis24: does anyone here have a 4 board imp scale?
vugraph113: round 1 results corrected, r3 added at http://people.cc.jyu.fi/~kepatana/easter/results.php|pg||
nt|vugraph113: there you go: http://people.cc.jyu.fi/~kepatana/easter/4jakoa.doc
wiki: this is the 35th Jyväskylä Easter Bridge - Jyväskylä is a nice University town  250 km north of Helsinki
levis24: I must leave now, taking a little trip to Iceland, have fun
raija: ty levis!
bagman: ty|pg||
nt|levis24: bye all
wiki: situated in the north coast of the lake Päijänne (3rd biggest of the 198000 lakes in Finland)
wiki: bye levis|pg||

qx|o16|md|2S85HJ943DK972CK83,SAT9H82DQJ6CAQJT5,SKQ43HKT65DAT4C97,SJ762HAQ7D853C642|sv|e|
nt|raija: nothing exciting happening on this hand|pg||
mb|1N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pg||pc|s4|pc|s2|pc|s8|pc|s9|pg||pc|cQ|pc|c7|pc|c2|pc|cK|pg||pc|d7|pc|dQ|pc|dA|pc|d3|
nt|bagman: Making sure of 7 tricks (unless clubs are 5-0)
raija: always a good thing to do in imps|pg||
pc|dT|pc|d5|pc|d2|pc|dJ|
nt|bagman: Now he will make at least 9 tricks
bagman: He can afford to take the heart finesse and he will do it|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c9|pc|c4|pc|c3|pg||pc|cJ|pc|h6|pc|c6|pc|c8|pg||pc|cT|pc|s3|pc|h7|pc|h3|pg||pc|c5|pc|h5|pc|d8|pc|h4|
nt|bagman: Or he can set up the spades as he does now
bagman: no, no time for that
raija: they wld cash 2 diamonds|pg||
pc|sA|pc|sK|pc|s6|pc|s5|pg||
nt|bagman: He found my line :)
raija: :))
levis24: : )|pc|sT|mc|8|pg||
nt|wiki: so  13-5  for EW|pg||

qx|o17|pn|Salomaa,Karaivanov?,Nyberg,Trehdafilov?|
md|3S76HA987DA32CJT96,SAJ9HJT63DQJ5CQ75,SQT52H542D76CA843,SK843HKQDKT984CK2|sv|0|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|
nt|wiki: so here we go again
raija: new treatment to - what was 2@S?
bagman: In the closed room EW stopped nicely in 3 @D
hedyg: hello:)
cascade: This is a weak 1NT|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|c5|pc|c3|pc|cK|
nt|bagman: This should go down now
raija: We have another team from Bulgaria in the spotlight now
bagman: E had an easy duck as NS play 0/2 higher
raija: the Finns were in 3@D making in the closed room, possible gain here|pg||
pc|d4|pc|d3|pc|dQ|pc|d6|pg||pc|dJ|pc|d7|pc|d8|pc|dA|pg||pc|cT|pc|c7|pc|c4|pc|c2|pg||pc|c6|pc|cQ|pc|cA|pc|s3|pg||pc|c8|pc|s4|pc|c9|pc|h3|
nt|bagman: He will cash the HA now.
raija: that is the setting trick!
wiki: so 1 down and 4 imps to finns
cascade: he will get it even if he doesnt cash it
Talion: good standard lead. after anything else than a club lead declearer would hahe had much better changes
bagman: That is the reason why he will cash it
bagman: sure, but I know him. He cashes it.|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h6|pc|h2|pc|hQ|mc|8|
nt|raija: 160 so only 4 imps
wiki: the imps  for team 1 and 2 are wrong - so pay no attention to them
cascade: tough to lose IMPs bidding a 25 point failing game
raija: yes, a good reminder, thx wiki
wiki: thanks for the scale - we still need it|pg||

qx|o18|md|4SA65HQ42D873CQJ97,S842HJT73D6CAKT83,SJ9HA96DKQ542C652,SKQT73HK85DAJT9C4|sv|n|
mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|
nt|cascade: that looks to be an aggressive game invitation
raija: i wld say so too
bagman: A kib just informed me that EW are Vantcev - Ivanchev. Can anybody confirm?
raija: that is the other pair of this team|pg||
mb|4H|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|
nt|cascade: he bought a good dummy and favourable spades
bagman: He might make this for a 10 IMP gain|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|cA|pc|c6|pc|c4|pg||pc|d6|pc|dK|pc|dA|pc|d8|pg||pc|d9|pc|d3|pc|s2|pc|d2|pg||pc|cK|pc|c2|pc|h5|pc|c7|pg||pc|c3|pc|c5|pc|s3|pc|c9|pg||pc|dT|pc|d7|pc|s4|pc|d4|
nt|raija: yes, he is on his way making it
cascade: now he has to guess the hearts|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|h6|pc|hK|pc|h4|
nt|raija: he did
cascade: or ruff the third diamond|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|cJ|pc|s8|pc|d5|
nt|bagman: now an overtrick?
cascade: he gets both
Talion: nicely played so far
cascade: better to pitch his diamond i think and then he can afford two heart losers if the spades come in|pg||
pc|cT|pc|sJ|pc|h8|pc|h2|
nt|raija: if we are not sure abt his name, we can see he is a bridge player
bagman: He cannot claim, as he does not know the spade layout (yet)
bagman: Salomaa can think as long as he likes but there are only two aces for them left
wiki: at least he knows who has  @S9|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|sK|pc|sA|pc|h3|mc|11|
nt|raija: very well done
bagman: Now the question is how did it go down in the closed room?
wiki: so 11 imps  and 11-4 for EW|
nt|wiki: @S lead is good start
Talion: if you play like that, you can afford to make some light game invitation bids :)
wiki: maybe @Hs and @S back ??
raija: so much depends on the lead|pg||

qx|o19|md|1SHK94DAQT43CAKQ87,SAKQJ9743HA73DK2C,SHQT865DJ986CT432,ST8652HJ2D75CJ965|sv|e|
nt|raija: some spade fit here
wiki: some fire  here
cascade: lets hope they don't defend - ruff sluff on the opening lead ;-)|pg|
|mb|1D|mb|d|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|4H|
nt|raija: 6@S is doomed
cascade: Interesting most pairs would play 1@H only shows four hearts
bagman: NS are probably not aware that they have so few hearts|pg||
mb|4S|mb|5H|mb|p|mb|6H|mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|
nt|raija: and so is 6@H
cascade: good save 
raija: looks like a 9 imp swing
cascade: but not when 6@S bid in the other room|pg||
pc|c5|pc|cA|pc|h3|pc|c2|pg||pc|sJ|pc|d6|pc|s8|pc|h4|pg||pc|hK|pc|hA|pc|h6|pc|h2|pg||pc|h7|pc|hT|pc|hJ|pc|h9|pg||pc|d5|pc|d3|pc|dK|pc|d8|mc|9|
nt|raija: it was more
wiki: 12 imps to Bulgaria
raija: yup
raija: and one more hand in this match
raija: 23-4 to Bulgaria
wiki: so it is 23-4 imps or 23-7 vp  and last board|pg||

qx|o20|md|2S87HKT7642D964CK3,SAKQJ5HA85D8CQJT6,S432HQJ9DKQ32CA82,ST96H3DAJT75C9754|sv|b|
nt||
mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|
nt|raija: ruffing heart, pulling the trumps and starting the clubs?
wiki: 1 or 2 @H ruffs and 10 or 11 - probably 10|pg||
pc|s2|pc|s6|pc|s7|pc|sA|pg||pc|hA|pc|h9|pc|h3|pc|h2|pg||pc|h5|pc|hJ|pc|s9|pc|h4|pg||pc|dA|pc|d9|pc|d8|pc|d2|pg||pc|d5|pc|d6|pc|s5|pc|d3|
nt|wiki: looks like he bravely takes 11 tricks and  wins 1 MP and the match 24-6 instead of 23-7|pg||
pc|h8|pc|hQ|pc|sT|pc|h6|pg||pc|c4|pc|c3|pc|cJ|pc|cA|pg||pc|dK|pc|d7|pc|d4|pc|sJ|pg||pc|cT|pc|c2|pc|c5|pc|cK|
nt|bagman: going one down now?
raija: looks like that|pg||
pc|hK|pc|sQ|pc|c8|mc|9|
nt|Talion: eh, raijas line sounds better than this
wiki: sry-  he really  took one  ruff too much
raija: easy from here when you see the cards :)
wiki: I was sure of 10 safe tricks
raija: so 23-16 for Bulgaria, victory points?
wiki: so it was 12 imps to finns|pg||
nt|Talion: yes, but when this line sucseeds over that one heart ruff + trumps then line ?
bagman: 18-12
wiki: and 18-12
raija: ty
raija: we have two more matches today
wiki: so we have   8 deals for to-day after some minutes|pg||
nt|vugraph113: Next round will be paired after round 4.
raija: you mean we have a longer break now?
vugraph113: Nyberg vs Puolustajat (the Defenders) then, maybe? :)
vugraph113: No, should start soon.
raija: i know Mika is an optician, what does Clas do for living?
wiki: again - see  web camera and results at www.co.jyu.fi/bridge
raija: Finland is a bilingual country, the swedish speaking people are minority
raija: but English is spoken very well all over in Finland, so the tourists are very comfortable|pg||
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qx|o21|pn|Kiema,Nurmi,Utter,Erkkilä|
md|3SKT92HQJ53DA7C953,SJ653HA96DQ93CQT7,SQ87HT842D42CAKJ8,SA4HK7DKJT865C642|sv|n|
nt|wiki: So we have new players - Erkkilä is playing in Nordic Championships next summer in Finland  and Nurmi for Ladies
wiki: Finland open I mean -  Championships are played in Denmark
raija: here we have 2 Finnish teams, NS is the other part of Salomaa Nyberg team
wiki: Utter is the team leade of Finland in Denmark
raija: Jorma Valta and Pekka Vihtila are playing NS in the closed room|pg||
nt|wiki: new deal please  - we start again from 0-0
raija: Both Valta and Vihtila have represented Finland several times
raija: as soon as we get the board from closed room we will see it here
raija: here we go
raija: looks like a well handled auction in the closed room
wiki: EW is playing Bart Simpson Club
wiki: NS Carrot club|pg||
mb|p|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|p|
nt|raija: north wanna balance now?
wiki: Pekka knows Bart very well|pg||
mb|d|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|3D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|
nt|raija: well done by NS
bagman: Nicely pushed. This earns NS 4 imps.
bagman: of course, they have to defeat this first :)
wiki: yes - 3 @D is 1 down and 4 imps difference soon
Talion: yes. utters balancing double was the key of sucsess for NS team
wiki: I think it is self destroying :))|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|h6|pc|h2|pc|hK|pg||pc|dT|pc|d7|pc|d3|pc|d2|pg||pc|sA|pc|s2|pc|s3|pc|s8|pg||pc|s4|pc|sT|pc|s5|pc|sQ|
nt|bagman: North could have cashed CK to prevent accidents
bagman: but it is very hard to see how they could let this make|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c2|pc|c9|pc|c7|
nt|raija: not too late
Talion: utter cashes @C to clarify to partner what to play when he gets in
Talion: K
wiki: yes make it easy to your partner
reisig: hi hi:)
Talion: yes. erkkilä was going down on this anyway, but notice utters defence. thats good bridge|pg||
pc|s7|pc|dJ|pc|s9|pc|s6|
nt|wiki: Hi Richie
bagman: hi R
reisig: Hei Wiki:)
reisig: hiya Pekka:)
raija: hei hei pomo :)@H
reisig: hei kulta @H:)|pg||
pc|h7|pc|h3|pc|hA|pc|h4|pg||pc|h9|pc|hT|pc|d5|pc|h5|pg||pc|d6|pc|dA|pc|d9|pc|d4|pg||pc|c5|pc|cT|pc|cJ|pc|c4|pg||pc|cA|pc|c6|pc|c3|pc|cQ|mc|8|
nt|wiki: so 4-0 for Utter
raija: another reminder, the scores on the top are not accurate, just listen to wiki|pg||

qx|o22|md|4SK643H5DJ963CQJT4,SAQJ2HAQ72DQ82CK2,S975HJ643DT7CA765,ST8HKT98DAK54C983|sv|e|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1D|
nt|reisig: A lot of IMPs flying around here
bagman: EW are not playing Bart Simpson Club as Erkkilä did not open
wiki: no - they are old imps - this is 4-0 only|pg||
mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pg||
nt|raija: the same contract found here
bagman: Easy lead for Kiema
reisig: easy everything here
wiki: so that was wrong - they informed to play that but maybe they have changed|pc|cQ|pc|c2|pc|c5|pc|c3|pg||pc|c4|pc|cK|pc|cA|pc|c8|pg||pc|c7|pc|c9|pc|cT|pc|h2|pg||
nt|wiki: Now  decl gets the @Hs right easily
Talion: if utter had K of @S then there might be some guessing....
bagman: Is there a way defenders can help declarer go wrong in hearts?
Talion: about trumps
bagman: If they play three rounds of clubs, he is forced to do the right thing|pc|hA|pc|h3|pc|h8|pc|h5|pg||pc|hQ|pc|h4|pc|h9|pc|cJ|pg||
nt|wiki: play @Ds now
bagman: If they do not, what would declarer think then?
raija: we will never know
Talion: eh, i dont see any advantage of ducking that first club. sometimes Kiema might tried to lead from AQJ or something ?|pg||
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nt|raija: claim coming up
bagman: the spade finesse might not work another time :)|pc|s8|pc|s4|pc|sA|pc|s9|pg||
nt|bagman: squeeze works :)
wiki: squeesing S
raija: nicely done
wiki: well played|pc|h7|pc|h6|pc|hT|pc|d6|pg||pc|hK|pc|s6|pc|sJ|pc|hJ|mc|11|
nt|wiki: so 4-0 still
raija: yes, this was a push
raija: The Finnish ladies team will be very young this year i heard
wiki: you can see Utter and Kiema at www.co.jyu.fi/bridge - I do not mean there is  much to see:))|pg||
nt|wiki: not younger that you - are you not 27??
raija: unfortunately not, i turned 39 a few years ago and that's where i will stay
wiki:  about 24 to 35 I suppose|pg||

qx|o23|md|1SQJ862H932DQCA965,ST3HA85DT9762CJT2,S75HKJT6DAK84CQ84,SAK94HQ74DJ53CK73|sv|b|
mb|p|mb|p|mb|1H|
nt|raija: carrot club also uses 4 card major openings
bagman: balanced minimum hands are opened with a four card major in Carrot Club|pg||
mb|d|
nt|reisig: I don't like that X
bagman: 13 hcp and support for all suits :) (I don't like it either)|pg||
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nt|Talion: with passed partner, Erkkiläs D is dangerous. sometimes you pay big number for that action
raija: i second all that
wiki: me neither - would never double on that
bagman: OTOH, if you do not enter now, you will not dare to balance at the 2 level|pg||
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mb|p|mb|p|pg||
nt|raija: so can Utter make this one?
bagman: DF can, don't know about Utter
reisig: hard to defend this hand
wiki: I'm chicken (and reasonable) at least when I am supposed to be commentating
Talion: yes. good thing about doubling the 1@H is that you will get your hand "out of your chest"|pc|sA|pc|s2|pc|s3|pc|s5|pg||pc|c3|pc|c5|pc|cT|pc|cQ|pg||pc|s7|pc|sK|pc|s6|pc|sT|pg||
nt|wiki: I think Utter can  this one also
raija: he knows where the spade length is
bagman: Yes, it's very difficult to give 4 tricks away
wiki: Ok there are two passes in the row but there are also balances available
bagman: actually might be 1 overtrick IMP for NS|pc|c7|pc|cA|pc|c2|pc|c4|pg||pc|dQ|pc|d7|pc|d4|pc|d5|pg||pc|sQ|pc|h5|pc|h6|pc|s4|pg||pc|dA|pc|d3|pc|c6|pc|d2|pg||
nt|bagman: not might, will be
reisig: 100%
wiki: now there is 9 tricks and 1 imp to Utter|pc|dK|pc|dJ|pc|c9|pc|d6|pg||pc|d8|pc|cK|pc|h2|pc|d9|pg||pc|sJ|pc|cJ|pc|c8|pc|s9|pg||pc|h9|pc|h8|pc|hJ|pc|hQ|mc|9|
nt|wiki: sp 5-0 to Utter
wiki: 17-13 at the moment
bagman: 1 IMP is 1/2 of a matchpoint|pg||

qx|o24|md|2SK52HA9643D765CK9,SAT873HK8DKQ4C653,SJ6HQTDA32CAQJT42,SQ94HJ752DJT98C87|sv|0|
nt||mb|1S|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|
nt|raija: easy auction
raija: lead?
raija: @DK?
reisig: @Dq
wiki: lst deal for this match - 9 tricks makes it 16-14, 10tricks 17-13|pg||
pc|s3|pc|sJ|pc|sQ|pc|sK|
nt|bagman: A @D would have made declarer's task harder. Now it's a quick claim.
wiki: not 1st  but last deal - so after some minutes last 4 deals to-day
raija: this was the penultimate match today, a few mins and we will have the last one
reisig: Is that close to -- next to last?
raija: something like that
reisig: :)))|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h8|pc|hT|pc|h2|mc|9|
nt|vugraph113: Puolustajat vs someone last round tonight.
raija: thx
raija: can't find that team on the list
wiki: i think it is the team of Nurmi Erkkilä  etc.
vugraph113: match will be puolustajat  against bridge+
bagman: Yes, they won this last year|pg||
nt|bagman: Yes, they won this last year
raija: oh, ok, they are on another name on the list
raija: and Bridge+ is the Bulgarian team we already saw here
wiki: Puolustajat  means title holders, so Nurmi Erkkilä obviously won last year
raija: they have a tough field here, wishing good luck to the defenders
wiki: once more - web camera and results at www.co.jyu.fi/bridge|pg||

qx|o25|
pn|Valta,Trendafil,Vihtilä,Karaivano|
md|3SJT53HJT8732DJ4CJ,SK8762HKDK2CAKT86,SQ9H5DAQ98763C752,SA4HAQ964DT5CQ943|sv|e|
nt|raija: Pekka Vihtila in the picture now
wiki: if we get Vihtilä-Valta here they are playing  two-way club
bagman: Valta-Vihtilä are a long time parnership
wiki: yes they are here|pg||
nt|reisig: 2 way @C - with 14-16 NT?
raija: they started in the juniors?
wiki: I do not their NT
bagman: Vihtilä did not play when junior
wiki: know
wiki: I thought he still is|pg||
nt|reisig: 1@C is 11-13 bal or 17+ any?
bagman: everybody is junior to you, wiki :)
vugraph113: 14-16NT
wiki: yes  - you know POs
reisig: Indeed!
wiki: not my grandma|pg||
nt|wiki: have you not played 2way @C with PO??
vugraph113: 1@C 11-13NT or 17+ :)
reisig: Very often
wiki: yes I thought so
reisig: He plays the slower variety:))
wiki: the slowest|pg||
nt|raija: slow but well!
wiki: he plasy too slow club
wiki: plays
raija: :))) actually he played very fast in Orlando, finished a few times before the other room
wiki: of course|pg||
mb|3D|
nt|raija: the first hand up now
bagman: did you have Weichsel in the team? :)
reisig: no
wiki: If somebody does not know  PO is the great star of Sweden - PO Sundelin|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|3S|
nt|reisig: How's 3@S?|pg||
mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pg||
nt|raija: 5@C wld have been a better contract
wiki: veru difficult to find 5 @Cs|pg||
nt|bagman: Some trump problems here
wiki: Valta is satisfied
reisig: Maybe better to bid 3N in last seat
raija: yes, don't double the contract you know you will beat
bagman: Vihtilä is thinking if Valta has  @S A
wiki: it is more practical and now would have been very good|pc|dJ|pc|dK|pc|dA|pc|d5|pg||
nt|bagman: Eventually he's gonna play a diamond
reisig: 3@S is great if you have a fit ..otherwise ..a disaster|
pc|dQ|pc|dT|pc|d4|pc|d2|pg||pc|s9|pc|sA|pc|s3|pc|s2|pg||pc|h4|pc|h2|pc|hK|pc|h5|pg||
nt|bagman: honest length signal in hearts by Valta
Talion: at beginning of the hand, Valta was palnning to to bid some weak 2@H . but now he is defending against opponents 4@H :)
Talion: maybe planning|pc|c6|pc|c7|pc|cQ|pc|cJ|pg||
nt|wiki: difficult after 3 @D  with this kind of hands
raija: that's what the preempts are for
raija: making the life for opps difficult|pc|hA|pc|h3|pc|s6|pc|d8|pg||pc|c3|pc|h7|pc|c8|pc|c2|pg||pc|s5|pc|sK|pc|sQ|pc|s4|pg||pc|cA|pc|c5|pc|c4|pc|h8|pg||pc|sJ|pc|s7|pc|d3|pc|h6|mc|8|
nt|raija: 11 imps for NS
wiki: 3 boards to go|pg||

qx|o26|md|4S53HJ32DQJ643CA95,SA8HAQT6DA8CQT743,SKQJ942H75DK75CJ8,ST76HK984DT92CK62|sv|b|
nt||mb|p|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pg||
nt|bagman: one of the killing leads
raija: this will produce another swing
wiki: another swing - 2 @S seems to me like 8 tricks
reisig: not much
reisig: -100 looks normal|pc|dT|pc|d3|pc|dA|pc|d7|pg||
nt|wiki: now @D ruff is gone  :))
bagman: Anyhow they have to defend carefully to beat it (diamond ruff and a club switch)
reisig: now 110|pc|cT|pc|cJ|pc|cK|pc|cA|pg||pc|s3|pc|sA|pc|s2|pc|s7|pg||
nt|reisig: or more:))
bagman: overtricks coming now
wiki: I did not see the @D lead|pc|d8|pc|dK|pc|d9|pc|d4|pg||
nt|raija: 7 imps?
reisig: yes
wiki: 310 is 7 imps and now 18-0  or 23-7
reisig: EW not doing so well|pc|sK|pc|s6|pc|s5|pc|s8|pg||pc|sQ|pc|sT|pc|c5|pc|c4|mc|10|pg||

qx|o27|md|1SQ5HQJ962DQ753CQ2,SK964HD84CJT98653,SAT73HAKT854DT2C4,SJ82H73DAKJ96CAK7|sv|0|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|2D|mb|3D|an|inviting|
nt|bagman: This limit or better?
raija: i wld just bid 3@H with all those queens|pg||
mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|
nt|wiki: nice deal - 3 @Hs NS and 4 @Cs for EW but how to find @Cs
raija: another gain for the Finns, they made 5@C in the closed room
bagman: well bid here but for wrong reasons :)|pg||
pc|dK|pc|d3|pc|d4|pc|d2|pg||pc|cA|pc|c2|pc|cJ|pc|c4|pg||pc|dA|pc|d5|pc|d8|pc|dT|pg||
nt|bagman: No he does not believe that this got ruffed|pc|cK|pc|cQ|pc|c3|pc|h4|pg||
nt|raija: down 1 - that shld be 8 imps
reisig: The mountain is growing
wiki: in clubs you loose only 2 spades so 5 @Cs is makeable - sorry again|pc|hA|pc|h3|pc|h2|pc|c6|pg||pc|hK|pc|h7|pc|h6|pc|c5|pg||pc|h5|pc|c7|pc|hQ|pc|c8|pg||
nt|raija: so coming to the last board of the day the score is 26 to finland
bagman: Now the Chinese finesse in spades?
bagman: Bad luck, he covered :)|pc|sQ|pc|sK|pc|sA|pc|s8|pg||pc|s3|pc|sJ|pc|s5|pc|s4|mc|9|nt|raija: wiki, was that correct?
wiki: 350 is 8 so it is 26-0 and 25-4
raija: waiting for the last board to come
reisig: Is the bar open?
raija: and see you all tomorrow at 7 pm Finnish, 6 pm CET 
bagman: In Finland it's open during the play
reisig: :)))|pg||

qx|o28|md|2S62HQ985DACAQJT97,SA8543HT74D9852C6,SQT9HK32DT763CK83,SKJ7HAJ6DKQJ4C542|sv|n|nt|wiki: NS can make 3 @Cs so maybe one swing more|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|1C|mb|2C!|
nt|vugraph113: tour director asked in the 5@C closed room, in that previous hand
raija: but they stole Valta's suit
raija: pls keep us posted what is happening there
wiki: EW can make 3 @Ss anyway|pg||
mb|2H|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|2N|mb|p|
nt|raija: 2NT shows that he also has another suit?
wiki: now it in the wrong hand so @D A and small @C beats 3 @Ss
vugraph113: tour director didn´t change the result in that 5@C
raija: so we have correct scores, thank you|pg||
mb|3C|mb|3D|mb|p|mb|3S|
nt|raija: Vihtila is taking a long time before bidding
wiki: Nihtilä should know that they have  good scoring and take it easy - no Doubles
reisig: He wants to bid 3N|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|
nt|raija: let's see if the find the killing defense here
bagman: Now it's up to Valta
wiki: well done - thinking probably 3 NT
reisig: They did fine!|pg||
nt|bagman: unlucky lead, costing a trick
raija: yes, @D wld have been a risky lead|pc|h8|pc|h4|pc|hK|pc|hA|pg||pc|s7|pc|s2|pc|sA|pc|s9|pg||pc|s3|pc|sT|pc|sK|pc|s6|pg||pc|dK|pc|dA|pc|d2|pc|d3|pg||
nt|wiki: anyway  no big deal - 25 at home and 25-4 is the result of our last match
reisig: Got a push anyway:)
raija: so tomorrow's starting times 19.00 in Finland, 18.00 in Paris, 12 noon in NY
raija: welcome to join us again!
reisig: and feeding time for the alligators here
|pc|hQ|pc|h7|pc|h2|pc|hJ|pg||pc|cA|pc|c6|pc|c3|pc|c4|pg||pc|cQ|pc|s4|pc|c8|pc|c2|pg||pc|d5|pc|d6|pc|dJ|pc|c7|mc|9|pg||
nt|wiki: thanks all kibitzers 
bagman: ty all
raija: we hope to have to scoring corrected tomorrow
reisig: bye bye ..see you tomorrow)
wiki: and thanks for everybody els also
raija: so we don't need wiki's abacus :)|pg||
nt|bagman: bye, see you tomorrow
raija: thank you all very much! bye for now :)
wiki: byebye  results  once more  www.co.jyu.fi/bridge
Talion: tx all|pg||