vg|2004 Reisinger,2nd Final,B,1,28,Team 1,0,Team 2,0| rs|3NW=,3NE=,3HN-1,3DS-1,2SN+1,2HN+1,4HN+1,4HN+1,4DS=,4DS=,4HN+2,4HN+2,1NW+3,3NW-1,1NN-2,3HW=,2SS-1,3DE=,3NN+1,3NN+1,4SN=,4SN=,3NE+1,3DE+2,4HW+2,3NW+2,5CEx=,3CE+2,3NW+2,3NW+2,2DNx-2,2DE=,3CW=,3SSx-2,4CE=,4CE=,3SEx=,3HNx-2,2NW-2,2SE-1,6NE=,6CE=,3HEx-1,3DE-1,6NE=,6NE=,4SE+1,4SE+1,4SS+2,4SS+2,4HS=,4HS=,,,,| pn|Soloway,Passell,Hamman,Wold,Hampson,Meckstrot,Greco,Rodwell|pg|| qx|o1|st||md|3SKT632HAJ982DJ92C,SQ74HK7DK74CKJT97,SA85HQT6DQT653C82,SJ9H543DA8CAQ6543|sv|o|nt|kareno: Welcome back to the Reisinger BAM Teams from Orlando.|pg|| mb|p|mb|1C|an|may be 2|nt|ritong: hello and welcome all|pg|| nt|kareno: Waiting to hear who is playing on Viewgraph this evening.|pg|| nt|ritong: yopur commentators: david bird from england tim bourke from australia|pg|| nt|ritong: sooo...:)|pg|| nt|dinos1: hi all|pg|| nt|brolucius: Hi, everyone!|pg|| mb|3C|an|majors; weak or strong|nt|timb: hi|pg|| nt|kareno: Hello all|pg|| mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|h6|nt|ritong: okay seems to rock and roll have fun, folks :-)|pg|| pc|h3|pc|hA|pc|h7|pg|| pc|h9|pc|hK|nt|kareno: A good practical bid by west and a fine contract.|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h4|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c2|pc|c3|nt|timb: does anyone know the scores?|pg|| pc|s3|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|c8|pc|c4|nt|brolucius: Nine tricks and no chance of any more. Hardly worth playing it out. |pg|| nt|ritong: i m pretty certain our operator will give ius the standings as soon as possible|pg|| nt|kareno: Sorry no. Hopefully Viewgraph can help with that.|pg|| pc|d9|pg|| pc|cT|pc|s5|nt|timb: the only reason not to claim is to tire the opponents|pg|| pc|c5|nt|vugraph9: i think closed room operator has scores|pg|| nt|kareno: Truly, this is a hand for a claim at BAM or matchpoint or IMPs.|pg|| pc|s2|pg|| pc|c7|pc|s8|pc|cQ|pc|s6|pg|| pc|cA|pc|d2|pc|c9|pc|d3|pg|| nt|timb: don't the rules have something about "unnecessarily prolonging play"?|pg|| pc|c6|nt|brolucius: I thought only players over the age of 72 played such deals out|pg|| nt|timb: this would surely qualify|pg|| nt|kareno: They do, Tim.|pg|| nt|kareno: With no realistic possibility of an overtrick, I don't know why Bizon is playing on.|pg|| nt|ritong 1: piotr bizon is an astrophysician|pg|| nt|ritong 1: maybe he likes to observe ALL|pg|| nt|kareno: A spaced out doctor?|pg|| nt|brolucius: Lindkvist has kept the cards to deal with any eventuality|pg|| pc|h2|pc|s4|pc|d5|pg|| pc|dA|pc|dJ|pc|d4|pc|d6|pg|| pc|d8|pc|h8|pc|dK|pc|dT|pg|| nt|kareno: Now he's thinking? |pg|| nt|brolucius: These guys see possibilities that are excluded to us lesser mortals|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|c1|st||md|3SKT632HAJ982DJ92C,SQ74HK7DK74CKJT97,SA85HQT6DQT653C82,SJ9H543DA8CAQ6543|sv|o|nt|ritong: hello & welcome all|pg|| nt|poohbear: hi all|pg|| nt|ritong: your commentators :carol simon, barry goren & tom sanders USA|pg|| nt|csimon: hi Henri & Barry and specs|pg|| nt|poohbear: 14 team teams left|pg|| nt|csimon: and Tommy|pg|| nt|vugraph7: Hello everyone --- Susan here. The players are just beginning to filter over to the tables|pg|| nt|vugraph7: I'll have the current standings in a moment.|pg|| nt|tsanders: Welcome all to the final segment of the Reisinger|pg|| nt|tsanders: Hello Carol and Barry|pg|| nt|poohbear: hi tommy , carol , henri|pg|| nt|poohbear: and Susan|pg|| nt|tsanders: Many experts consider board-a-match the most exacting form of the game. Equal weight is accorded each deal and every trick is important when scoring is board-by-board. Scoring is 1 ...|pg|| nt|tsanders: point for winning the board, 1/2 point for a tie, and 0 for losing it.|pg|| mb|p|nt|tsanders: It resembles match points except 1 is top, 1/2 is tie, and 0 is ..0|pg|| mb|1N!|mb|2C!|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|h2|nt|poohbear: 9 top|pg|| pc|hK|pc|hT|nt|vugraph7: *laughing*|pg|| nt|poohbear: but NS missed a good save in 4 of a major|pg|| nt|csimon: well played :)|pg|| nt|poohbear: trix that is:)|pg|| nt|vugraph7: best claim I've seen all day --- bocchi tossed down his 9 winners, and then threw his 4 last cards next to them|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|o2|st||md|4SA62HT3DAKT765CAJ,SK943HKDQJCT98542,SJ75HA86542D83C76,SQT8HQJ97D942CKQ3|sv|n|mb|p|mb|1C|an|weak nt or str any or 11-16 short d|nt|brolucius: Restricted Choice will not apply to the diamonds here (even if the heart entry is still intact). Declarer cannot deal with single honor offside. |pg|| mb|p|mb|1D|an|weak (?)|mb|p|nt|kareno: In a diamond contract he can certainly remove the threat of losing two diamond tricks by the restricted choice play.|pg|| mb|1N|an|17-19(20)|mb|p|nt|kareno: I'd guess n/s will end up in hearts, though.|pg|| mb|2C|nt|brolucius: Declarer has no option but to play for the drop in diamonds, it seems. RC does not apply.|pg|| mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|2H|an|inv w/5|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|nt|brolucius: North is inviting game in hearts opposite a (very) strong NT|pg|| nt|kareno: South hasn't got a VERY strong notrump.|pg|| nt|kareno: Presumably he'll pass.|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|brolucius: He is adding points for the excellent diamonds|pg|| nt|kareno: He can add more after they break conveniently.|pg|| nt|brolucius: E-W have plenty of time to get at their black suit tricks before the diamonds can be run.|pg|| nt|kareno: However, he cannot fetch nine tricks in hearts. |pg|| nt|dinos1: 1 round of trumps - and @d for discards|pg|| nt|dinos1: 9 tricks if play @d top|pg|| pc|sT|nt|brolucius: Yes, that's a good point. West cannot ruff the third diamond.|pg|| nt|kareno: Actually he can do well if he stops drawing trumps at one round and plays on diamonds. He'll take three diamonds, two aces and four hearts if he can figure out to do that.|pg|| nt|brolucius: Excellent opening lead that word have worked if North held J-9-x (a SURROUND play)|pg|| pc|s2|pc|sK|pc|s5|pg|| nt|dinos1: cd take 10 :)|pg|| pc|s3|pc|sJ|pc|sQ|pc|sA|pg|| nt|kareno: Now if he takes only one round of hearts and plays on diamonds he'll get home with nine tricks.|pg|| pc|dA|pc|dJ|pc|d3|pc|d2|pg|| nt|kareno: Yes, ten tricks if he plays only one round of hearts now.|pg|| nt|brolucius: He might duck a trump now|pg|| nt|dinos1: no - if take 1st @s|pg|| pc|h3|pc|hK|pc|hA|pc|h7|pg|| nt|brolucius: Restricted Choice states that the jack of diamonds is likely to be singleton|pg|| nt|dinos1: only then 10 tr|pg|| pc|h2|pc|hJ|pc|hT|pc|c2|pg|| nt|brolucius: Now he has no entry to finesse in diamonds|pg|| pc|s8|pc|s6|nt|kareno: Well, they can now cash a spade.|pg|| pc|s4|nt|dinos1: def has 5 tr|pg|| pc|s7|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|cA|pc|c4|pc|c6|pg|| pc|dK|pc|dQ|pc|d8|pc|d4|pg|| pc|dT|pc|c5|nt|timb: easier when you see all four hands|pg|| nt|dinos1: he played for more probable 2-2 in reds|pg|| nt|kareno: So it is a push board.|pg|| nt|dinos1: going to lose 2@h and 2@s|pg|| nt|kareno: 3@h and 2@s|pg|| nt|dinos1: though if take 1st spade then wd make if 2-2 or 2-1 in reads|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|c2|st||md|4SA62HT3DAKT765CAJ,SK943HKDQJCT98542,SJ75HA86542D83C76,SQT8HQJ97D942CKQ3|sv|n|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|3D|mb|p|mb|p|nt|poohbear: 3nt and 3 @d have the same 9 trix|pg|| mb|p|pc|c9|pc|c6|pc|cQ|pc|cA|pg|| pc|cJ|nt|poohbear: However it is possible to misguess @D at BAM in imps no play but to play AK since 4-1 cant be picked up|pg|| nt|tsanders: Italians, World Champs, are on O'Rourke team; NS, both Polish born, on Lev team|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c7|pc|cK|pg|| nt|poohbear: in Bam might play for 8 tricks instead of 7 or 9|pg|| pc|d2|pc|dT|pc|dJ|pc|d3|pg|| nt|poohbear: this dun by cashing a high @d and crossing to dummmy to lead a @D to the 10|pg|| pc|hK|pc|hA|pc|h7|pc|h3|pg|| pc|d8|pc|d4|pc|dA|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|dK|pc|c4|pc|h5|pc|d9|pg|| pc|d7|nt|poohbear: then of course they dont listen to me:)|pg|| pc|s3|pc|h4|pc|h9|pg|| pc|d6|pc|cT|pc|h6|pc|hQ|pg|| pc|d5|nt|vugraph7: norby is making snoring noises|pg|| pc|c8|pc|h2|pc|c3|pg|| pc|hT|pc|s4|pc|h8|pc|hJ|pg|| nt|poohbear: awake now|pg|| nt|csimon: we will have a long wait now & Bocchi can finish his nap :)|pg|| nt|vugraph7: For sure -- 10 minutes left in the round.|pg|| nt|vugraph7: Okay ---- I have the standings after this afternoon's session|pg|| nt|vugraph7: **********************************************|pg|| nt|vugraph7: 1. Nickell 21.38 /// 2. Brachman 20.44 /// 3. Bertheau 16.07 /// 4. Welland 15.91 /// 5. Schwartz 15.51 /// 6. Cayne 15.24 /// 7. O'Rourke 14.38 /// 8. Lev 14.24 /// 9. Jacobs ...|pg|| nt|vugraph7: 14.13 /// 10. Wildavsky 13.04 /// 11. Sanborn 12.84 /// 12. Meltzer 10.81 /// 13. Roren 10.54 /// 14. Mossop 9.67|pg|| nt|vugraph7: *****************************************************|pg|| nt|csimon: 2 teams have a 4 board lead on the rest of the field - pretty impressive!|pg|| nt|poohbear: and very hard to catch now that you only get 2 more boards against them|pg|| nt|poohbear: instead of 3|pg|| nt|poohbear: decimals due to carryover from yesterday|pg|| nt|ritong: hey susan|pg|| nt|ritong: i have an italian request|pg|| nt|vugraph7: hello henri =)|pg|| nt|csimon: Nickell had a huge final 6 boards or so to pass the Brachman team who was leading by 4 boards|pg|| nt|vugraph7: I have norberto and giorgio right here|pg|| nt|ritong: italian people wud like to know the italian pairs who play in the final|pg|| nt|vugraph7: That I can manage. :)|pg|| nt|ritong: i am sure you are the right person to ask that ;-))|pg|| nt|vugraph7: The italian pairs remaining in the field are:|pg|| nt|vugraph7: Fulvio Fantoni and Claudio Nunes, playing on the Bertheau team|pg|| nt|vugraph7: Giorgio Duboin and Norberto Bocchi playing on the O'Rourke team|pg|| nt|vugraph7: Alfredo Versace and Lorenzo Lauria playing on the Jacobs team|pg|| nt|poohbear: any americans left?|pg|| nt|vugraph7: Andrea Buratti and Massimo Lanzarotti on the Schwartz team|pg|| nt|csimon: not many Barry|pg|| nt|ritong: grazie mille ragazza @h|pg|| nt|vugraph7: np henri @H|pg|| nt|vugraph7: oops -- prego ragazzo|pg|| nt|csimon: the 4M save was missed at the other table too|pg|| nt|vugraph7: I have my north-south pair: Zia and Michael. =)|pg|| nt|ritong: is sam lev on, susan?|pg|| nt|vugraph7: Was for Round 1|pg|| nt|ritong: ah, no|pg|| nt|vugraph7: >>>>>>>>>>> Round 2 <<<<<<<<<<<|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|o3|st||md|1S5H432DKJT76CQT85,SKQ9HT97D942CA742,SAJT872HAJ85DCK93,S643HKQ6DAQ853CJ6|sv|e|mb|2D|mb|p|nt|brolucius: We are seeing some of the world's best players here. Many thanks to BBO!|pg|| mb|2S|an|Non Forcing|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s4|nt|brolucius: 2@S is probably invitational. That is a common treatment. |pg|| nt|brolucius: Yes, South has passed.|pg|| pc|s5|pc|sQ|pc|sA|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s3|pc|h2|pc|sK|pg|| pc|h9|pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pc|h3|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h4|pc|h7|pc|hA|pg|| pc|sT|nt|kareno: This hand plays well for declarer because the defense really has no suit to get its teeth into.|pg|| pc|s6|pc|d6|pc|s9|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c6|pc|c5|nt|kareno: And the lie of the cards is friendly.|pg|| nt|brolucius: Any opening lead by East was likely to cost a trick. The trump lead certainly did.|pg|| pc|cA|pg|| pc|hT|pc|h5|pc|h6|pc|c8|pg|| pc|d4|nt|kareno: Garner and Weinstein have gotten to their best contract.|pg|| pc|s2|pc|d3|pc|d7|pg|| pc|s8|pc|d5|pc|dT|pc|d2|pg|| pc|h8|pc|d8|nt|kareno: And yet there really was no good lead for east.|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d9|pg|| pc|c9|pc|cJ|pc|cQ|pc|c2|pg|| nt|dinos1: @cJ|pg|| nt|brolucius: Both N-S pairs achieve perfection with +140.|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|c3|st||md|1S5H432DKJT76CQT85,SKQ9HT97D942CA742,SAJT872HAJ85DCK93,S643HKQ6DAQ853CJ6|sv|e|mb|p|mb|p|nt|vugraph7: As the Italians were heading over, Zia slapped his hand on the table and said "Hurry up, he (Michael) might take a long time"|pg|| mb|1S|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|cJ|nt|csimon: have Michael & Zia had any time penalties, Susan?|pg|| nt|tsanders: and this might take a little while to play|pg|| nt|poohbear: this looks like it will play very well|pg|| nt|vugraph7: Not to my knowledge. :)|pg|| nt|tsanders: that lead helps declarer|pg|| nt|poohbear: especiallly after that lead|pg|| pc|cQ|nt|csimon: hard to make the 'automatic' trump lead with Lauria's holding|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c3|pg|| nt|poohbear: on board 2 3 hearts went down 1 though it had a chance to make|pg|| nt|poohbear: I would carol for lack of anything better|pg|| nt|poohbear: rare to see dummy table dbltn spade|pg|| nt|swanson: Declarer could actually have made 10 tricks in hearts by winning the spade lead, taking one trump and leading diamonds from the top.|pg|| nt|vugraph7: The Welland team (NS) is currently in 4th place with 15.91; the Jacobs team (EW) is currently in 9th with 14.13|pg|| pc|s5|pc|sK|pc|sA|pc|s4|pg|| nt|ritong: hi john welcome|pg|| nt|swanson: Hi|pg|| pc|s7|pc|s6|pc|h2|pc|s9|pg|| nt|tsanders: Welcome to John Swanson, US expert|pg|| nt|csimon: hi John :)|pg|| nt|swanson: The agressive line is to lead a trump back to hand, ruff another spade and lead a club.|pg|| nt|poohbear: probably just play a club at this point|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h7|pc|hA|pc|h6|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s3|pc|h4|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|c5|pc|cA|nt|csimon: Michael agrees with John|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c6|pg|| pc|c7|pc|c9|pc|hQ|pc|c8|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d6|pc|d9|pc|h5|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|hK|pc|d7|pc|c4|pg|| pc|d3|pc|dT|pc|d4|pc|s8|pg|| nt|poohbear: making 3|pg|| nt|csimon: well done - and fast!|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|o4|st||md|2ST86HAKQTDA2CJT54,SK97532H92DJ96CQ2,SQJ4HJ7654DKQ87CA,SAH83DT543CK98763|sv|b|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|nt|kareno: When it's possible, we would love to know the standings at the break. Thanks!|pg|| mb|2N|an|limit riase or better|mb|p|nt|brolucius: Yes, you are right, a club would be best because declarer guessed that suit anyway|pg|| nt|brolucius: 2NT shows a game force in hearts|pg|| mb|3C|an|any minimum|mb|p|nt|brolucius: 3@C shortage (4@C would be a second long suit)|pg|| nt|brolucius: Oh dear, I am wrong............|pg|| nt|kareno: Not what the board says.. 3@c any minimum.|pg|| mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|sA|nt|brolucius: Any minimum and then perhaps 3@D will ask for shortage. But South has heard enough anyway.|pg|| pc|s6|pc|s2|pc|s4|pg|| nt|kareno: Actually, my agreements indicate presence of singletons but we don't show them unless partner asks. I think too much information is given the defense by automatically showing ...|pg|| nt|kareno: which singleton each time.|pg|| nt|brolucius: That's a good point|pg|| pc|c9|pc|c4|pc|c2|pc|cA|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h3|pc|hA|pc|h2|pg|| nt|kareno: I suspect the 2 of @s was suit preference. It's generally a good idea to give suit preference when you know partner is leading a short suit.|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h9|pc|h5|pc|h8|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d6|pc|d7|pc|d3|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d9|pc|dK|pc|d4|pg|| nt|brolucius: How does partner know you have the king, then, when he is leading from A-x? |pg|| nt|kareno: West knows partner is leading a short suit. |pg|| nt|brolucius: Perhaps A-x and he has to tell partner if he has the king|pg|| nt|kareno: If partner is leading from Ax he will no doubt continue - but if it is singleton A he needs to know how to get to you for the ruff.|pg|| nt|brolucius: Yes, that's true|pg|| nt|kareno: Or partner leads any singleton and you haven't got the ace - it's important that he knows how to get to you once he gets the lead, say, with his trump trick.|pg|| nt|brolucius: Here the @DA was visible, so a club was the only chance anyway. |pg|| nt|kareno: This is when you can diagnose that the lead is from shortness.|pg|| nt|kareno: Yes, there was no trump entry for the defense when dummy had AKQ :-)|pg|| nt|brolucius: Everyone is playing/bidding well and all the boards are flat.|pg|| nt|brolucius: Karen, are we watching a multi-table final, or a two-team final. I don't know the format. Presumably as the names changed, it is multi-table. |pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|c4|st||md|2ST86HAKQTDA2CJT54,SK97532H92DJ96CQ2,SQJ4HJ7654DKQ87CA,SAH83DT543CK98763|sv|b|nt|swanson: Too bad declarer didn't hold the @H9 rather than the nine. Worth another trick on the trump coup.|pg|| nt|swanson: rather than the 8|pg|| mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|3C!|nt|poohbear: Lauria coulda just let his pard ruff the trick:)|pg|| mb|p|mb|3D!|an|unidentified shortness|mb|p|mb|3H|an|asks|mb|p|nt|swanson: he didn't|pg|| nt|poohbear: 3c is 4 trump support GF|pg|| mb|3S|an|some shortness|mb|p|mb|3N!|an|ask|nt|vugraph7: these are all alerted|pg|| nt|poohbear: 3d probably shows a singleton and Zia asked|pg|| nt|ritong: they are inquiring a lot with few material...|pg|| mb|p|mb|4C|mb|p|mb|4D|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ritong: good|pg|| nt|swanson: Could someone repeat the standings after this afternoon's session?|pg|| mb|p|nt|poohbear: 11 tricks since the defense cannot untangle its spade ruff|pg|| nt|csimon: it looks like all roads lead to 11 tricks|pg|| pc|sA|nt|vugraph7: 1. Nickell 21.38 /// 2. Brachman 20.44 /// 3. Bertheau 16.07 /// 4. Welland 15.91 /// 5. Schwartz 15.51 /// 6. Cayne 15.24 /// 7. O'Rourke 14.38 /// 8. Lev 14.24 /// 9. Jacobs ...|pg|| nt|vugraph7: 14.13 /// 10. Wildavsky 13.04 /// 11. Sanborn 12.84 /// 12. Meltzer 10.81 /// 13. Roren 10.54 /// 14. Mossop 9.67|pg|| pc|s6|pc|s2|pc|s4|pg|| pc|c8|nt|swanson: Looks like a two-horse race.|pg|| nt|vugraph7: funny you should say that....|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|cQ|pc|cA|pg|| nt|poohbear: lol|pg|| nt|ritong: heh|pg|| nt|poohbear: inside joke John. You should get here earlier:)|pg|| nt|vugraph7: Versace: @C singleton? Zia: absolutely singleton (jokingly-- maybe AK doubleton) Versace to Michael: why you put the @CJ if @SA singleton? :P|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h3|pc|hA|pc|h2|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c2|pc|h5|pc|c3|pg|| pc|h6|nt|poohbear: Italians are on the Jacobs team Zia rosenberg on Welland team|pg|| pc|h8|pc|hK|pc|h9|pg|| pc|c5|nt|vugraph7: I need to talk to these guys about their card flipping :)|pg|| pc|s3|pc|h7|pc|c6|pg|| nt|csimon: the Welland team is the same players that represented the US in Istanbul|pg|| pc|d7|pc|d3|pc|dA|pc|d9|pg|| nt|poohbear: Rosenberg trying to combine dummy reversal with a squeeze but lacks entries|pg|| pc|cT|pc|s5|pc|hJ|pc|cK|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d4|pc|d2|pc|d6|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|c7|pc|s8|pc|sK|pg|| nt|swanson: With Versace and Lauria replacing Martel-Stansby.|pg|| nt|csimon: sorry - plus zmudzinski & Balicki instead of Levin/Weinstein|pg|| nt|vugraph7: shouldn't be too long before the next round|pg|| nt|tsanders: we have now witnessed 4 pushed boards|pg|| nt|ritong: susan, if sam lev passes by..|pg|| nt|poohbear: all of them have been exciting|pg|| nt|ritong: please transmit him michael elinescu's greets|pg|| nt|poohbear: Ar ewe now HALLMARK?|pg|| nt|csimon: it seems like the cumulative scores that are shown in the movie belong to no particular team - they are just a bunch of results at this table|pg|| nt|poohbear: correct|pg|| nt|vugraph7: >>>>>>>>>>> Round 3 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|o5|st||md|3SAT6HT8DAT9732CQ3,S8532HAQ65DQ8C854,SJHJ742DKJ4CKJT72,SKQ974HK93D65CA96|sv|n|mb|p|mb|1S|nt|brolucius: Yikes! Now we have the very best in the world!|pg|| nt|kareno: These are two of the absolutely best pairs in the world!|pg|| mb|p|mb|2S|an|alerted|mb|d|mb|p|mb|3D|nt|kareno: Sontag and Weichsel are playing again together after a long hiatus.|pg|| nt|brolucius: I am told that 14 teams remain and the camera floats (so Team 1/2 score at top left is not relevant)|pg|| nt|kareno: On Rose Meltzer's team.|pg|| mb|3S|mb|p|mb|p|nt|kareno: Well, that's good as we will get to see the best against the best!|pg|| nt|brolucius: I watched them in London, in the 1970s, wearing flower-power velvet jackets|pg|| nt|dinos1: X or 4@d?|pg|| mb|4D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s8|nt|kareno: Weichsel's double was a pre-balance, the short hand taking the bidding pressure. Well done!|pg|| nt|vugraph9: weichsel claimed extra points for all four jacks|pg|| pc|sJ|nt|brolucius: Meckstroth competed to the nine-trick level because he knew they held nine trumps between the hands (Law of Total Tricks) |pg|| pc|sQ|pc|sA|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c8|pc|c2|pc|c9|pg|| nt|kareno: Sonty has to figure out the diamond suit. Outside of that he has only two hearts to lose.|pg|| nt|brolucius: Reverse count signal from West|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c5|pc|cK|pc|cA|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h8|pc|hQ|pc|h2|pg|| nt|kareno: Now a heart shift is obvious.|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h4|pc|h9|pc|hT|pg|| pc|s2|nt|dinos1: now @s|pg|| pc|d4|pc|s7|pc|s6|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|c6|pc|sT|pc|c4|pg|| nt|dinos1: :)|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d5|pc|d2|pc|d8|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d6|pc|dA|pc|dQ|pg|| nt|kareno: Getting an inferential count.|pg|| nt|kareno: And maximizing the play - well done!!|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|c5|st||md|3SAT6HT8DAT9732CQ3,S8532HAQ65DQ8C854,SJHJ742DKJ4CKJT72,SKQ974HK93D65CA96|sv|n|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|d|mb|p|nt|poohbear: battle of titans now. And the first table of native americans( my apologies to the indians:)|pg|| nt|poohbear: mister Hamman has no fear|pg|| nt|poohbear: dangerous double|pg|| mb|3D|nt|swanson: Passed hand, a pre-balancing situation. He would be stuck if not a passed hand.|pg|| nt|ritong: still , pass is not very active|pg|| nt|poohbear: BAM is a battle of the 3 lvl|pg|| mb|3S|nt|poohbear: goal is always try to get your opps to the 3lvl|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|4D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|swanson: Double would have worked well, but too much to pass by Paul.|pg|| nt|poohbear: on guessing the @D queen|pg|| pc|s8|nt|csimon: and that was successful here - perfect defense should result in down 2|pg|| nt|csimon: I was referring to defending 3@s|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|sQ|pc|sA|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c5|pc|cT|pc|c6|pg|| nt|poohbear: " Feels" like trumps 2-2 from the auction. We will see if Soloway messes around to try and get a count |pg|| nt|swanson: Soloway has to find a parking place for his third spade before drawing trump.|pg|| pc|c2|nt|swanson: He knows from the defensive tempo and cards that clubs are 3-3.|pg|| nt|poohbear: Defense will be forced to play hearts now|pg|| nt|poohbear: so he will get a count on that suit a swell|pg|| pc|cA|pc|cQ|pc|c4|pg|| nt|poohbear: Martel Stansby open weak NTs but not with good 5 card majors so no help there|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h8|pc|hQ|pc|h2|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h4|pc|h9|pc|hT|pg|| pc|c8|pc|cJ|pc|c9|pc|s6|pg|| pc|h7|pc|hK|nt|ritong: nice struggle:)|pg|| pc|d2|pc|h5|pg|| nt|poohbear: after all this He better get the trumps right:)|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d8|pc|d4|pc|d5|pg|| pc|d3|pc|dQ|pc|dK|pc|d6|pg|| nt|ritong: ite, missa est|pg|| nt|poohbear: well done|pg|| nt|csimon: I just got a phone call from someone travelling home going south on the turnpike from Orlando - the road has been closed for 6 hrs due to fatal accident - maybe someone should ...|pg|| nt|csimon: announce this at the tournament site...|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|o6|st||md|4ST862HKQT83D32CAT,SKJ53H5DAQT4CQJ63,SAQ9HAJ964DK98CK9,S74H72DJ765C87542|sv|e|mb|p|nt|brolucius: Well done, indeed. He read the cards accurately. |pg|| mb|p|mb|1D|an|2+ 11-15|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2D|an|GF stayman|mb|p|nt|brolucius: North would have doubled 20 years ago. Many would bid 1@H nowadays. 1NT is also good.|pg|| nt|kareno: Transfer by south I believe?|pg|| nt|brolucius: North may break transfer|pg|| mb|2H|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s7|nt|dinos1: thx stayman|pg|| nt|kareno: Guess no superaccept if it was a transfer. If it was Stayman, then a normal response.|pg|| nt|timb: 12 tricks|pg|| nt|dinos1: or wd super-accept|pg|| nt|timb: Stayman would be consistent|pg|| nt|brolucius: A good and simple method is to play the same (Stayman + transfers) opposite a 1NT overcall as you do opposite a 1NT opening |pg|| pc|s8|pc|sJ|pc|sQ|pg|| nt|kareno: And that is exactly what I do in my partnership.|pg|| nt|brolucius: ..and mine. Perhaps we should have a game together?|pg|| nt|kareno: And we use our 2NT system if we overcall 2NT over a preempt as well, by the way.|pg|| nt|dinos1: over minor - yes, over major - better cue as stayman and rest - trf (including 2@c)|pg|| nt|brolucius: Yes.|pg|| nt|kareno: David it would be my pleasure :)|pg|| nt|vugraph9: claimed at trick two|pg|| nt|brolucius: Too early to say that... I screw up pretty often...|pg|| nt|timb: pretty flat|pg|| nt|brolucius: If truth be told, there has been little interest in the boards so far|pg|| nt|kareno: Alan Sontag is one of the fastest players on the planet - Peter Weichsel is not. Good idea for Peter to claim as soon as possible to leave himself time for future boards :)|pg|| nt|brolucius: Interesting method, Sergey. I will take a close look at it.|pg|| nt|brolucius: BBO should organise an amusing cartoon for when the players finish so quickly|pg|| nt|brolucius: Or we can continue our previous game of choosing an awful convention for every letter in the alphabet. Who has one for C and D? |pg|| nt|brolucius: There was general agreement that Flannery and Gerber were worthy candidates|pg|| nt|kareno: Whoa!! I play four-card majors and Flannery is very useful for my system.|pg|| nt|kareno: Was Blackwood proposed?|pg|| nt|brolucius: Someone did propose Blackwood, but (used properly) it is a great tool.|pg|| nt|dinos1: no - blkw is useful:)|pg|| nt|kareno: Too often ABused.|pg|| nt|dinos1: gerber - another story|pg|| nt|brolucius: A kibitzer proposes '2@H double negative' as a D-convention. |pg|| nt|kareno: My system is under attack!!|pg|| nt|dinos1: agree :))|pg|| mc|12|pg|| qx|c6|st||md|4ST862HKQT83D32CAT,SKJ53H5DAQT4CQJ63,SAQ9HAJ964DK98CK9,S74H72DJ765C87542|sv|e|mb|p|nt|poohbear: 5th push board|pg|| mb|p|mb|1D|mb|1H|mb|p|nt|csimon: the accident was at the 177 mile marker|pg|| nt|swanson: This will be another.|pg|| nt|tsanders: What does the panel think about N's 1|pg|| nt|poohbear: unless slam is bid:)|pg|| mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|tsanders: 11H overcall?|pg|| nt|tsanders: @h|pg|| pc|d5|nt|ritong: @h, tommy:)|pg|| nt|poohbear: hate overcalling 1nt with Hxx in their suit|pg|| pc|d2|nt|tsanders: what about double?|pg|| nt|poohbear: rather see pard bid it|pg|| nt|poohbear: dont like dbl|pg|| nt|swanson: To me the order of preference is 1@H, Dbl, 1NT|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d8|pg|| nt|ritong: second that|pg|| nt|csimon: I think it's a toss-up between 1@h and 1nt - no strong feelings either way|pg|| pc|d4|pc|dK|nt|poohbear: not strong enuff to rebid hearts|pg|| pc|d6|pc|d3|pg|| pc|h9|pc|h7|pc|h3|nt|swanson: After 1@H North can reopen with a double if necessary.|pg|| pc|h5|pg|| pc|d9|pc|d7|pc|h8|pc|dT|pg|| pc|hK|nt|poohbear: concensus for 1h it seems|pg|| pc|c3|pc|h4|pc|h2|pg|| pc|hT|pc|dQ|pc|h6|pc|c8|pg|| nt|swanson: Now strip the clubs and finesse a spade, insuring 11 tricks. 12 here.|pg|| pc|cT|nt|tsanders: most flexible bid|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|cK|pc|c5|pg|| pc|c9|pc|c2|pc|cA|pc|c6|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s3|pc|sQ|pc|s4|pg|| pc|hJ|nt|vugraph7: well he took 12 tricks|pg|| nt|poohbear: give us the result Susan:)|pg|| nt|poohbear: thanks |pg|| nt|poohbear: so a normal push|pg|| nt|csimon: he did the right thing (as we all expected)|pg|| nt|poohbear: Are these guys card flippers too?:)|pg|| nt|swanson: Couldn't lose, Stansby couldn't hold the singleton jack of spades.|pg|| mc|12|pg|| qx|o7|st||md|1SQ96H873DQJ63CK87,SJ4HKT2DAKT5C9654,SAT852HQ65D87CQJ3,SK73HAJ94D942CAT2|sv|b|nt|brolucius: It doesn't seem so bad. I quite like the idea.|pg|| nt|kareno: Yet another world-class pairing here.|pg|| nt|vugraph9: berkowitz and z-man just both alerted their passes (in jest)|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1C|an|alerted|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|brolucius: Polish club = weak NT or strong|pg|| pc|s5|nt|kareno: Polish 1@c - most often is a weak notrump type hand.|pg|| pc|s3|pc|sQ|nt|dinos1: lucky hand for 3N|pg|| pc|s4|pg|| nt|brolucius: Super effort to stop so low|pg|| pc|s9|pc|sJ|pc|s8|nt|dinos1: 2 tens - better invite|pg|| pc|s7|pg|| nt|brolucius: Yes, it looks it but he made a good decision. |pg|| nt|dinos1: without them - 1N is ok|pg|| pc|hT|pc|h6|pc|h4|pc|h3|pg|| nt|kareno: He's conveniently in hand for the @h finesse.|pg|| nt|kareno: Life is good :)|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h5|pc|h9|nt|brolucius: No need to stretch when playing matchpoints or point-a-board|pg|| pc|h7|pg|| nt|dinos1: y|pg|| pc|h2|pc|hQ|pc|hA|pc|h8|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|d6|nt|kareno: Now if he ducks a diamond (high as he can afford.. the ten) he'll take nine.|pg|| nt|dinos1: here your contracts shd be 50+%|pg|| pc|c6|pc|d8|pg|| nt|kareno: Berkowitz has opened up the diamond suit and declarer can actually take TEN tricks at this point.|pg|| nt|brolucius: If South splits his diamonds, declarer will have to guess|pg|| nt|brolucius: He doesn't want to lose three spade tricks|pg|| nt|timb: surely he will cash out for a safe 8 tricks|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d3|nt|timb: nine|pg|| nt|dinos1: 10 - 10 tr|pg|| nt|kareno: What's the risk finessing the diamond?|pg|| nt|kareno: If Larry Cohen had six spades he would likely have opened a weak two bid.|pg|| nt|timb: if it loses they cash three spades and a diamond |pg|| nt|dinos1: no risk|pg|| nt|brolucius: If it was 'no risk' Balicki would have done it by now! |pg|| nt|dinos1: if duck - 8 or 10, if top - 8|pg|| nt|kareno: Well, there are four spades out. If they're 3-1 as they appear, yes, there is a risk.|pg|| pc|dT|pc|d7|pg|| pc|dA|pc|s2|pc|d4|pc|dJ|pg|| pc|dK|pc|sT|pc|d9|pc|dQ|pg|| nt|timb: well done|pg|| nt|kareno: Ten tricks. Powerful bridge. Actually he doesn't know it but any plus score would be a win.|pg|| nt|dinos1: North cant have 6 @s's|pg|| nt|kareno: No - he would have bid 2@s |pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|c7|st||md|1SQ96H873DQJ63CK87,SJ4HKT2DAKT5C9654,SAT852HQ65D87CQJ3,SK73HAJ94D942CAT2|sv|b|nt|vugraph7: yeah, they are once they've decided what to do|pg|| nt|tsanders: all of these pushes are good for the leaders|pg|| nt|poohbear: well not if the other leader is having a good game:)|pg|| nt|csimon: how is it decided which team we feature at the vugraph table?|pg|| nt|poohbear: ACBL choice|pg|| nt|vugraph7: >>>>>>>>>>>> Round 4 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<|pg|| mb|p|mb|1N!|an|11-14|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ritong: wow|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s3|pc|sQ|pc|s4|pg|| pc|s9|pc|sJ|nt|poohbear: 9 tricks are available with 3 red suit cards well placed|pg|| pc|s8|nt|csimon: 9 tricks by guessing the @hQ and the double finesse in @ds - easy game!|pg|| nt|swanson: He might have overtaken with the @SK if he was planning to misguess hearts.|pg|| nt|vugraph7: he hasn't not done that yet..|pg|| nt|poohbear: in fact when declarer leads the 9 of @d South better cover|pg|| nt|poohbear: assuming he does that|pg|| nt|csimon: totally ugly contract!|pg|| nt|poohbear: seems right to play @D before hearts|pg|| pc|s7|pg|| pc|hK|nt|poohbear: guess not|pg|| nt|csimon: got over 1 hurdle|pg|| pc|h6|pc|h4|pc|h8|pg|| pc|hT|pc|h5|pc|h9|pc|h7|pg|| pc|h2|pc|hQ|pc|hA|pc|h3|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|d3|nt|swanson: He can't very well finesse the hearts the other way and finesse diamonds also.|pg|| nt|csimon: maybe an overtrick|pg|| pc|c4|pc|d7|pg|| nt|poohbear: Declarer can safely assume that 3nt will not be bid at the other table so he should try to make it|pg|| nt|poohbear: not caring how many he goes down|pg|| nt|ritong: this @d discard by rosenberg muddies somewhat the waters|pg|| nt|vugraph7: At the beginning of the session today: 1. Nickell 21.38 /// 2. Brachman 20.44 /// 3. Bertheau 16.07 /// 4. Welland 15.91 /// 5. Schwartz 15.51 /// 6. Cayne 15.24 /// 7. O'Rourke ...|pg|| nt|vugraph7: 14.38 /// 8. Lev 14.24 /// 9. Jacobs 14.13 /// 10. Wildavsky 13.04 /// 11. Sanborn 12.84 /// 12. Meltzer 10.81 /// 13. Roren 10.54 /// 14. Mossop 9.67|pg|| nt|swanson: How would you like to have this vulnerable game pinned on you at IMPs. Here it is only half a board lost (to par)|pg|| nt|csimon: that's just like a bad beat at poker|pg|| pc|d9|pc|d6|nt|swanson: Maybe he is thinking of leading to a diamond honor and the back to dummy.|pg|| nt|csimon: the moment of decision|pg|| nt|ritong: we do not know yet who will win the pot|pg|| pc|dA|nt|poohbear: we have a winner.......|pg|| pc|d8|pg|| nt|poohbear: Rosenberg Zia|pg|| nt|csimon: Zia and Michael 'take the pot' :)|pg|| nt|tsanders: justice served in relation to bidding|pg|| nt|poohbear: 1nt being played at the other table|pg|| nt|swanson: The diamond honor play after a discard by Rosenberg is really playing for a defensive error.|pg|| pc|dK|nt|poohbear: NEXTTTTTT|pg|| pc|sT|pc|d2|pc|dJ|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|o8|st||md|2SJ763H52DQ632CKJ2,SAQT5HT84D74CAT95,SK8HAJDKT985CQ876,S942HKQ9763DAJC43|sv|o|nt|dinos1: so finesse was safe|pg|| mb|p|nt|brolucius: Bidding 3NT at the other table was not so clever with 12 opposite 11 at point-a-board|pg|| nt|kareno: Agreed|pg|| mb|1N|an|14-16|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|kareno: But if you bid it, best make it.|pg|| nt|brolucius: 2@H looked a fair bet from East|pg|| nt|timb: @HQ or @HK is a good card|pg|| nt|vugraph9: these two pairs are having a good time|pg|| nt|kareno: All's on the opening lead. 4th or honor?|pg|| pc|hK|nt|dinos1: having 9 better honor|pg|| pc|h2|pc|hT|pc|hA|pg|| nt|kareno: Honor works well. |pg|| pc|dT|pc|dA|pc|d2|pc|d4|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h5|pc|h8|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|h9|nt|kareno: I'm told B/Z use Smith echo so no problems on defense.|pg|| nt|brolucius: Looks like they would have done better in 2@H, which may be bid at the other table.|pg|| pc|d3|pc|h4|pc|c6|pg|| pc|h7|nt|dinos1: i was said 3@h in the other room|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cT|pc|c7|pg|| nt|brolucius: No doubt they are not playing a weak notrump (N-S) at the other table and the bidding will have been different|pg|| pc|h6|pc|s3|nt|dinos1: 140, need to beat down 3|pg|| nt|timb: 3@H loses a trick in each suit for +140 so it looks like a win to NS|pg|| pc|c9|pc|c8|pg|| pc|h3|pc|s6|nt|brolucius: Kibitzer says (weak 1NT) 2@D (showing one major) and 3@H by West.|pg|| nt|kareno: Unless somehow e/w get nine tricks.|pg|| pc|c5|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s7|nt|dinos1: no - only 8|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s8|pg|| nt|brolucius: He must cash club ace now, but still not good enough |pg|| nt|kareno: So it's a win for Berkowitz and Cohen.|pg|| pc|cA|nt|brolucius: I am surprised by Balicki's reticence in the bidding. They bid 2@H in the local church-hall game over here! |pg|| nt|kareno: You make a good point!!|pg|| nt|brolucius: We are all looking for some EXCITEMENT. Where are the big hands?|pg|| nt|kareno: I'm being asked something I can't answer .. how to archive or save these deals.|pg|| nt|brolucius: I am more than happy for someone else to answer this question!|pg|| nt|kareno: Are all the events we see on BB available to replay?|pg|| nt|brolucius: In your profile you can ask for the files to be saved that you play/kibitz. But how you retrieve them, I don't know|pg|| nt|kareno: Okay, I'm hearing you click on MOVIE at the bottom of the screen and then look for the SAVE button.|pg|| nt|dinos1: 1) they are saving in your folder Hands|pg|| nt|kareno: Also I hear that you can click on your own name and then click on "Archive deals while kibitzing"|pg|| nt|dinos1: or you may save using button Movie|pg|| nt|kareno: Is there more, kibitzers or have I told all?|pg|| nt|brolucius: The count of consecutive DULL HANDS is now 8. The dealer should be replaced.|pg|| nt|kareno: I see in my profile, "Log deals in Viewgraph" as an option - check those options.|pg|| nt|kareno: When you want to access a saved file, navigate to the bbo folder on your computer and look for the 'hands' directory.|pg|| nt|dinos1: but you shd have flag on Log deals during vugraphe|pg|| nt|kareno: There's a further question - how about deals you don't watch? Deals from yesterday for instance?|pg|| nt|dinos1: they are in Library|pg|| nt|brolucius: Well, I will give you a bidding problem 1@H (2@S overcall) and you hold K/10/QJxx/Q9xxxxx. What do you bid?|pg|| nt|kareno: Unless they are in the library (on bbo?) or someone else can email them to you, you can't get them.|pg|| mc|5|pg|| qx|c8|st||md|2SJ763H52DQ632CKJ2,SAQT5HT84D74CAT95,SK8HAJDKT985CQ876,S942HKQ9763DAJC43|sv|o|nt|csimon: Is Lanzarotti grumbling in Italian now, Susan?|pg|| nt|vugraph7: was :)|pg|| mb|p|nt|poohbear: Susan in Italian Heaven:)|pg|| nt|swanson: Lanazrott - Buratti are another of the very strong Italian pairs. They are on the RIchard Schwartz team.|pg|| mb|1N!|an|12-14|mb|2D!|an|one major|nt|juror2: 10 tr in OR|pg|| mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|swanson: Pass or correct, invitational.|pg|| nt|poohbear: may be forcing in spades |pg|| nt|poohbear: intending to raise|pg|| pc|c6|nt|vugraph7: time has been added to the clock this round for the first hospitality break -- the next round is due to start in about 10 minutes.|pg|| nt|swanson: Rosenberg could have opened a natural 1@D instead of 1NT. I like his choice with the major honors.|pg|| pc|c3|pc|cK|pc|cA|pg|| pc|h4|pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pc|h2|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h5|pc|h8|pc|hA|pg|| nt|poohbear: it is also very preemptive to open 1nt|pg|| nt|ritong: occupy no trumps when none vul looks vital|pg|| pc|d5|nt|swanson: This time it kept N-S from finding a worthwhile diamond contract.|pg|| pc|dA|nt|poohbear: defense now poised to hold this to 3|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d4|pg|| pc|s9|pc|sJ|pc|sQ|pc|sK|pg|| nt|poohbear: 4d goes down 1 I think|pg|| pc|d8|nt|swanson: Strange cover of the nine.|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|dQ|pc|d7|pg|| nt|poohbear: so that would be par|pg|| pc|cJ|nt|vugraph7: back in 5 minutes|pg|| nt|swanson: It's doubtful N-S would bid to 4@D even if they started with 1@D|pg|| nt|ritong: yes, john, zia played both black jacks in a surprising way|pg|| nt|ritong: would have played the @c one first trick|pg|| nt|poohbear: playing 1nt by north in the other room . slated to go down2|pg|| nt|poohbear: so win to the italians|pg|| nt|poohbear: and another split round but not with 2 halves this time|pg|| nt|vugraph7: approximate scores after 3 rounds:|pg|| nt|vugraph7: nickell 25; brachman 22; bertheau 20; Welland 19 ... I think Schwartz 19 also but don't quote me on that|pg|| nt|vugraph7: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Round 5 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|o9|st||md|3SQT64HQJ6DA82CT53,S3HAK98D653CKJ974,SAKJ8HT742DQJ7C86,S9752H53DKT94CAQ2|sv|e|nt|dinos1: Explore bridge => Library => archive|pg|| mb|1D|an|may be short (?)|nt|brolucius: Ah, we're off again|pg|| mb|p|mb|1S|mb|d|mb|2S|an|guarantees 4|nt|brolucius: Interesting that Passell competes (at Red) on such a hand|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|dinos1: perfect location of honors|pg|| pc|hA|nt|kareno: As ever the hand with distribution has to get in. Passell is doing what we call 'balancing live.'|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h3|nt|brolucius: Reverse count|pg|| pc|h6|pg|| nt|kareno: He knows that east can't have the right shape to compete.|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h4|pc|h5|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|h8|pc|h7|pc|s2|pc|hQ|pg|| nt|kareno: And the suit preference 8.|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c5|pc|c4|pc|c6|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cT|pc|cJ|pc|c8|pg|| pc|h9|nt|brolucius: Kills the discard (of a diamond) on the 4th heart|pg|| pc|hT|pc|s7|nt|dinos1: 3@c cold, 2@s good save|pg|| pc|sT|pg|| nt|kareno: And the spade seven is in case there's a promotion (very unlikely).|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s3|pc|sA|pc|s5|pg|| pc|s8|pc|s9|pc|sQ|nt|brolucius: Yes, it was bad luck tat the singleton @S3 couldn't be promoted :-)|pg|| nt|kareno: Really the only hope for south is a singleton king of diamonds.|pg|| pc|c7|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c9|pc|sJ|pc|cQ|pg|| nt|brolucius: 10-9 doubleton (but the count was wrong for either of these)|pg|| nt|kareno: That too.|pg|| mc|7|pg|| qx|c9|st||md|3SQT64HQJ6DA82CT53,S3HAK98D653CKJ974,SAKJ8HT742DQJ7C86,S9752H53DKT94CAQ2|sv|e|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|d|nt|csimon: Nickell opened up some daylight|pg|| mb|2S!|an|promises 4|nt|vugraph7: And I get to keep my italians for another round|pg|| nt|swanson: Too bad it doesn't promise high cards also.|pg|| mb|3D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s6|pc|s3|pc|sK|pc|s2|pg|| nt|swanson: This contract is not nearly as comfortable as 3@C would be.|pg|| pc|d7|nt|poohbear: if the defense draws trumps though.........|pg|| pc|d9|pc|d2|pc|d3|pg|| nt|poohbear: 9 tricks available now|pg|| nt|tsanders: small @d opening led was the winner|pg|| nt|swanson: Good duck by Hampson to retain control of trumps.|pg|| nt|csimon: this auction would not be duplicated if it were played a million times|pg|| nt|tsanders: there's an art in knowing when to play the Ace of trumps|pg|| nt|swanson: Greco-Hampson use a forcing club system so light opening, especially not vul, are part of their system.|pg|| nt|poohbear: i doubt that carol|pg|| nt|swanson: I don't see that anybody did anything unusual.|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c5|pc|c4|pc|c6|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c3|pc|c7|pc|c8|pg|| nt|poohbear: declarer needs to ruff 2 spades in dummy 1 heart in hand and cash 2 clubs and lead the 4th heart and ruff with the 10|pg|| nt|csimon: you don't think the 3@d bid was unusual, John?|pg|| nt|swanson: Now a cross ruf probably|pg|| nt|swanson: I wouldn't pass.|pg|| nt|poohbear: declarer knows everything is breaking|pg|| nt|csimon: but I'll bet a coke you wouldn't bid 3@d either|pg|| nt|poohbear: 2nt Takeout or dbl responsive were the only other alternatives|pg|| nt|poohbear: assuming they play that|pg|| nt|csimon: either of those actions would be 'normal'|pg|| nt|swanson: Many players use 2NT in East's position to show two possible places to play the contract.|pg|| nt|poohbear: Buratti needs to make this to win the board|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s4|pc|d5|pc|s8|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|h3|nt|swanson: But that would usually mean 4 clubs |pg|| pc|h6|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h4|pc|h5|nt|poohbear: bravo he made it|pg|| pc|hJ|pg|| pc|h8|pc|h7|pc|d4|pc|hQ|pg|| pc|s7|pc|sT|pc|d6|pc|sJ|pg|| nt|poohbear: cant go wrong|pg|| pc|h9|nt|poohbear: club sets up his trump trick by force and heart by elopement|pg|| pc|hT|pc|dT|pc|dA|pg|| pc|d8|pc|c9|pc|dJ|pc|dK|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cT|pc|cJ|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s9|pc|sQ|pc|cK|pg|| pg|| qx|o10|st||md|4S64HA62DKJ5432CK5,SAT852H843DQ8C832,SK9HKQ9DAT7CQT964,SQJ73HJT75D96CAJ7|sv|b|mb|p|mb|1D|an|may be 2|mb|p|nt|brolucius: Maybe a trump lead would have beaten 3@C (preventing two ruffs) but the diagram has gone|pg|| mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|nt|dinos1: 5@c 3@h (with a ruff) and 1@d|pg|| mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|brolucius: Oh, there was a diamond trick too. I forgot.|pg|| nt|kareno: Another hand with a diamond guess mandatory. And with no reason not to, I predict declarer will drop the queen doubleton.|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s4|pc|sA|pc|s9|pg|| pc|s2|pc|sK|pc|sQ|pc|s6|pg|| nt|kareno: Also I predict that Eddie Wold will unblock the spade Queen.|pg|| nt|brolucius: If a heart had been lead, he might have finessed diamonds into the East hand (despite the @CA being out)|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d9|pc|d2|pc|d8|pg|| pc|dT|pc|d6|nt|kareno: Probably not at BAM, though.|pg|| pc|dK|pc|dQ|pg|| nt|kareno: Not prolonging the agony :)|pg|| nt|brolucius: It's almost even money what you do with Q-x-x-x missing, so tactical considerations do apply even at BAM|pg|| nt|kareno: I think once everyone follows the first time, it's 52-48 percent for the drop. Just like the missing two cards percentage.|pg|| nt|brolucius: The odds are 52% in favor of playing for the drop and 48% for finessing (without any other info)|pg|| nt|brolucius: SNAP!|pg|| nt|kareno: :-)|pg|| nt|dinos1: say you may cash top @h's and change your mind if @h are 5-2|pg|| nt|kareno: Definitely.|pg|| nt|brolucius: That's risking too much if you guess wrong, isn't it? The hearts would then be bare.|pg|| nt|brolucius: Still, going down is hardly likely to be a winning board|pg|| nt|kareno: If you're playing for your life, the more information you have the better your decision.|pg|| nt|kareno: This was too quick - I'm going for some tea and cookies - anyone else?|pg|| nt|brolucius: Just a tea for me, thanks|pg|| nt|brolucius: Since it is 01.39 here in Southern England, I am in fact sipping some Chablis. This may have been obvious from some of my inaccurate comments...|pg|| nt|kareno: Enjoy the Chablis - we forgive any inaccuracies in advance!|pg|| nt|brolucius: I have been fairly accurate so far as the Chablis is concerned. Not a drop spilt. |pg|| nt|kareno: Well done!!|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|c10|st||md|4S64HA62DKJ5432CK5,SAT852H843DQ8C832,SK9HKQ9DAT7CQT964,SQJ73HJT75D96CAJ7|sv|b|nt|swanson: He had to guess the trump.|pg|| nt|poohbear: qj was known|pg|| nt|poohbear: QJ|pg|| mb|p|mb|1D!|mb|p|nt|poohbear: 3nt on a@D guess|pg|| mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|nt|tsanders: with S limited, N looks like a 3NT bid to me|pg|| mb|p|nt|swanson: Buratti will have to lead a spade to hold it to 10 tricks and halve the board.|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s4|nt|csimon: assuming the @d is guessed|pg|| pc|s2|pc|sK|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d6|pc|d2|pc|d8|pg|| pc|d7|pc|d9|nt|swanson: If you were playing for a swing you finesse the diamonds one way or another.|pg|| pc|dK|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|h8|pc|dT|pc|c7|pg|| pc|d5|pc|c8|pc|c4|pc|h5|pg|| pc|d4|nt|poohbear: assuming you decided the other guy wasnt playing for a swing!!!|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c6|pc|s7|pg|| pc|d3|pc|h4|pc|c9|pc|cJ|pg|| nt|poohbear: BAM thinking is very distorted:)|pg|| nt|csimon: most players do nothing swingy at this form of scoring - play straight down the middle|pg|| nt|swanson: I was hoping there was a reason I wasn't good at it.|pg|| nt|poohbear: Every board is a new adventure|pg|| nt|poohbear: nearly every board at this table could have been won at this table|pg|| nt|vugraph7: After 4 rounds, approximate scores: Brachman 23.4; Nickell 22.7; Bertheau 20; Schwartz 20; Welland 19.9; Cayne 19.7|pg|| nt|vugraph7: more italians!|pg|| nt|poohbear: hmmmm Nickell lost some points:)|pg|| nt|csimon: Nickell had 25 one round ago|pg|| nt|poohbear: We should introduce you to Gomez Addams:)|pg|| nt|vugraph7: oops, I misread the handwriting then|pg|| nt|vugraph7: I'll have someone check|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|o11|st||md|1ST976HAQ98DA52C95,SA5HT742DJ7CJT743,SQJ32HK5DQ6CAKQ82,SK84HJ63DKT9843C6|sv|o|nt|brolucius: It's not difficult, so long as you don't actually drink when typing|pg|| nt|kareno: I'll bear that in mind :)|pg|| mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|nt|kareno: There's no end of great matchups tonight!!|pg|| nt|brolucius: Greco/Hampson were leading when I read today's Bulletin, but that was a while ago.|pg|| mb|3N|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|brolucius: Good players often raise on 3-card support, so Greco bids 3NT to offer a choice of games.|pg|| pc|c6|nt|kareno: The opening bids get lighter and lighter!|pg|| nt|brolucius: He does this despite holding on K-x in hearts. He does not want to play in a 4-3 fit.|pg|| nt|brolucius: ..only..|pg|| nt|dinos1: if play 2n forcing over 2@s...|pg|| pc|c5|pc|cT|pc|cA|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s4|pc|sT|pc|sA|pg|| nt|brolucius: That does not cater for 11 points with responder and a 4-3 spade fit.|pg|| nt|dinos1: you cant have all :)|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|dQ|pc|dK|nt|kareno: I don't think they can afford to give up game tries :)|pg|| pc|dA|pg|| pc|h8|pc|h2|pc|hK|pc|h3|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h6|pc|h9|pc|h4|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h7|nt|brolucius: Nice diamond switch and declarer must go for his discard immediately.|pg|| pc|d6|nt|kareno: Great diamond shift.|pg|| pc|hJ|pg|| pc|c9|pc|c4|pc|cK|pc|s8|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s6|pc|s5|pc|s3|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|c11|st||md|1ST976HAQ98DA52C95,SA5HT742DJ7CJT743,SQJ32HK5DQ6CAKQ82,SK84HJ63DKT9843C6|sv|o|nt|tsanders: Passell/Wold from Texas on Brachman team|pg|| nt|vugraph7: >>>>>>>>>>>>> Round 6 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|1C!|nt|tsanders: Fantoni/Nunes World Champion Italians with unusual system|pg|| nt|swanson: Playing on Mrs. Welland's team.|pg|| nt|vugraph7: 1@C = 14+ w/ @Cs or 15+ if bal|pg|| mb|2D|nt|swanson: Has both covered on this hand.|pg|| mb|d|mb|p|nt|poohbear: 4 spades is the spot|pg|| mb|2S|mb|p|mb|4S|nt|swanson: The double is probably positive without a suit.|pg|| nt|tsanders: I believe Fantoni/Numes play all 1 bids forcing|pg|| nt|tsanders: Nunes|pg|| nt|poohbear: defense can get a club ruff to hold it to 4|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|vugraph7: sorry, no tank on the final pass :)|pg|| pc|c6|pc|c5|pc|cJ|pc|cK|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s4|nt|csimon: it is probably to declarer's advantage for the defense to lead @cs and even to take a ruff - hard to handle without the help|pg|| pc|s9|pc|sA|pg|| pc|c4|pc|cA|pc|s8|pc|c9|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s6|pc|s5|pc|s3|pg|| nt|poohbear: not really carol. 10 top tricks|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|o12|st||md|2S974HQJ87DA54CJ52,S2HAKT53DQ873CT96,SKQJ53H92DJ2CK873,SAT86H64DKT96CAQ4|sv|n|mb|1H|mb|1S|mb|d|an|alerted|nt|brolucius: The bidding and play has been very tidy (not tat anything difficult has been required). I'm surprised they are not showing more signs of tiredness.|pg|| mb|2S|an|weak|mb|p|nt|dinos1: openings are lighter and lighter :)|pg|| nt|kareno: They haven't played the very big number of boards that are usually played in this event. There are usually 30 each session in the finals.|pg|| mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|kareno: You noticed :)|pg|| nt|brolucius: I feel exhausted after two days play and greatly admire those who perform so well in such as the Olympiad.|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s2|pc|sJ|pc|s6|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s8|pc|s9|nt|brolucius: I would have opened a weak 2@H on the West cards. I don't see how you can survive by opening 1@H on 9 points.|pg|| pc|d3|pg|| pc|s7|nt|dinos1: as in this board - 3n "cold" :))|pg|| pc|c6|pc|sQ|pc|sA|pg|| nt|brolucius: Leading low from x-x-x has worked well for N-S. Declarer played South for an honor.|pg|| nt|dinos1: @h to 10, @d to 10 ... :)|pg|| nt|brolucius: Greco could have fostered this view by false-carding at Trick 1, playing the queen|pg|| nt|kareno: If that west hand is an opening bid then the east hand is too weak to demand game IMO.|pg|| pc|d6|pc|d5|pc|dQ|pc|d2|pg|| pc|d7|pc|dJ|pc|dK|pc|dA|pg|| nt|kareno: I'm hearing Nickell 27.4, Brachman 23.4, Bertheau 10.07, Schwartz 20.0|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c9|pc|cK|pc|cA|pg|| nt|kareno: Right Bertheau 10.07|pg|| pc|dT|pc|d4|pc|d8|pc|c3|pg|| nt|kareno: Bertheau 20.07.. sorry.|pg|| pc|d9|pc|h7|pc|h3|pc|s3|pg|| pc|h4|nt|dinos1: shd play for dbl fin - hardley 3n will be played|pg|| pc|h8|nt|kareno: well, it's makable now.|pg|| pc|hT|pc|h2|pg|| nt|dinos1: so ...|pg|| nt|brolucius: Well, there's a lesson for us. Always open on 9 points and everything will work out just fine.|pg|| nt|dinos1: yes - just 7% contract :)|pg|| nt|brolucius: You have to add another 2-3% for possible defensive error, so it was not so bad.|pg|| nt|kareno: You're getting good story material, David :)|pg|| nt|brolucius: You think so?!!! These dull boards...... I will have to alter 12 cards out of every 13. |pg|| nt|kareno: lol|pg|| nt|brolucius: Karen, I still don't understand the format. Are they playing 7 matches, the last 14 teams, with just one comparison? |pg|| nt|vugraph9: the format is a full round robin played twice; two boards twice against each of the other teams|pg|| nt|vugraph9: barometer|pg|| nt|brolucius: Ah, very good. A round-robin but you compare only with one current opponent. Thanks!|pg|| nt|brolucius: Well, that's amazing. At the other table E-W somehow stopped out of game despite holding a full 22 points between them.|pg|| nt|vugraph9: here in the room scores are posted with a one round lag|pg|| nt|kareno: You compare with only one team It's 1 for a win, 1/2 for a tie board and 0 for a loss.|pg|| nt|kareno: That's hard to imagine. They need to get their bidding shoes on!!|pg|| nt|vugraph9: unfortunately it's clear at the other end of the room where only the other operator (vugraph7) gets them|pg|| nt|brolucius: They need to start adding some points for tens, too.|pg|| nt|brolucius: This would be an appropriate moment for us all to show our appreciation for the VuGraph operators. Thanks, guys!|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|c12|st||md|2S974HQJ87DA54CJ52,S2HAKT53DQ873CT96,SKQJ53H92DJ2CK873,SAT86H64DKT96CAQ4|sv|n|nt|csimon: what i was trying to say was that the ruff was really a mirage|pg|| nt|poohbear: though at BAM you might mess it up|pg|| nt|swanson: What is a 2@S opening in the Italian's system?|pg|| nt|vugraph7: After 4 rounds: Nickell 27.4; Brachman 23.4; Bertheau 20.07; Schwartz 20.00; Welland 19.91|pg|| nt|poohbear: 2 suited I think|pg|| nt|poohbear: spades and a minor|pg|| nt|poohbear: 10-14|pg|| nt|swanson: Won't work well here.|pg|| nt|vugraph7: 2@S opening = 10-15 with 5+ @ss|pg|| nt|vugraph7: according to fulvio|pg|| nt|vugraph7: Nunes is back at the table --- ready for the next board|pg|| nt|poohbear: Thank you Fulvio|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|1S|mb|1N|an|11-13|mb|p|mb|3D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s4|pc|s2|pc|sJ|pc|sA|pg|| nt|swanson: Wold can ruff all his spades. 11 tricks are available with this layout.|pg|| nt|poohbear: also need to ruff hearts in hand|pg|| nt|poohbear: alot depends on whether North has the club King or the Diamond ace|pg|| pc|h6|pc|h7|pc|hA|pc|h2|pg|| nt|poohbear: doesnt rate to have both|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h9|pc|h4|pc|h8|pg|| pc|h3|nt|poohbear: can still revert to Johns line|pg|| pc|c3|pc|d9|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|s6|pc|s7|pc|d3|pc|s3|pg|| nt|poohbear: might be vital to play clubs now before North can pitch another|pg|| nt|poohbear: that is what Wold is considering|pg|| nt|swanson: Declarer is concerned that if he ruffs another heart now, Fantoni can discard a club (from three original).|pg|| nt|swanson: This would cost a trick if the @CK is onside.|pg|| nt|tsanders: whatever he does doesn't matter - already lost board to 3NT +430|pg|| nt|poohbear: Susan , Ring the bell please:)|pg|| nt|csimon: lol :)))|pg|| nt|vugraph7: hehe|pg|| nt|vugraph7: Maybe a buzzer that shocks all the seats?|pg|| pc|c6|nt|csimon: what a waste of energy - sweating for an overtrick that is meaningless...|pg|| nt|vugraph7: they probably wouldn't be as nice to me then :(|pg|| nt|swanson: 3NT is a real sporty contract with the E-W cards. Not a good BaM contract.|pg|| pc|cK|nt|poohbear: you WOULD like that:)|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c2|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c5|pc|c9|pc|c7|pg|| pc|s8|pc|s9|pc|d7|pc|s5|pg|| pc|h5|nt|poohbear: ( the buzzer)|pg|| nt|vugraph7: While it's a funny thought, the players on the whole are extremely nice when I ask for bid explanations / results / etc (between hands, of course)|pg|| pc|c8|pc|dT|pc|hQ|pg|| pc|sT|nt|poohbear: So wold does play clubs first|pg|| nt|vugraph7: So I'd feel guilty shocking them|pg|| nt|poohbear: and will make 5|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|d8|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|hT|nt|vugraph7: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Round 7 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|o13|st||md|3ST6HQJDA9864CJT54,SQJ2HA87632DKQCK8,S8754HT5DJ53CA632,SAK93HK94DT72CQ97|sv|b|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|nt|kareno: Absolutely - they are the best!!|pg|| mb|2H|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|vugraph9: :-D|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d7|pc|dA|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|d4|pc|dK|pc|d5|pc|d2|pg|| nt|kareno: Values they've got values :-)|pg|| pc|c8|pc|c3|pc|cQ|pc|c5|pg|| pc|h4|pc|hQ|pc|hA|pc|h5|pg|| pc|h3|pc|hT|pc|hK|pc|hJ|pg|| nt|kareno: Costly duck.|pg|| mc|12|pg|| qx|c13|st||md|3ST6HQJDA9864CJT54,SQJ2HA87632DKQCK8,S8754HT5DJ53CA632,SAK93HK94DT72CQ97|sv|b|nt|swanson: Wold did the best he could, but he knows with this layout of cards he can't possibly win the board.|pg|| nt|swanson: Any other contract will provide at least 150.|pg|| mb|p|mb|1C!|mb|p|mb|1N!|an|game forcing|nt|tsanders: leaders vs 2nd|pg|| nt|swanson: Brachman needs to win these two boards to have a practical shot at the title.|pg|| mb|p|mb|2D|an|weak NT|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|nt|csimon: the trick here is to play the nt game which produces the same 11 winners as @hs|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|poohbear: SAWIIIIIIIIIIIIIING|pg|| nt|tsanders: changed names|pg|| nt|csimon: wow! didn't even mention @hs|pg|| pc|s8|nt|swanson: The names didn't change fast enough. Hamman Soloway leading, Bizo Kwiecien are not second.|pg|| nt|poohbear: Bizon luvvvvvs this|pg|| nt|poohbear: knows he has probably won the board |pg|| pc|s3|pc|s6|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h5|pc|hK|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|h9|nt|poohbear: Hamman Soloway about to be shaking their heads|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|hA|pc|hT|pg|| nt|poohbear: right about now|pg|| nt|vugraph7: @hs too 12 tricks evidently|pg|| nt|vugraph7: *took|pg|| nt|poohbear: very proper for bizon to huddle for a second to let it sink in:)|pg|| nt|csimon: but wait - 12 tricks in other room|pg|| nt|poohbear: cant help that|pg|| nt|swanson: Snuck a diamond trick, then discarded the second on a spade, the got a club.|pg|| pc|c8|pc|c3|pc|cQ|pc|c4|pg|| pc|h4|nt|poohbear: nope diam to ace and snuck the club|pg|| pc|d6|nt|csimon: what a shame for Bizon & Kwiecien to lose the board this way|pg|| pc|h7|nt|swanson: Justice, I say, for not playing in hearts.|pg|| pc|c6|pg|| pc|h8|pc|d3|pc|d2|pc|d4|pg|| nt|poohbear: Defense here cant go wrong since they would need to duck 2 aces|pg|| nt|vugraph7: declarer gave up the 12th trick hunt|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|o14|st||md|4SAJ7HJT86543D752C,SKQ42HKDQ8643CAT4,S9653HQ92DAKJTCQ8,ST8HA7D9CKJ976532|sv|o|nt|brolucius: I'm glad I didn't pay 50 dollars to watch Meckstroth and Rodwell when the boards are like these. Absolutely free on BBO is not so bad.|pg|| mb|3C|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|4H|nt|brolucius: South is named after the drink they used to celebrate his birth|pg|| nt|kareno: That's his nickname - nobody can pronounce his name :-)|pg|| nt|vugraph9: he has indicated an interest in buying a vowel|pg|| nt|brolucius: Excellent!|pg|| mb|5C|nt|brolucius: Anyway, we have some action at last. A nice bidding hand. |pg|| mb|d|nt|kareno: Good bid - now Meckstroth isn't so sure about his heart stopper.|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hJ|pc|hK|pc|h2|pc|h7|pg|| nt|kareno: Lev thinks he has a trick or two - he'll be surprised too.|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c8|pc|cK|pc|d2|pg|| pc|c2|pc|h3|pc|cA|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s5|pc|s8|pc|sA|pg|| pc|d5|nt|brolucius: As I see it, North-South did nothing wrong at all in the auction. Only the E-W cards defeated them.|pg|| nt|kareno: Precisely. |pg|| nt|brolucius: I expect Lev cannot believe the giant hand that Rodwell had for his pre-empt. |pg|| nt|kareno: Rodwell had eight clubs but bid only 3 because he held an ace. Didn't want to bypass 3NT.|pg|| nt|brolucius: Ah|pg|| nt|dinos1: why not? only @d stiff is essential|pg|| nt|brolucius: He also wouldn't have wanted to bypass 3NT if he held J-x-x-x-x-x and a stiff Q|pg|| nt|dinos1: and pard is weak passing 3@c with long @h's|pg|| nt|dinos1: I see no reason in doublig|pg|| nt|kareno: I'm disinclined to preempt with outside aces. |pg|| nt|dinos1: do WE steal a game from us?|pg|| nt|dinos1: ace cd be in Meckstroth hand|pg|| nt|kareno: Nor do I, frankly. But Lev felt that Meckstroth was out stealing. How it's possible when Pepsi didn't overcall hearts I don't know but he got that idea and acted on it.|pg|| nt|dinos1: and they play 5@c instead of 3n|pg|| nt|brolucius: A double by North was no certainty but it had as much to gain as it had to lose. He can hope for 2 diamond tricks and another winner or two from partner.|pg|| nt|dinos1: so cd be 430 vs 400|pg|| nt|brolucius: Yes, that is a good point at point-a-board.|pg|| nt|brolucius: But South could have 10 points and not like to bid weak-over-weak.|pg|| nt|dinos1: and good long @h? impossible|pg|| nt|brolucius: Long but not good|pg|| nt|dinos1: 4@h bid is a sign of weakness|pg|| nt|kareno: North's double puts the board out of reach if the contract can be made. I'd be very disinclined to double myself.|pg|| nt|brolucius: Yes, he was not strong enough to bid 3@H. That still leaves quite a wide range. He could easily have one or two top cards.|pg|| nt|dinos1: ok - give me one possible hand|pg|| nt|brolucius: I am a very timid doubler, in general. So, if I agree with Lev (even though I know it failed) there must be some case for a double! |pg|| nt|brolucius: Any hand containing the heart ace, for a start!|pg|| nt|kareno: Suppose 3NT and 5@c both make - perhaps with an overtrick in 3N - the double now costs a full board.|pg|| nt|kareno: It's less a problem double at IMPs. So they make it and you lose a few IMPs. |pg|| nt|brolucius: It's not much of a problem when you can see all four hands. That's for sure!|pg|| nt|kareno: But here pard has stuck his neck out and achieved a good result (you weren't leading hearts) and you punish him for it.|pg|| nt|brolucius: I think you are being far too harsh on North. He is a great player and knows what he is doing!|pg|| nt|kareno: He IS a great player. I don't deny that for a moment.|pg|| nt|dinos1: my point is - I dont dbl if they dont save|pg|| nt|vugraph9: the swedes have gotten lost on the way to the vugraph table|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|c14|st||md|4SAJ7HJT86543D752C,SKQ42HKDQ8643CAT4,S9653HQ92DAKJTCQ8,ST8HA7D9CKJ976532|sv|o|nt|csimon: but isn't that the type of mini-swinging you want to do at BAM, John - 3nt vs 4@h|pg|| nt|poohbear: par here is 5h dbled down 2|pg|| mb|3C|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ritong: !|pg|| mb|p|nt|ritong: THAT is wild!|pg|| nt|tsanders: no one really had a bid|pg|| nt|poohbear: hmmmm|pg|| pc|h6|nt|poohbear: 3c was a tad heavy|pg|| nt|swanson: Anti-percentage to be in notrump, but OK if you need a swing. Not to bid the suit to reach notrump is a bit lucky.|pg|| nt|csimon: the other room is playing 5@c dbl|pg|| nt|tsanders: Meckwell got to 5@c|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h2|pc|h7|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c8|pc|c2|pc|d2|pg|| pc|c4|pc|cQ|pc|cK|nt|swanson: 3@C is an underbid by U.S. standards, not vul.|pg|| pc|hJ|pg|| pc|s8|pc|sA|nt|poohbear: Rodwell opened 3c as well. Game must be changing, When I last played 3c showed 6 or 7 trumps nv not 8|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s3|pg|| pc|d7|pc|dQ|pc|dA|pc|d9|pg|| nt|vugraph7: Round change|pg|| nt|poohbear: Meckstroth bid 3nt and South saved in 4h|pg|| nt|poohbear: now Meck bid 5c and North dbled instead of saving|pg|| nt|poohbear: not that it mattered:))|pg|| nt|swanson: I don't like either bid by N-S at the other table.|pg|| nt|poohbear: you would pass 3nt?|pg|| nt|poohbear: seems wimpy|pg|| nt|csimon: and I think 5@h is only a down 1 save - so it's even a good save over 3@c :)|pg|| nt|swanson: Yes. But I don't know that I would bid it. West was probably stealing when he bid it.|pg|| nt|poohbear: true 5n would probably go down 1|pg|| nt|poohbear: @H|pg|| nt|tsanders: for the benefit of you late arrivals: Many experts consider board-a-match the most exacting form of the game. Equal weight is accorded each deal and every trick is important when ...|pg|| nt|tsanders: scoring is board-by-board. Scoring is 1 point for winning the board, 1/2 point for a tie, and 0 for losing it.|pg|| nt|swanson: Nickell rolls on. They are not likely to be caught.|pg|| nt|tsanders: one can play board-a-match on BBO if you can get 7 others to play|pg|| nt|csimon: so it was west's fault that N/S didn't get to be -100 instead of -150|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|o15|st||md|1S64H763DQJ9CT7643,SAKJ3HK94DK4CA952,S9852HAJT852DT5CJ,SQT7HQDA87632CKQ8|sv|n|nt|vugraph9: here they are|pg|| mb|p|mb|1C|an|strong|nt|brolucius: The boards are getting better. I'm glad I stayed up.|pg|| mb|1H|mb|2D|an|GF, 5d 8+|mb|p|mb|2N|nt|kareno: Have another cup of tea (or Chablis - your choice).|pg|| nt|brolucius: This will be a good test of E-W bidding|pg|| mb|p|mb|3C|an|alerted: 3 possible hands|nt|kareno: Where are they headed other than 3NT?|pg|| nt|brolucius: You can explain the 3@C bid, Karen, I am pouring myself another glass|pg|| mb|p|nt|brolucius: Kibitzer tells me that 3@C has several meanings, to be revealed later|pg|| mb|3D|nt|kareno: I'm told it's a relay to 3@d|pg|| mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|3N|nt|kareno: And that 3@s is now a diamond rebid.|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hT|pc|hQ|pc|h7|pc|h4|pg|| nt|kareno: So east has made a forcing diamond rebid and they've stopped in 3NT.|pg|| pc|d2|pc|dJ|pc|dK|nt|kareno: Thanks kibitzers :)|pg|| pc|d5|pg|| nt|brolucius: They did well. They were only the @DQ away from a slam and they realised it.|pg|| nt|brolucius: No doubt Meckstroth didn't fnacy the fact that the @HK would be led through in a diamond contract|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s2|pc|s7|pc|s6|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s5|pc|sQ|nt|brolucius: Kibitzer is disappointed that his heros did not bid to 6@S|pg|| pc|s4|pg|| pc|sT|nt|kareno: Ahh, 3@d could have shown 4 spades, a diamond rebid or a NT invitation. As it is 3@s showed the diamond rebid.|pg|| pc|h6|pc|sK|pc|s9|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s8|pc|d3|nt|brolucius: Surely you play the same, Karen?|pg|| pc|c7|pg|| nt|kareno: Modified :)|pg|| pc|d4|pc|dT|pc|dA|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c4|pc|c2|pc|cJ|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c3|pc|c5|pc|h2|pg|| pc|c8|pc|c6|nt|brolucius: Yes, these guys need to put in some work on their system too. 6@S was cold.|pg|| pc|c9|nt|kareno: Luckily, the clubs are born unblocked and west will take the obvious four tricks in that suit.|pg|| pc|h5|pg|| pc|cA|pc|h8|pc|d6|pc|cT|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|c15|st||md|1S64H763DQJ9CT7643,SAKJ3HK94DK4CA952,S9852HAJT852DT5CJ,SQT7HQDA87632CKQ8|sv|n|nt|swanson: At one time Meckwell used 2@S for a bad preempt in any suit. If still using it that would explain the 3@C bid.|pg|| nt|vugraph7: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Round 8 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<|pg|| nt|tsanders: good point John|pg|| nt|csimon: I think that is still part of their arsenal|pg|| mb|p|mb|2C!|mb|p|nt|tsanders: 2 pairs of world champs. they know each other|pg|| nt|csimon: but it was still too good for 3@c|pg|| nt|swanson: According to one of my correspondents, they no longer use it.|pg|| mb|2S!|an|7+ pts forces 2nt|mb|p|mb|2N!|an|forced|nt|tsanders: 2@c not game force|pg|| nt|poohbear: Is this event being played in Rome???|pg|| mb|p|mb|3S!|an|5+ !ds|nt|tsanders: 18-19 balanced|pg|| mb|p|mb|3N|an|no fit|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|swanson: There are 11 tricks without the long diamonds.|pg|| nt|vugraph7: I have the bid explanations entered in the auction; if you scroll over the bids the meanings (from the player's table notes) will show up|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pc|h3|nt|ritong: quite remarkable|pg|| pc|h4|pg|| pc|d2|nt|ritong: stop in 3 nt with these two hands knowing it is the right place to be deserves an applause, imo|pg|| nt|swanson: 12 tricks are available in spade. South can't get in to give partner a club ruff.|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|dK|pc|d5|pg|| nt|vugraph7: sorry, misread bocchi's note... 2@S = transfer to 3nt|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s9|pc|sQ|pc|s6|pg|| pc|s7|pc|s4|pc|sJ|pc|s2|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s5|pc|sT|nt|vugraph7: *2nt (that was a typo, not a misread) :)|pg|| pc|h7|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s8|pc|d3|pc|c3|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cJ|pc|cK|pc|c4|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c6|pc|c5|pc|h2|pg|| pc|c8|pc|cT|nt|poohbear: After running black suits if clubs dont run , Declarer would try to endplay north to lead from ace of hearts|pg|| pc|cA|pc|h5|pg|| pc|c9|nt|poohbear: wouldnt work though|pg|| pc|dT|pc|d6|pc|c7|pg|| pc|hK|mc|11|pg|| qx|o16|st||md|2ST3H9875DK75CAJT6,S65HAJT2DT964CQ73,SK987HK43DJ82CK82,SAQJ42HQ6DAQ3C954|sv|e|mb|p|mb|p|nt|kareno: Can 6@s really make?|pg|| mb|1N|an|15-17|mb|p|mb|p|mb|d|an|9-10 HCP 3+ spades|nt|brolucius: I am relying on the (usually excellent) analysis by the kibitzers...|pg|| mb|p|mb|2C|mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|nt|brolucius: North was hoping for a penalty pass. That is very unusual against what seems to be a strongish 1NT. (Perhaps 13-15)|pg|| mb|r|mb|p|mb|2D|nt|brolucius: 14-16, I am told. Still a bold move by North.|pg|| nt|kareno: Whoops - 2c was a playable contract but now they're in murky waters.|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|d|nt|kareno: 1NT is 15-17 |pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|brolucius: No, the (very) latest info from the experts in the audience is that it is 15-17 in 3rd seat. In that case the double was not a good move.|pg|| pc|c4|pc|cJ|pc|cQ|pc|cK|pg|| nt|kareno: So they've gone from a nice 2@c to a horrendous 2@d.|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c5|pc|cT|pc|c7|pg|| nt|brolucius: Still, it was excellent work by M-R to penalize the indiscretion. Many pairs would have gone to 2@S at some stage.|pg|| nt|kareno: I'm really impressed that they passed 2@c doubled.|pg|| nt|dinos1: 2@c is -2|pg|| pc|h5|pc|hA|nt|kareno: This is a Menagerie hand. Same contract both rooms!!|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h6|pg|| pc|dT|nt|brolucius: Imagine having to play this in 2@D doubled with 518 kibitzers laughing their heads off!|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|dQ|pc|dK|pg|| nt|dinos1: not the same:) 2@dW|pg|| pc|h7|pc|h2|pc|hK|pc|hQ|pg|| nt|kareno: They've been there before - this is a seasoned pair. |pg|| nt|vugraph9: there are six around the table|pg|| pc|c8|pc|c9|pc|cA|pc|c3|pg|| pc|c6|pc|d4|nt|kareno: My point, Sergey - in the Menagerie they are always playing the same contract from different sides of the table :)|pg|| pc|d8|nt|kareno: What Fredin wants is to finish this hand fast and move to the next table :)|pg|| pc|s2|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d3|nt|brolucius: It wasn't his fault, of course|pg|| nt|kareno: At IMPs it would be terrible - at BAM it is a lost board, nothing more.|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d6|pg|| pc|hT|pc|h3|pc|s4|pc|h8|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|s7|pc|sQ|pc|h9|pg|| pc|s6|nt|brolucius: That is why some people don't like BAM too much. |pg|| nt|kareno: It is not very popular around the U.S.. It's Swiss that's wildly popular.|pg|| nt|brolucius: Non-existent on Europe. It is meant to be the form of the game where the best players win most often. So, it's popular with them.|pg|| nt|kareno: It's not an IMP disaster either (and probably wouldn't have happened). At matchpoints, the experts really compete hard for those partscores.|pg|| mc|6|pg|| qx|c16|st||md|2ST3H9875DK75CAJT6,S65HAJT2DT964CQ73,SK987HK43DJ82CK82,SAQJ42HQ6DAQ3C954|sv|e|mb|p|mb|p|nt|swanson: I though he was going to try an "aviodance" play by leading a second diamond and ducking if Hamman played the @DQ.|pg|| mb|1S|mb|p|nt|tsanders: it was very advantageous to find no @d fit on last hand|pg|| nt|swanson: Hamman, of course, would have dumped the queen on the king to stop that.|pg|| mb|1N!|an|semi-forcing|mb|p|mb|2D!|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|vugraph7: Bocchi explained 2@D as 95% 4+ @ds --- but also wrote 5332 and 5233 under that|pg|| pc|h9|pc|h2|pc|hK|pc|h6|pg|| nt|swanson: "Semi-focing" is a silly term. 1NT is not focing. Partner bids again with anything other than a balanced minimum.|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c5|pc|cA|pc|c3|pg|| nt|poohbear: with enuff to make game opposite a limit raise|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|cQ|pc|cK|pc|c4|pg|| pc|c8|pc|c9|pc|cT|pc|c7|pg|| nt|poohbear: term was used to differentiate the 6-9 nt and the 6-12 nt|pg|| pc|h5|pc|hA|pc|h4|pc|hQ|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s7|pc|sQ|pc|s3|pg|| pc|sA|pc|sT|pc|s6|pc|s8|pg|| pc|s4|pc|h8|pc|d4|pc|s9|pg|| pc|hT|pc|h3|pc|sJ|pc|h7|pg|| nt|poohbear: at the other table Meckwell will probably open 1nt and play it here|pg|| nt|csimon: also at BAM scoring, many players would preference the major even with 4-cd minor support|pg|| pc|dT|pc|d2|pc|d3|pc|dK|pg|| pc|c6|nt|ritong: they did, but lindkvist reacted with north hand|pg|| pc|d6|pc|d8|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|s2|pc|d5|pc|d9|nt|tsanders: well played|pg|| pc|sK|pg|| nt|ritong: actually, the final spot is 2@d doubled NS|pg|| nt|poohbear: interestingly enuff they are playing 2@d dbled at the other table|pg|| nt|csimon: must have been a VERY interesting auction to get there|pg|| nt|ritong: the bidding board is of headache type|pg|| nt|tsanders: N hungry to balance with that hand at other table|pg|| nt|ritong: five lines with some red and blue touches|pg|| nt|swanson: It's tough enough to get to 2@D undoubled.|pg|| nt|csimon: north balanced over 1nt?|pg|| nt|ritong: yep|pg|| nt|poohbear: amazingly|pg|| nt|ritong: viking spirits|pg|| nt|vugraph7: getting ready for the next round|pg|| nt|poohbear: drinking them?|pg|| nt|csimon: I wonder if he showed a 1-suited hand or maybe both majors?|pg|| nt|ritong: i guess he showed 13 cards:)|pg|| nt|poohbear: dbl 4 suited TO:)|pg|| nt|vugraph7: >>>>>>>>> Round 9 <<<<<<<<<<<|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|o17|st||md|3SQ8764HK5DQJ84C42,SATHAQ874DA976CK6,SK95HJ632DK3CAT75,SJ32HT9DT52CQJ983|sv|o|nt|kareno: That is true, David. The team that is playing best on the day of the event generally wins it. Swiss is less of a form game.|pg|| nt|brolucius: No, 300 was not too bad. I had not looked closely and was expecting it to be more in a 3-3 fit.|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1C|an|strong|mb|p|mb|1D|an|0-7|mb|p|mb|1H|an|4+ forcing; if 4, unbal|mb|p|mb|1N|an|0-5 no 4-card major|mb|p|mb|2D|an|NF either longer or equal|nt|kareno: BAM and MP are very similar. BAM you might say is MP to the Nth degree :)|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|dinos1: or MP with 2 tables|pg|| nt|kareno: Nickell 31.38 - Brachman 25.94 - Schwartz 24|pg|| mb|2S|nt|kareno: Looking like Meckwell are winning another big one.|pg|| mb|2N|nt|kareno: Exactly, Sergey.|pg|| nt|brolucius: South did not bid 1@S before so North can hardly raise.|pg|| nt|kareno: And surely not with only three @s's|pg|| nt|brolucius: Perhaps he's thinking of a BAM double|pg|| nt|kareno: Notrump is rightsided. |pg|| mb|p|nt|kareno: Curious that Seamon didn't want to defend diamonds!|pg|| mb|3C|mb|p|mb|p|nt|brolucius: He deduced diamond shortage with North and therefore hoped for a spade contract|pg|| nt|kareno: Oh, wrong-sided - forgot that east bid it first :)|pg|| nt|kareno: Now they are in a decent fit, finessed into that contract by south's balancing bid.|pg|| mb|p|pc|s5|pc|s2|nt|kareno: If one level higher :)|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|sA|pg|| nt|brolucius: North did a lot of thinking, it seems, and this may assist declarer in the play|pg|| pc|c6|pc|c5|pc|cQ|pc|c2|pg|| pc|hT|pc|hK|pc|hA|pc|h2|pg|| pc|cK|pc|cA|pc|c3|pc|c4|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s3|pc|s6|pc|sT|pg|| pc|s9|pc|sJ|pc|s4|pc|d6|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|s7|pc|d7|pc|c7|pg|| pc|h9|pc|h5|pc|h4|nt|dinos1: now 2 trumpe en-passant|pg|| nt|brolucius: Or can he set up the hearts with a ruffing finesse?|pg|| nt|kareno: How does duck do?|pg|| pc|hJ|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|c17|st||md|3SQ8764HK5DQJ84C42,SATHAQ874DA976CK6,SK95HJ632DK3CAT75,SJ32HT9DT52CQJ983|sv|o|mb|p|mb|p|nt|csimon: one of the specs told me: north used DONT - he DONT have his bid :)))|pg|| nt|ritong: heh|pg|| nt|vugraph7: Through Round 7: Nickell-31.38; Brachman-25.94; Schwartz-24.00; Welland-23.91; Bertheau-23.57|pg|| mb|1S|nt|csimon: that's an insurmountable lead!|pg|| mb|2H|nt|poohbear: Soloway protected by the fact that he plays a strong club system|pg|| mb|d|mb|p|mb|3D|mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|p|nt|tsanders: and he may get lucky and win this board|pg|| nt|poohbear: how?|pg|| nt|poohbear: opps got nothing|pg|| mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|poohbear: maybe here is how|pg|| nt|poohbear: maybe not:)|pg|| pc|dA|nt|tsanders: 1st, might even make, 2nd -50 could win too|pg|| nt|vugraph7: Hamman said sorry as he was putting down dummy --- Soloway just shrugged and returned to studying the first trick|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d2|nt|poohbear: if this makes Illl buy you a case of cokes:)|pg|| pc|d4|pg|| nt|vugraph7: More scores:|pg|| nt|vugraph7: NA Swiss through Round 6: 1. Fleisher-100.64; 2.Wojewoda-100.63; 3.Von Arnim-97.02; 4.Lall 5. Griffin|pg|| nt|poohbear: Just goes to show that Hamman is the one apologising!!!|pg|| nt|tsanders: Soloway/Hamman are playing on the Nickell team, the present leaders|pg|| nt|ritong: leaders in caps|pg|| nt|tsanders: LEADERS|pg|| nt|ritong: almost 6 points|pg|| nt|ritong: :-) ty ty tom:)|pg|| pc|d6|pc|dK|pc|d5|pc|d8|pg|| nt|tsanders: Levin/Weinstein on Cayne team|pg|| nt|tsanders: @c Ace is good, Levin has to unblock or be endplayed a little|pg|| pc|h2|nt|poohbear: ace and a spade seems like an easy play|pg|| pc|hT|pc|hK|pc|hA|pg|| nt|poohbear: club shift necessary now|pg|| pc|cK|nt|tsanders: that struck gold|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c3|pc|c2|pg|| pc|c6|pc|cA|pc|c8|pc|c4|pg|| nt|ritong: ugh|pg|| pc|c7|pc|cJ|nt|ritong: 110 EW other room|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h8|pg|| nt|poohbear: 3c making EW so down 1 will be a win|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|s8|pc|sT|pc|cT|pg|| nt|csimon: i see no way for -1|pg|| pc|d7|pc|h3|pc|dT|nt|poohbear: revoke?|pg|| pc|dQ|pg|| nt|csimon: yes!|pg|| pc|s4|pc|sA|pc|s5|pc|s2|pg|| pc|d9|pc|sK|nt|poohbear: suit counts known now|pg|| pc|c9|nt|csimon: ring the bell|pg|| nt|poohbear: will not misguess spades|pg|| nt|swanson: If Paul had guessed to lead the @HJ off dummy instead of the third club he would have saved a trick.|pg|| nt|tsanders: and won the board|pg|| nt|ritong: .|pg|| nt|poohbear: wouldnt there still be an uppercut in @d?|pg|| nt|poohbear: 2h 2s 1 and 1 |pg|| nt|ritong: aie aie aie...|pg|| nt|ritong: connection in danger..|pg|| mc|7|pg|| qx|o18|st||md|4SKJ65HAQ62DKT6C76,SQ3HKJ983DACAK542,SAT87HT74DQ953CT3,S942H5DJ8742CQJ98|sv|n|nt|kareno: Great result for Meckwell.|pg|| mb|p|mb|1D|mb|2N|an|clubs and hearts|mb|3D|nt|brolucius: North would bid 3@D if he knew of 4 diamond opposite. Oh, he has anyway!|pg|| mb|4C|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|kareno: Most often there are four diamonds in the 1@d opening. Only this distribution has three.|pg|| pc|c6|nt|kareno: Thoughtful lead by Seamon.|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cT|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|h5|nt|brolucius: Yes, it is important to raise to the three-level (over 2NT) when your hand is worth a raise to the two-level. You can cue-bid with a sound raise instead.|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h3|pc|h4|pg|| pc|s6|pc|sQ|pc|sA|pc|s4|pg|| pc|s7|pc|s9|pc|sJ|pc|s3|pg|| pc|c7|nt|kareno: That's true over any two-suited intervention like Michaels. The raise shows basically an overbid :)|pg|| nt|brolucius: By raising you give partner the chance to compete when he is strong.|pg|| nt|kareno: Accurate defense but 4 will be made because hearts break and clubs broke.|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c3|pc|c9|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d6|pc|dA|pc|d3|pg|| pc|hK|pc|hT|pc|d7|pc|h2|pg|| pc|h8|pc|h7|pc|c8|pc|h6|pg|| nt|kareno: Trump leads are often indicated on these hands to cut the ruffs in the shorter hand.|pg|| nt|brolucius: Accurate bidding too. We should admire Rodwell's 4@C bid, on a very weak hand. They knew exactly what they were doing.|pg|| nt|kareno: Weak but with four good trumps.|pg|| nt|kareno: Vugraph, how many more boards? I'm guessing three rounds??|pg|| nt|kareno: Four?|pg|| nt|brolucius: Six boards an hour seems a bit slow. Is that normal?|pg|| nt|vugraph9: four rounds to play|pg|| nt|vugraph9: the clock is set at eighteen minutes per two-board round plus two five-minute breaks after rounds four and nine|pg|| nt|kareno: Thanks!! So we can expect another hour and a half more or less of great bridge :)|pg|| nt|brolucius: Well, that is 6 boards an hour. Not fast enough to impress me. (However, their play is impressive). |pg|| nt|kareno: The play is wonderful, just wonderful.|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|c18|st||md|4SKJ65HAQ62DKT6C76,SQ3HKJ983DACAK542,SAT87HT74DQ953CT3,S942H5DJ8742CQJ98|sv|n|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|2S|mb|3S|mb|4C|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c6|pc|c2|pc|cT|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|h5|pc|hA|pc|h3|pc|h4|pg|| nt|vugraph7: Apologies, my internet connection died.|pg|| nt|swanson: I was wrong about the @HJ play. More diamonds from West gives an uppercut.|pg|| pc|s5|pc|sQ|pc|sA|pc|s4|pg|| pc|s7|pc|s9|pc|sK|pc|s3|pg|| nt|vugraph7: 2@S = @S + minor; 4@C = pass/correct, weaker than 3nt|pg|| pc|c7|pc|cA|pc|c3|pc|c8|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d5|pc|d4|pc|d6|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h7|pc|d2|pc|h6|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|hT|pc|c9|pc|h2|pg|| nt|vugraph7: steve described 4@C to me as "no game interest"|pg|| nt|swanson: I would say that also.|pg|| nt|csimon: he barely had partscore interest :)|pg|| nt|vugraph7: Waiting for the next set of players|pg|| nt|swanson: Many players use Michaels as either weak or strong. Just overcall with intermediate hands.|pg|| nt|swanson: This would come under the strong category.|pg|| nt|poohbear: old school john. modern thinking has revised that and decided it is better to get the distributin in|pg|| nt|ritong: ?|pg|| nt|ritong: to the opps, that is,|pg|| nt|swanson: You're talking about my school now.|pg|| nt|poohbear: when did you win the Bermuda Bowl ?1950?:)|pg|| nt|swanson: Might have been. Don't remember.|pg|| nt|csimon: most of us weren't born then :)|pg|| nt|poohbear: was 1977 |pg|| nt|poohbear: or maybe 76?|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|o19|st||md|1STHAK52DJT852CQJ6,SJ987HQ976DCAT854,SA654HJT84D73CK93,SKQ32H3DAKQ964C72|sv|e|nt|brolucius: It's a pity there have not been more taxing boards, so we can admire them being stretched a bit. I don;t remember anything particularly noteworthy in the play.|pg|| nt|kareno: There was a wonderful slam this afternoon played by Mike Passell.|pg|| nt|brolucius: The bidding has certainly been very accurate|pg|| nt|kareno: And we are certainly seeing accurate play and defense, something good for our kibitzers :)|pg|| mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|2S|nt|kareno: I would balance with 2@s here. Anyone else?|pg|| nt|brolucius: Surprised Wold did not bid 2@D (natural) on the first round.|pg|| nt|kareno: Ahh.. I'm with Eddie Wold on this one.|pg|| nt|kareno: That was certainly possible. Maybe he sniffed real diamonds behind him :)|pg|| nt|brolucius: Both 1@D and 2@H should be natural, since you have other bids for two-suiters|pg|| mb|3H|mb|3S|mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|kareno: Experts (I keep repeating this because it is so true) do NOT like to surrender partscores.|pg|| nt|brolucius: A matchpoint double if ever I saw one|pg|| nt|kareno: West knew that east was bidding his values but he had something extra.|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h6|pc|h4|pc|h3|pg|| pc|sT|nt|kareno: Lev makes a four-trump double. let's see how this works. Good trump shift by south.|pg|| nt|brolucius: That was the only card to beat 3@S at double-dummy, according to Deep Finesse|pg|| pc|sJ|nt|kareno: Wold is known to have only 4 spades - he would have overcalled with five. He is known to have values.|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s2|pg|| pc|s4|nt|kareno: The two rounds of spades deprive declarer of a crossruff.|pg|| nt|brolucius: This will be a brilliant 200 for N-S if they push E-W to 3@S, double it and find the only defense to beat it.|pg|| nt|dinos1: good def|pg|| pc|sK|pc|d2|pc|s7|pg|| nt|dinos1: @d pitch is costly|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d5|pc|c4|pc|d3|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d8|pc|s8|pc|d7|pg|| nt|brolucius: You are right, Sergey. The seesaw has tilted.|pg|| pc|s9|pc|s5|pc|sQ|pc|h2|pg|| pc|dK|pc|dT|pc|c5|nt|kareno: Very costly. |pg|| pc|s6|pg|| nt|kareno: The diamonds are acting as surrogate trumps now.|pg|| nt|brolucius: Not surprisingly, he could not picture such a giant diamond suit on his right. He had a very difficult discard to make.|pg|| nt|kareno: n/s will get only one more trick.|pg|| nt|brolucius: So, great bidding by N-S, great lead, great continuation and they end with -730...|pg|| nt|kareno: Lev's double was great, the defense was great and one little slip and the board is lost.|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|c19|st||md|1STHAK52DJT852CQJ6,SJ987HQ976DCAT854,SA654HJT84D73CK93,SKQ32H3DAKQ964C72|sv|e|nt|swanson: '77|pg|| nt|poohbear: ahhh gotchya:)|pg|| nt|vugraph7: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Round 10 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<|pg|| mb|1D!|an|2+ !ds|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|2D|nt|swanson: Took me four tries.|pg|| nt|poohbear: I am still waiting to get invited:((|pg|| mb|3H|mb|p|nt|vugraph7: Through Round 8: Nickell-32.88; Brachman-26.44; Welland-25.91; Bertheau-24.57; Schwartz-24.50|pg|| nt|swanson: We have the 2nd place team again, Greco and Hampson of the Brachman team.|pg|| nt|poohbear: 3hearts is a BIG bid even with a limited hand|pg|| nt|swanson: I declare the event over. Nickell in a runaway.|pg|| nt|ritong: it can be, alas....no real suspense|pg|| nt|tsanders: Is 3@h preemptive?|pg|| nt|swanson: Tactical, trying to shut out spades I would guess.|pg|| nt|vugraph7: Greco and Kwiecien are talking about the 3@H bid|pg|| nt|swanson: 2@D has to be played as natural in this situation against pairs that open short diamond suits.|pg|| mb|p|nt|swanson: Such as Precision style of Greco-Hampson|pg|| mb|d|nt|vugraph7: sry, East was the one thinking|pg|| nt|csimon: it's usually natural even against std bidders|pg|| mb|p|nt|poohbear: 4 spades?|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|poohbear: or pass. 3spades seems too wimpy|pg|| pc|dA|nt|poohbear: 3s dbled at the other table|pg|| pc|d2|pc|s7|pc|d3|pg|| nt|swanson: I like the defence chances against 3@S more than against this contract.|pg|| pc|h3|pc|hA|pc|h6|pc|h4|pg|| nt|swanson: If West leads a second heart, this contract has no chance either.|pg|| nt|csimon: ok - time to ring the bell!|pg|| nt|csimon: EW made +730|pg|| nt|csimon: no chance for down 4 here to save the board|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c5|pc|c3|pc|c2|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|cA|pc|c9|pc|c7|pg|| nt|vugraph7: The round was just called, but there's no movement in the room =)|pg|| nt|poohbear: everyone on board 1 polaying a dbled contract|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|sA|pc|s2|pc|sT|pg|| nt|csimon: when do the time penalties start? - they can't skip a board..|pg|| nt|swanson: This gives declarer a shot. Bizon still has to manage to lead a heart.|pg|| nt|vugraph7: Most of the room is now moving|pg|| nt|csimon: so if declarer makes, then EW lose 1260 instead of 630 - same zero|pg|| nt|poohbear: RING THE BELL:)|pg|| nt|swanson: That's one of the problems of kibitzing bridge. Too often players are thinking when we know it makes no difference.|pg|| nt|vugraph7: *sigh* if only I could! I feel bad for Eric,seems like he always gets miserable hands when he's at my table|pg|| pc|cK|pc|d4|pc|c6|pc|c4|pg|| nt|csimon: the other problem is when players AREN'T thinking when it DOES make a difference :)|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s3|pc|h2|pc|s9|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|s8|pc|d7|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|sK|pc|h5|pc|h7|nt|swanson: Declarer needed to ruff a spade, then to the club and ruff a spade.|pg|| pc|s5|pg|| pc|h9|nt|csimon: but Eric will win the board Susan :)|pg|| pc|h8|pc|d6|pc|hK|pg|| pc|dT|pc|c8|pc|s6|pc|dK|pg|| nt|poohbear: tortured none the less:)|pg|| mc|7|pg|| qx|o20|st||md|2SQ7HK87DJTCKT8732,SJT32HAQ6DQ64CQJ4,SA954HJT932DK93C6,SK86H54DA8752CA95|sv|b|mb|1C|mb|1H|mb|2D|mb|2H|mb|p|nt|brolucius: Matchpoint overcall. Unthinkable at IMPs, I would say, on such a suit and vulnerable|pg|| mb|p|mb|d|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hJ|nt|kareno: This double was (obviously) only card showing, not penalty. west could convert but his hearts look like they're poorly placed.|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h7|pc|hQ|pg|| nt|brolucius: West was hoping for a running diamond suit. Not quite!|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d3|pc|dA|pc|dT|pg|| pc|d2|pc|dJ|pc|dQ|pc|dK|pg|| nt|kareno: Diamonds not working, this one's headed south. |pg|| nt|kareno: Give Lev and Pepsi credit for pushing their opponents around on this hand.|pg|| nt|brolucius: Seems obvious to clear the hearts. I wonder what he's thinking about.|pg|| nt|brolucius: Does he realize that 6 boards an hour is a minimum not a maximum?|pg|| nt|kareno: I can't imagine what he's considering. Heart continuation must be automatic here.|pg|| nt|vugraph9: director in charge just made a room-wide slow play warning|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h5|pc|hK|pc|h6|pg|| pc|h8|nt|pjack: .|pg|| pc|hA|nt|brolucius: Give that man a prize!|pg|| pc|hT|nt|kareno: I've seen a player fall asleep at the table. It was a Polish player in a world championship but it wasn't Sam Lev.|pg|| nt|dinos1: fat SP|pg|| pc|s6|pg|| pc|d6|pc|d9|pc|d5|pc|c8|pg|| pc|h9|pc|c5|pc|c3|pc|s2|pg|| pc|h2|pc|c9|pc|c2|pc|s3|pg|| nt|brolucius: South has signaled for clubs|pg|| nt|kareno: Now north will signal spades and south will be able to hop up with the queen.|pg|| nt|brolucius: Club to dummy.|pg|| nt|brolucius: ... and dummy has to lead from spade king.|pg|| nt|brolucius: So, N-S probably get back the point from their disaster on the previous board.|pg|| nt|kareno: Looks that way.|pg|| nt|kareno: Three more rounds.|pg|| mc|6|pg|| qx|c20|st||md|2SQ7HK87DJTCKT8732,SJT32HAQ6DQ64CQJ4,SA954HJT932DK93C6,SK86H54DA8752CA95|sv|b|mb|1C|mb|1H|mb|1S!|nt|vugraph7: Eric yawned, and Geoff commented "you're putting yourself to sleep"|pg|| mb|2H|nt|swanson: 1@S transfer to 1NT I suppose.|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|csimon: great line!|pg|| mb|2S|mb|p|nt|swanson: This is not the way Goren would have bid the East hand.|pg|| nt|tsanders: 2@s imaginative|pg|| mb|p|nt|csimon: it's amazing how everyone bids on 'air' - in the good old days, this hand would be passed out - right, John?|pg|| mb|p|pc|dJ|nt|swanson: 1@S is a transfer to diamond, not notrump.|pg|| nt|swanson: This makes the whole sequence make sense.|pg|| nt|tsanders: On late play charges, we have 400+ witnesses. We have all been supenoed|pg|| nt|vugraph7: I think it was NT, not @ds|pg|| nt|vugraph7: but i'll ask afterwards|pg|| nt|ritong: an other possibility is double = 4+ @s, 1@s = less than four @ss|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d3|pc|dA|pg|| pc|d5|pc|dT|pc|d6|pc|d9|pg|| pc|h7|pc|hQ|pc|hJ|pc|h5|pg|| nt|ritong: then, 2@s = pick something, including moysian 2@ss|pg|| nt|csimon: in any case 2@s is a playable contract|pg|| nt|swanson: Maybe the ACBL can require all the pairs to post convention cards on BBO for these events.|pg|| nt|ritong: moysian = 4/3 fit|pg|| nt|vugraph7: directors getting antsy|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c6|pc|c5|pc|cK|pg|| pc|c2|nt|poohbear: named after Sonny Moyse . Bridge world editor before Edgar Kaplan|pg|| pc|c4|pc|s4|pc|cA|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d2|pc|h8|pc|dQ|pg|| nt|csimon: that's means they want to go home after a loooong tournament|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h4|pc|hK|pc|hA|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s5|pc|sK|pc|s7|pg|| pc|s6|pc|sQ|pc|s3|pc|s9|pg|| pc|c3|pc|cJ|nt|vugraph7: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Round 11 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<|pg|| mc|7|pg|| qx|o21|st||md|3SQ94HQT32D7542C74,SJ2HADAQJT3CAJT83,ST873HK98654DK8C5,SAK65HJ7D96CKQ962|sv|n|mb|p|mb|1N|an|14-16|nt|kareno: Another great pairing!! |pg|| mb|p|mb|6N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|brolucius: Let Zia work some of his magic with THAT hand|pg|| nt|brolucius: He has a chance|pg|| nt|kareno: Heart lead to beat this one.|pg|| nt|dinos1: @h lead?|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d3|pc|dK|pc|d6|pg|| nt|kareno: My friend Irene Hodgson (who played for Canada in the Olympiad) always leads @h against slam.|pg|| nt|dinos1: "safe" @d|pg|| nt|brolucius: No, Zia, fourth best of the longest and strongest. I told you that before.|pg|| nt|vugraph9: Zia opened the aperture, knocking rodwell's coffee into his lap but still has to score up -990|pg|| nt|kareno: She would beat this one too. I like an aggressive lead against a slam.|pg|| mc|12|pg|| qx|c21|st||md|3SQ94HQT32D7542C74,SJ2HADAQJT3CAJT83,ST873HK98654DK8C5,SAK65HJ7D96CKQ962|sv|n|mb|p|mb|2C!|mb|p|mb|2D!|mb|p|mb|2H!|an|any 4 card major|mb|p|mb|2S!|an|ask (?)|nt|swanson: Lots of science about to happen.|pg|| mb|p|mb|2N!|an|5422|mb|p|mb|3C!|an|ask (?)|mb|p|nt|tsanders: lucky not to get a @h lead in other room vs 6NT|pg|| mb|3N!|an|4 2 2 5 (?)|mb|p|nt|swanson: Now West knows that he need a finesse for 7 if partner does not hold the @DK.|pg|| nt|vugraph7: 2@H showed a 4 card major (either); 2NT showed 5@C + 4 c Major + 2-2 in remaining suits|pg|| mb|4C!|an|rkc for !C (?)|mb|p|nt|vugraph7: hamman and soloway are just passing, so I don't have any useful notes to go on|pg|| mb|4N!|an|2 w/ !CQ|nt|csimon: 6nt seems like a silly contract - might as well bid 7@c|pg|| nt|swanson: Not on this hand.|pg|| nt|vugraph7: at this point Balicki is known 4 2 2 5|pg|| nt|vugraph7: and has 2 keycards + @CQ|pg|| nt|csimon: they both require the @d finesse with 6nt needing even a little more|pg|| nt|vugraph7: so something in there is keycard for @cs|pg|| mb|p|nt|tsanders: EW on Welland team|pg|| nt|ritong: you should stop playing against opps who always lead the right suit, carol:)|pg|| nt|swanson: Without descriptive bids by E-W it would be difficult for either defender to lead a heart against 6NT.|pg|| mb|5H!|an|asking in !D|nt|tsanders: description of alerts can be accessed by clicking on bid|pg|| nt|vugraph7: and 5@H = "asking in @ds"|pg|| nt|vugraph7: (that one I'm pretty sure of)|pg|| mb|p|mb|5N|an|no !DA/!DK|mb|p|mb|6C|mb|p|nt|swanson: At the other table the bidding was 1NT - 6NT so South didn't have much to go on.|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|pc|h2|pc|hA|nt|tsanders: good auction, no justice|pg|| nt|vugraph7: balicki put his hand back in the slot|pg|| nt|csimon: right, Tommy!|pg|| nt|vugraph7: and asked hamman if he has @DK|pg|| nt|vugraph7: so he beats Norby's earlier claim|pg|| mc|12|pg|| qx|o22|st||md|4SKQ932HQTDKQ8C852,SH983DAT732CAQT64,SJ54HKJ75DJ6CKJ93,SAT876HA642D954C7|sv|e|mb|p|mb|1N|an|11-13?|nt|brolucius: (Safe) diamond lead was 'text book' against 6NT. |pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|d|an|requests 2C; one minor or both majors|nt|kareno: Rodwell will survive the coffee spill - he's well on his way to victory.|pg|| nt|dinos1: depends on type of this slam - if both hands are bal, then passive lead is better|pg|| nt|kareno: Again you see experts competing for the partscore.|pg|| mb|2S|mb|2N|nt|brolucius: Yes, passive against 6NT and go mad against a suit slam.|pg|| nt|kareno: You don't know, though, what sort of slam this is on the auction.|pg|| nt|dinos1: that's why 6n by Mecstroth was winning bid|pg|| nt|brolucius: I would bet on it being a notrump slam :-)|pg|| nt|kareno: Yep, the auction told us that :)|pg|| mb|d|mb|p|nt|brolucius: Wow, this is some partscore battle|pg|| nt|kareno: Hmm.. I'd think 2NT was for minors - wonder what Rodwell is thinking.|pg|| mb|p|mb|r|mb|p|mb|3H|nt|dinos1: now minors for sure :)|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|kareno: Now they're in trouble. |pg|| mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|kareno: Rodewell didn't see it that way.|pg|| pc|sK|nt|brolucius: Even the mighty...|pg|| nt|vugraph9: this time zia politely knocked on the screen so no disaster with the aperture|pg|| nt|dinos1: after 2@s by Zia hardly 2n was asking about 5cd M|pg|| nt|kareno: Oh, well, another push round :) Will Zia lead trumps? Oh, no? Not best.|pg|| nt|kareno: Club finesse?|pg|| nt|brolucius: Declarer can score some tricks on a cross-ruff and will have to guess whether to finesse in clubs.|pg|| nt|kareno: I think it's too risky of a trump return.. we'll see, though.|pg|| nt|kareno: I think he must try to hold the loss to 100 so no finesse - we'll see. four aces and four ruffs.|pg|| nt|kareno: Not vulnerable. |pg|| nt|dinos1: can ruff and duck @d|pg|| nt|kareno: Oh, he's vulnerable. Then he must take the losing @c finesse.|pg|| nt|kareno: I kept thinking nonvulnerable.|pg|| nt|brolucius: Remind me not to learn this 2NT convention for locating 4-3 major-suit fits.|pg|| pc|h3|pc|s4|pc|s6|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c3|pc|c7|pc|c2|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c9|pc|h2|pc|c5|pg|| pc|s7|pc|s2|pc|h8|pc|s5|pg|| pc|c6|pc|cJ|pc|h4|pc|c8|pg|| pc|s8|pc|s3|pc|h9|pc|sJ|pg|| pc|cT|pc|cK|pc|h6|pc|hT|pg|| pc|dK|pc|dA|pc|d6|pc|d5|pg|| pc|d2|pc|dJ|pc|d4|pc|d8|pg|| pc|h5|nt|brolucius: Well, eventually, Rodwell is going to lose 500. |pg|| pc|hA|pc|hQ|pc|d3|pg|| nt|kareno: He's got eight tricks in, no?|pg|| nt|dinos1: how? :)|pg|| nt|kareno: The same eight tricks I noted - four ruffs and four aces.|pg|| nt|brolucius: Did he make 8 tricks. I must have miscounted. True it is 3.45 in the morning here. Looks like I should head for the soft bed.|pg|| nt|kareno: It's LATE in England and David is so kind to stick around with us all these hours :)|pg|| nt|dinos1: 5 ruffs and 3 aces :))|pg|| nt|kareno: Well, the ace of spades could have been taken :)|pg|| nt|kareno: Rodwell took as many tricks as he could - didn't risk down two, hopes for a push board.|pg|| nt|vugraph9: two rounds to go; the pace is slowing considerably *yawn*|pg|| nt|kareno: Probably the single most difficult thing in the game of bridge is the opening lead. You often have very limited information and more contracts are made and broken on the opening ...|pg|| nt|kareno: lead than on anything else.|pg|| nt|kareno: Always be sympathetic when a great player doesn't find the double dummy best opening lead - it's very hard to be perfect in that one area. All you can do is your best.|pg|| nt|kareno: After the opening lead, you can see that the great players know more about the hand at once. If you could always find the best and winning opening lead, you would win any ...|pg|| nt|kareno: championship event, anywhere any time.|pg|| nt|brolucius: I can't switch off the machine when such as Z-R and M-R are performing. I must hope for two duff pairs to appear on the screen.|pg|| nt|kareno: There aren't two duff pairs left, David. Poor lad, you'll just have to stick with us to the bitter end!!|pg|| nt|brolucius: Well, make it one duff pair, then. There must be someone who is not world-class.|pg|| nt|kareno: So this board is a loss for Nickell who probably are still in the lead.|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|c22|st||md|4SKQ932HQTDKQ8C852,SH983DAT732CAQT64,SJ54HKJ75DJ6CKJ93,SAT876HA642D954C7|sv|e|mb|p|nt|swanson: If there was justice, Tommy, there wouldn't be many bridge players.|pg|| mb|1S|nt|vugraph7: the next round has been called ... still a few tables in play|pg|| mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3D|mb|p|mb|p|nt|swanson: I'm surprised Hamman didn't double 2NT|pg|| nt|vugraph7: seemed like he thought about it|pg|| nt|poohbear: good thing he didnt dbl cause 2 spades likely to make|pg|| nt|vugraph7: 1@S only promises a 4 card suit, for the kibitzers not familiar with the NS system|pg|| mb|p|nt|poohbear: Zmudzinsky that is|pg|| pc|sK|pc|h3|pc|s4|pc|sA|pg|| pc|c7|pc|c2|pc|cQ|pc|cK|pg|| pc|h5|pc|hA|pc|hT|pc|h8|pg|| pc|s6|pc|s3|pc|d2|pc|s5|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c3|pc|h2|pc|c5|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c9|pc|d5|pc|c8|pg|| pc|s7|pc|s2|pc|d3|pc|sJ|pg|| pc|c6|pc|cJ|pc|d9|pc|dK|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h9|pc|hJ|pc|h4|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|d7|nt|poohbear: good defense|pg|| nt|vugraph7: *chuckles* the directors are resorting to humor|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|s8|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h6|pc|s9|pc|dT|pg|| nt|swanson: I think this makes if Zmudzinsk refuses the club finesse, but certainly he could expect it to be on.|pg|| nt|vugraph7: "okay folks, it's time to move for Round 12. Go to your tables and you might find a surprise: there might be opponents there"|pg|| nt|vugraph7: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Round 12 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|o23|st||md|1SJH974DT52CAQ8642,SAKQ76432HJ3DK93C,ST85HT82DJ64CT753,S9HAKQ65DAQ87CKJ9|sv|b|mb|p|mb|4D|an|spades (bigger than 4s)|mb|p|mb|4N|nt|kareno: 4@d is NAMYATS, showing a strong 4@s opening bid.|pg|| nt|dinos1: good hand for namyats|pg|| nt|brolucius: Still a difficult bidding hand|pg|| mb|p|mb|5S|nt|kareno: I play it shows no more than one suit with two quick losers. Not sure how this pair plays it but for sure, Wold will find some positive response.|pg|| mb|p|nt|dinos1: does 4@h ask for shortness?|pg|| mb|6N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|kareno: I don't know their responses. We'll just have to wait and see.|pg|| pc|cA|nt|dinos1: and do they show void with 2 key cards?|pg|| nt|brolucius: Usually 4@H asks for hand-type (trumps solid, or one-loser trumps and a particular ace)|pg|| nt|kareno: It's definitely a bid that shows a solid suit. Zia wins the board (I think) with the club ace lead.|pg|| nt|vugraph9: wold's call to trick one was "ruff it"|pg|| mc|12|pg|| qx|c23|st||md|1SJH974DT52CAQ8642,SAKQ76432HJ3DK93C,ST85HT82DJ64CT753,S9HAKQ65DAQ87CKJ9|sv|b|nt|vugraph7: waiting for our EW pair... brb|pg|| nt|tsanders: EW won last board but seems he should have made 3@ds|pg|| nt|csimon: this is an exciting grand slam for EW to bid|pg|| nt|swanson: Flat 7@S cross the room?|pg|| nt|vugraph7: okay, all set for round 12|pg|| mb|p|nt|vugraph7: Standings after Round 10: Nickell-34.38; Brachman-29.44; Welland-27.91; Bertheau-27.07; Schwartz-26.50|pg|| mb|4D!|nt|poohbear: so half board from math|pg|| mb|p|mb|6N|mb|p|mb|p|nt|tsanders: so much for science|pg|| mb|p|pc|cA|nt|poohbear: well maybe not across the room:)|pg|| nt|csimon: good cash|pg|| pc|s2|pc|c7|pc|c9|pg|| nt|poohbear: but flat none the less|pg|| nt|vugraph7: another brilliant claim :)|pg|| nt|vugraph7: balicki showed his hand to eric to see if the @ss were running -- they were|pg|| mc|12|pg|| qx|o24|st||md|2S97HK3DKT432CJT54,S863H9642DA8765CQ,SJ52HAT75DQJC9632,SAKQT4HQJ8D9CAK87|sv|o|mb|p|nt|brolucius: It will be interesting to see how many pairs have the machinery to bid the spade grand. Very difficult.|pg|| nt|kareno: I know that many pairs play that the intermediate suit shows two controls (4@h in this case) but I simply do not know this pair's methods.|pg|| mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c4|nt|kareno: Let's see if Zia can magic up a heart lead. Not likely at BAM where you try to make the same lead that will be made at the other table.|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c3|pc|c8|pg|| nt|brolucius: Zia has left his magic in the box today|pg|| pc|h2|pc|hA|pc|h8|pc|h3|pg|| nt|kareno: I think Wold has to give them a chance at hearts.|pg|| nt|kareno: And he does. Has to lead them twice from dummy to score a trick in the suit.|pg|| pc|s2|pc|sA|pc|s7|pc|s3|pg|| nt|kareno: Now a club ruff and draw trumps. No more chances in the heart suit.|pg|| pc|c7|pc|c5|pc|s6|pc|c2|pg|| pc|s8|pc|s5|pc|sK|pc|s9|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|d3|nt|brolucius: Kibitzers are expressing their surprise that world-class pairs missed that grand. But hard for responder to imagine solid spades AND a void. And not enough space to find out. |pg|| mc|11|nt|vugraph9: 5nt would have shown 2 w/a void|pg|| nt|brolucius: Yes, but what about the spade queen, which was also needed?|pg|| nt|kareno: I think the players are tired and we must give them a bit of leeway. The spade queen is promised with the bid I believe.|pg|| nt|dinos1: then dont open 4@d|pg|| nt|vugraph9: i don't know whether it showed 2 w/q and void or if a further q ask would have been necessary/available|pg|| nt|kareno: Have we got any standings?|pg|| nt|brolucius: And the void had to be in the right suit (clubs) too. Perhaps the choice of opening bid was at fault, but any pre-empt is a gamble.|pg|| nt|vugraph9: they're just not coming to me :-/|pg|| nt|kareno: I've asked my reporter - we'll see if they're getting them.|pg|| nt|vugraph9: last round just called; not sure who's coming on stage|pg|| nt|kareno: David gets credit for being the iron man of commentators.|pg|| nt|kareno: And huge applause please for our wonderful vugraph operator |pg|| nt|brolucius: Thanks, Karen. Did anyone tell the players that there were HUNDREDS of top-class kibitzers who do not like being kept waiting?|pg|| nt|brolucius: I think, when BBO are broadcasting, that a rate of 12 boards an hour would not be unreasonable. |pg|| nt|kareno: After 10 Nickell 34.38, Brachman 29.44, Welland 27.91, Bertheau (Mrs. Welland) 27.07 and Schwartz 26.5|pg|| nt|kareno: Sergey and David, it's been a real pleasure!!|pg|| nt|brolucius: Pleasure is meant to be prolonged, but it should not be this long.|pg|| nt|dinos1: how many boards left?|pg|| nt|kareno: The players may know the standing to a point - I'm not sure - they play the same boards at the same time and it is possible that scores are posted from time to time. But not for ...|pg|| nt|kareno: the last few rounds for sure.|pg|| nt|vugraph9: final round--this is nickell vs. brachman (npc)|pg|| nt|kareno: These are the last two boards coming up.|pg|| pg|| qx|c24|st||md|2S97HK3DKT432CJT54,S863H9642DA8765CQ,SJ52HAT75DQJC9632,SAKQT4HQJ8D9CAK87|sv|o|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1C!|mb|p|mb|1D!|an|0-6|nt|tsanders: Polish @c|pg|| mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|4C!|an|splinter|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|tsanders: How many @h K leaders?|pg|| pc|s7|nt|vugraph7: not Geoff|pg|| nt|vugraph7: Adam suggested that Cezary cover. ;p|pg|| pc|s8|pc|sJ|pc|sA|pg|| nt|swanson: Not in matchpointed events. Possible in IMPs know there is a singleton club in dummy.|pg|| nt|poohbear: may get second chance|pg|| nt|poohbear: hard for declarer to do everything|pg|| nt|csimon: I don't think the non-@h lead matters - the trick comes back|pg|| nt|ritong: e dit tjrs bjr|pg|| nt|vugraph7: He's fun to have at the table --- he writes clear notes, makes funny gestures (his alert technique is great) and is always joking|pg|| nt|swanson: Declarer will ruff his club loser and hope for a doubleton heart ten.|pg|| pc|c8|pc|c4|pc|cQ|pc|c2|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s2|pc|sK|pc|s9|pg|| pc|c7|pc|c5|pc|s6|pc|c3|pg|| nt|poohbear: and you are on a first name basis since you cant spell his last name:))|pg|| pc|h2|pc|hA|pc|h8|pc|h3|pg|| nt|tsanders: now making 5, good technique|pg|| nt|vugraph7: hehehehe|pg|| nt|vugraph7: I -can- spell it, it just takes too long. :)|pg|| pc|h5|pc|hQ|pc|hK|pc|h4|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|d5|pc|c6|pc|cA|pg|| nt|poohbear: another woops|pg|| nt|vugraph7: Last round!|pg|| nt|swanson: Don't understand why Greco felt the need to rise with the @HA. |pg|| nt|tsanders: we are now entering the last round. Thank you all for coming. Congratulations to the winners! Terriffic commentary and excellent vugraph operator. Stay on BBO for more good bridge ...|pg|| nt|tsanders: broadcasts. Finally, thanks to the ACBL and BBO for making this presentation possible|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|o25|st||md|3SAT987HKJ6DA87C98,SJ62HT854D4CKQT76,SKQ43HAQ73DJ5CAJ4,S5H92DKQT9632C532|sv|e|nt|brolucius: Well, that is good of them. They have decided to play 2 more boards for our pleasure. Thanks, lads!|pg|| nt|kareno: Once more, two world-class, wonderful pairs face off. We're so lucky to be able to watch at tableside!!|pg|| mb|1C|an|strong|mb|2D|mb|2S|an|8+ GF 5+spades|mb|p|nt|brolucius: Strong club and WJO|pg|| nt|kareno: 6@s is making and well may be bid.|pg|| mb|3S|mb|p|mb|3N|an|choice of games|nt|brolucius: Not easy to reach. Let's see.|pg|| mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|dinos1: hard to bid - @hJ is 12th trick|pg|| pc|d4|nt|brolucius: Yes, too difficult - even for these stars|pg|| nt|kareno: A push board.|pg|| pc|d5|pc|dT|pc|dA|pg|| pc|s7|pc|s2|pc|sK|pc|s5|pg|| nt|kareno: These hands are hard to evaluate and the preempt did some damage.|pg|| mc|12|pg|| qx|c25|st||md|3SAT987HKJ6DA87C98,SJ62HT854D4CKQT76,SKQ43HAQ73DJ5CAJ4,S5H92DKQT9632C532|sv|e|nt|poohbear: And we finish with the champs|pg|| mb|1C!|mb|1D|mb|1S!|mb|p|nt|poohbear: The race is for 2nd place|pg|| nt|vugraph7: Eric and Geoff congratulated Meckwell when they arrived at the table|pg|| mb|2S|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3C|mb|p|mb|3D|mb|p|mb|3H|nt|poohbear: Rodwell might have bid 2d. but no real reason to. 1d conveys the same message and might mislead declarer later|pg|| mb|p|nt|tsanders: will they bid to the excellent 6@s?|pg|| nt|csimon: 6@s seems decent|pg|| nt|timb: Greco-Hampson see well on the way to the good 6@S |pg|| mb|3S|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d4|nt|ritong: susan, i have a request from matt meckstroth aka " minimeck", to congratulate his daddy :)|pg|| nt|vugraph7: ok, I will between the rounds.|pg|| pc|d5|pc|dT|pc|dA|pg|| pc|s7|pc|s6|pc|sK|pc|s5|pg|| nt|tsanders: yes, of course|pg|| nt|vugraph7: Rodwell said he was going to think for a minute --- Geoff said "that's fine, but it'll be a quick one" So Rodwell just played, and geoff claimed at trick 3.|pg|| mc|12|pg|| qx|o26|st||md|4S872HKQ742DAJ4CAK,SAKJ96HJT8DKCQT54,ST5HA95DQ972CJ982,SQ43H63DT8653C763|sv|b|nt|brolucius: Too difficult anyway, probably. Q/J of hearts are not easy to identify and the total values were minimal. |pg|| mb|p|mb|1C|an|strong|mb|1S|mb|d|an|assorted semi-positives|mb|r|nt|brolucius: He did not like to remove space with 2@S and had made a lead-directing RD instead.|pg|| nt|kareno: Important.. this redouble is for the lead. It says nothing about wanting to raise spades.|pg|| nt|dinos1: XX - high honor?|pg|| mb|2H|mb|p|nt|brolucius: Always better to raise if you can but East judged that he was too weak.|pg|| nt|vugraph9: didn't see explanation for XX|pg|| nt|kareno: If he bid 2@s he could be doubled and held to five tricks.|pg|| mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|dinos1: 6|pg|| nt|brolucius: Kibitzer says he prefers 2@S and so do I.|pg|| pc|sA|nt|kareno: Well, it's likely Rosenkranz (a favorite partner of Eddie Wold's), meaning I have a high honor.|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s4|pc|s7|pg|| nt|brolucius: Yes, it guarantees an honor and denies the values for a (space-removing and therefore desirable) raise. |pg|| nt|kareno: In any event, east is able to avoid the risky raise and still show an honor - good bid.|pg|| pc|sK|pc|sT|pc|s3|pc|s8|pg|| nt|kareno: When declarer falsecards, he is generally trying to give misinformation to the defense.|pg|| pc|h8|nt|kareno: A heart lead would have been good for the defense but they are naturally concerned about losing their tricks (and east did ask for a spade lead).|pg|| nt|kareno: I could write volumes about falsecards by declarer :) We'll save that topic for another tournament.|pg|| pc|h9|pc|h6|pc|h2|pg|| nt|dinos1: will take 11|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d6|pc|dJ|pc|dK|pg|| pc|hJ|nt|brolucius: What, 11 of Karen's volumes?|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h3|pc|hK|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s6|pc|hA|pc|sQ|pg|| nt|kareno: Better cross in clubs :)|pg|| nt|dinos1: wd Wold raise having @sQxx and @dKx?|pg|| nt|kareno: Perhaps, perhaps not. Not mandatory, for sure.|pg|| nt|brolucius: Absolutely mandatory, as I see it.|pg|| nt|dinos1: then play @d top|pg|| nt|kareno: Well, you've all seen some great bridge and some exciting hands. Come back next time!!|pg|| nt|brolucius: Yes, it was fun and a privilege to see the Reisinger final for the first time (for me)|pg|| nt|brolucius: Bye, everyone!|pg|| nt|kareno: Bye all :)|pg|| nt|dinos1: thx all, great bridge|pg|| nt|dinos1: bye :)|pg|| nt|kareno: www.acbl.org tomorrow morning for the last bulletin.|pg|| nt|kareno: Nothing available to us yet. |pg|| nt|vugraph9: hi guys ---- It's Susan (I snuck over to another computer)|pg|| nt|kareno: This event is over. We haven't gotten any final results yet. Check at www.acbl.org in the morning if we don't get 'em tonight.|pg|| nt|vugraph9: I have the standings through Round 12:|pg|| nt|ritong: you are everywhere!:))|pg|| nt|vugraph9: 1. Nickell 35.88|pg|| nt|vugraph9: 2. Brachman 31.44|pg|| nt|vugraph9: 3. Schwartz 30.5|pg|| nt|kareno: Nickell wins, then|pg|| nt|vugraph9: 4. Welland 29.9|pg|| nt|kareno: Congratulations to that great team for another win!!|pg|| nt|vugraph9: the trophy was just presented to Nickell down at the other end of the room --- I'll see if I can sneak the final results|pg|| nt|kareno: Thanks, Susan :)|pg|| nt|ritong: from Orlando Florida Nickell team, with Nick Nickell, Richard Freeman, Paul Soloway, Bob Hamman,Eric Rodwell and Jeff Meckstroth just won the Reisinger BaM event ...|pg|| nt|ritong: Congratulations to them ! Brachman team came second, Schwartz team came third.|pg|| nt|ritong: oops!|pg|| nt|kareno: I'm very happy for Malcolm Brachman, who is very, very ill at this time.|pg|| nt|kareno: Let's all send him some good thoughts.|pg|| nt|vugraph9: wait|pg|| nt|kareno: Yes..|pg|| nt|kareno: Got anything from the Swiss?|pg|| nt|vugraph9: sorry henri --- that's not the Final printout I just saw|pg|| nt|ritong: well, tell me:)|pg|| nt|vugraph9: (I think I have the most current info)|pg|| nt|vugraph9: With 1 round to go the order was Nickell-->Brachman-->Schwartz-->Welland....|pg|| nt|vugraph9: but the finals that I have (which won't be 100% official until any appeals pending are resolved) are:|pg|| nt|vugraph9: 1. Nickell 36.88|pg|| nt|vugraph9: 2. Schwartz 32.5|pg|| nt|vugraph9: 3. Brachman 32.44|pg|| nt|ritong: hm|pg|| nt|kareno: Close!!|pg|| nt|vugraph9: 4. Welland 30.4|pg|| nt|vugraph9: 5. Bertheau 6. Cayne 7. Jacobs|pg|| nt|kareno: Anything from the Swiss?|pg|| nt|vugraph9: schwartz picked up 2 full boards in the final round, and (as we saw) brachman only got 1|pg|| nt|vugraph9: Nothing yet from the Swiss... they were running behind, not sure if they've finished yet.|pg|| nt|kareno: Thanks so much for checking in :-)|pg|| nt|ritong: well, appeals pending..|pg|| nt|kareno: Are there appeals?|pg|| nt|vugraph9: No significant ones that I've heard of BUT I have to make the standard disclaimer|pg|| nt|vugraph9: since I can't be 100% sure|pg|| nt|ritong: oki|pg|| nt|kareno: Absolutely!!|pg|| nt|vugraph9: there's no Brachman-Schwartz appeal, for example. =)|pg|| nt|vugraph9: And now it's time for me to -really- say goodbye... all the action is out in the main hall. :)|pg|| nt|ritong: merci susan @h you did fabulous|pg|| nt|vugraph9: Always a pleasure. G'night!|pg|| nt|kareno: Goodnight :)|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|c26|st||md|4S872HKQ742DAJ4CAK,SAKJ96HJT8DKCQT54,ST5HA95DQ972CJ982,SQ43H63DT8653C763|sv|b|mb|p|mb|1C!|mb|1S|nt|vugraph7: I'll probably bolt after this hand ---- going to say hi in the actual "theater" two doors down. =)|pg|| mb|d!|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|nt|tsanders: X=5-7|pg|| mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|sK|nt|csimon: great going Susan - thanx for all the extra commentary!|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s3|pc|s7|pg|| nt|poohbear: Bye Susan|pg|| nt|poohbear: Thanks|pg|| nt|vugraph7: Was fun =)|pg|| pc|hJ|nt|poohbear: indeed:)|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h3|pc|hK|pg|| nt|poohbear: Ladies and Gentlemen . Our Vugraph operator Susan Doty:)|pg|| pc|s2|pc|sJ|pc|sT|pc|s4|pg|| pc|h8|pc|hA|pc|h6|pc|h2|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c7|pc|cA|pc|c4|pg|| pc|s8|pc|s9|pc|h9|pc|sQ|pg|| nt|poohbear: now can play for dbltn 10 or stiff king in @D|pg|| pc|d9|pc|dT|pc|dJ|pc|dK|pg|| nt|csimon: or stiff 8|pg|| pc|sA|nt|vugraph7: bye guys!|pg|| nt|poohbear: stiff 8 no help|pg|| nt|ritong: merci a tous !:)|pg|| nt|poohbear: bye all\|pg|| nt|vugraph7: round still has 8 minutes, will be a bit before results are available|pg|| nt|csimon: nite all :)|pg|| mc|10|pg||