vg|2004 NABC Senior KO Team,1st quarter final,I,1,16,Bennett,0,Ames,0| rs|6CS=,6CS=,3NS+1,3NS=,3HN=,2HS+1,4SW-1,2SW+2,4SE=,3SW+1,3CS-3,PASS,4SW+1,4SW+1,4HW-2,4SE-1,4DE=,4CN-2,3CS=,2SW+1,2NE+1,3NE=,PASS,1NN=,4HW+1,4SW+1,4SE-1,4SE=,2SS+1,3NN-1,3NS-3,4CN=| pn|Shuman,Egan,Noda,Beery,Koch,Larsen,Ames,Simpson|pg|| qx|o1|st||md|3SA653HA3DKCKQ9876,SQT8HJT752D76CA54,SK9HK984DAQJT4CJT,SJ742HQ6D98532C32|sv|o|nt|Walddk2: Good morning/afternoon everyone and welcome to Orlando in Florida|pg|| nt|Walddk2: We are about to watch the seniors' final|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Welcome to two of your commentators: Luis Argerich of Argentina and Isabel Leitão of Portugal|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Hola Luis and Isabel|pg|| nt|lebasi: hello everybody|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Shortly we will be joined by Richie Reisig who will introduce the players for us|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Ames came through in a nailbiting finish last night, winning by 2 IMPs against Rosenkranz|pg|| mb|1D|mb|p|nt|Walddk2: Ames has done extremely well. Seeded 23 in the even and overcome very tough opponents|pg|| mb|2C|mb|p|nt|Walddk2: event|pg|| nt|lrargerich: Hi all|pg|| mb|2H|mb|p|nt|Walddk2: So slam on first board, this look exciting|pg|| mb|2S|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3C|mb|p|nt|Walddk2: 6NT is obviously the best slam, no annoying ruffs possible|pg|| mb|4C|mb|p|nt|lrargerich: Strange Noda didn't bid 3@d instead of 4@c|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Make your partner happy and support. Shuman will be thrilled to hear 4@C|pg|| nt|lebasi: i think it's not difficult to bid one slam with these cards|pg|| nt|Walddk2: A very good morning to our operator in Orlando: Diane Beyer|pg|| mb|4D|an|key card|nt|vugraph7: hello!|pg|| nt|lebasi: good morning Diane|pg|| mb|p|mb|4S|an|1or 4|nt|lebasi: easy to bid 6@c n not difficult to bid 6NT|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Kickback Romen Keycard. Good treatment if a minor is agreed|pg|| mb|p|mb|6C|nt|Walddk2: Flat board in about 39 seconds|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hJ|pc|h4|pc|h6|pc|hA|pg|| pc|c7|pc|c5|pc|cT|pc|c2|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|c3|pc|cQ|pc|cA|pg|| pc|h2|pc|hK|pc|hQ|pc|h3|pg|| mc|12|pg|| qx|c1|st||md|3SA653HA3DKCKQ9876,SQT8HJT752D76CA54,SK9HK984DAQJT4CJT,SJ742HQ6D98532C32|sv|o|nt|Walddk3: Welcome to your commentators for the final segment: Sergey Kustarov from Russia and John Stewart, Canada|pg|| nt|stewball: hiya sergey:)..hi everyone welcom|pg|| nt|dinos1: hi everybody|pg|| nt|dinos1: hi John|pg|| nt|stewball: rosenkrantz recovered alsost 40 imps last quarter to draw even|pg|| nt|dinos1: in last segment IMP's fly from one team to another|pg|| mb|1D|mb|p|nt|stewball: and now they have their strongest lineup with their sponser sitting out|pg|| mb|2C|mb|p|nt|stewball: hi everyone|pg|| mb|2N|mb|p|nt|dinos1: the more interesting it will be :)|pg|| mb|3S|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|nt|stewball: 1st Quarter,seniors final|pg|| nt|udo: hi all, hi john|pg|| nt|stewball: hiya udo|pg|| mb|4C|nt|stewball: quiet parstcore to start..looks like 110 or so|pg|| nt|Walddk3: Welcome to our expert from New Zealand: Wayne Burrows|pg|| nt|stewball: hey wayne|pg|| nt|dinos1: hi Wayne|pg|| nt|cascade: Hi Roland, John and Sergey|pg|| mb|p|nt|udo: so , now they should rech 6 @C or 6 NT :))|pg|| nt|vugraph9: Ames - Koch play a forcing club system Simpson-Larsen play 2/1|pg|| nt|stewball: Ames won what had to be considered a big upset vs Rosenkrantz yesterday|pg|| mb|6C|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|udo: nothing to the play here, 12 tricks|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h4|pc|h6|pc|hA|pg|| pc|c6|pc|c4|pc|cJ|pc|c2|pg|| pc|cT|pc|c3|pc|cK|pc|cA|pg|| nt|stewball: very efficient auction,,ames no doubt felt he had plenty in reserve for 3NT and made up for it with 6@c|pg|| pc|h5|pc|hK|pc|hQ|pc|h3|pg|| pc|h8|nt|stewball: in fact he was a bit fortunate perhaps to get another bid over 3NT|pg|| mc|12|nt|cascade: So IMPs to Ames here|pg|| pg|| qx|o2|st||md|4SA7HJ865DAKQTCQ63,SJ862HK43D62CT542,SQT943HATDJ43CAJ9,SK5HQ972D9875CK87|sv|n|mb|p|nt|Walddk2: This 3NT won't cause much of a problem|pg|| nt|Walddk2: It takes some effort to go down|pg|| mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2H|nt|Walddk2: Undo please Diane|pg|| nt|lebasi: error... undo!|pg|| mb|p|mb|2S|nt|lebasi: 2@h?|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Never mind now. 3NT will be the contract anyway|pg|| mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c4|pc|c9|pc|c7|pc|c3|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s5|pc|sA|pc|s2|pg|| pc|s7|pc|s6|pc|s9|pc|sK|pg|| nt|Walddk2: 1 IMP at stake|pg|| pc|d9|pc|dT|pc|d6|pc|dJ|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|h2|pc|h5|pc|s8|pg|| nt|Walddk2: 11 tricks now and 2 IMPs actually|pg|| nt|lebasi: i think it will be nice if we can skip some boards!!|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d5|pc|dK|pc|d2|pg|| pc|c6|pc|c2|pc|cJ|pc|cK|pg|| nt|lebasi: i like "blood":-))|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Is this really how it went?|pg|| pc|h7|pc|h6|nt|Walddk2: declarer exited with @CJ from dummy?|pg|| pc|hK|pc|hA|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Beats me I must admit|pg|| pc|hT|pc|hQ|pc|h8|pc|h3|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|c2|st||md|4SA7HJ865DAKQTCQ63,SJ862HK43D62CT542,SQT943HATDJ43CAJ9,SK5HQ972D9875CK87|sv|n|nt|stewball: i assume ferguson/bates playing in the open room?|pg|| mb|p|nt|udo: yes , agree, i wopuld feel not good, to bid 3 SA, and hear partner pass, but has he an alternative bid >?|pg|| mb|1N!|an|15-17|nt|stewball: not comfortably no|pg|| mb|p|nt|stewball: my spies tell me yes|pg|| mb|2H!|mb|p|mb|2S|nt|dinos1: it's seen in movie :)|pg|| mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|dinos1: right-sided 4@h :)|pg|| nt|cascade: a routine 4@h and slam on a non-spade lead but dont expect them to get that high|pg|| nt|dinos1: else 2 @d ruffs wd beat it|pg|| nt|stewball: this is kokish's invention....2@h is either natural or a balanced 25+|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c9|pc|cK|pc|c3|pg|| nt|stewball: 2@s was forced and 2NT showed the balanced hand,,|pg|| pc|c8|nt|cascade: Chambers is transfering to hearts and not going any further|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c4|pc|cJ|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s2|pc|s3|pc|s5|pg|| nt|dinos1: same 13 tricks|pg|| pc|s7|nt|stewball: i'm guessing 9 tricks only on the routine @s misguess|pg|| pc|s8|nt|stewball: Q|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|sK|pg|| pc|c7|pc|c6|pc|c5|pc|cA|pg|| nt|cascade: are there 13?|pg|| pc|sT|nt|dinos1: if play @d to K|pg|| pc|d8|pc|h5|nt|cascade: yes|pg|| pc|sJ|pg|| nt|stewball: % play in the @s suit|pg|| pc|cT|pc|hT|pc|h2|pc|h6|pg|| pc|h4|pc|hA|pc|h7|pc|h8|pg|| nt|stewball: must do it now....|pg|| nt|udo: ok 9 and next one:)|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|o3|st||md|1S42HQT86DJ3CKQ732,SKJ93HKJDT9864C84,SAQT7HA532D72CJT5,S865H974DAKQ5CA96|sv|e|mb|p|mb|p|nt|lrargerich: 2@h or 3@c making 9 tricks for NS. EW have 2@d and some chances in 3@d|pg|| mb|1H|mb|d|mb|2C|an|3 card limit raise|nt|Walddk2: Do you all double 1@H with that hand?|pg|| mb|2S|nt|Walddk2: OK I confess, I would not|pg|| nt|lebasi: i don't|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|3H|nt|Walddk2: passed partner, vul against not, 4333 and 3 little spades. Odds against surely|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|dA|pc|d3|pc|dT|pc|d2|pg|| pc|s5|nt|lebasi: 3 little @s n 3 little @h n A with 2 little @c.... i 'd pass|pg|| pc|s2|pc|sK|pc|sA|pg|| pc|hA|nt|Walddk2: A spade into dummy's tenace???|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h6|pc|hJ|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Is this real or am I dreaming?|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h7|pc|hT|pc|hK|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d7|pc|dQ|pc|dJ|pg|| nt|Walddk2: ahhh Sorry, North is declarer, so I *was* dreaming, sorry|pg|| pc|h9|pc|hQ|pc|c4|pc|h3|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|c3|st||md|1S42HQT86DJ3CKQ732,SKJ93HKJDT9864C84,SAQT7HA532D72CJT5,S865H974DAKQ5CA96|sv|e|nt|mikeh: what we saw after 2@C 2@D was the kokish relay: 2@H forces 2@S and is based on either @h, as 1-suiter or two-suiter, or a hand too big to rebid 2N over 2@D|pg|| nt|mikeh: sorry, john, u were ahead of me|pg|| nt|mikeh: :)|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|mikeh: I have to pay more attention:)|pg|| mb|1D!|an|Short?|mb|p|nt|stewball: well it took me 2 paragraphs ,u did it in one|pg|| mb|1H|nt|mikeh: ames has less incentive than standard bidders to keep the auction alive, sine ns play a big club method|pg|| nt|stewball: anyone else hate the pass of 1@s?|pg|| nt|dinos1: but long one :)|pg|| nt|udo: 2 @H s limit for NS ?|pg|| mb|p|mb|2H|nt|stewball: at this vul it doesnt seem like a winning tactic|pg|| nt|mikeh: I don't mind it in the context of the method... I like to hold an Ace or at least a King when I respond light|pg|| mb|p|nt|stewball: regardless of their methods|pg|| nt|cascade: Pass is quite common opposite a limited 1@s|pg|| nt|stewball: never:)|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|pc|dT|nt|dinos1: I vote for pass :)|pg|| pc|d2|pc|dQ|nt|cascade: if i could bid a non-forcing 2@c I would do that|pg|| nt|dinos1: who play 2@c as NF? :)|pg|| pc|d3|pg|| nt|stewball: this 2@h bid is likely tactical given Koch is a passed hand|pg|| pc|c6|nt|cascade: some strong club systems allow a non-forcing 2@c|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c4|pc|cJ|pg|| nt|dinos1: and the only forcing is 1n?|pg|| pc|hA|nt|mikeh: but do they not have it as at least constructive? otherwise the forcing notrump becomes overloaded, if it has to contain invitational hands as well as big ones?|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h6|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h7|nt|udo: larsen would need a third @H, to get his ruff:)|pg|| pc|hT|pc|hK|pg|| pc|d6|nt|stewball: the 1@d bid stole the opps suit|pg|| pc|d7|pc|dK|nt|cascade: yes normally constructive |pg|| pc|dJ|pg|| nt|udo: yes and 9 tricks now|pg|| pc|h9|pc|hQ|pc|d4|nt|cascade: but with 6421 hand you can upgrade a little|pg|| pc|h3|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c8|pc|cT|pc|cA|pg|| pc|c9|pc|cK|pc|d9|pc|c5|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|d8|pc|s7|pc|s5|pg|| pc|c7|pc|s3|pc|sT|pc|s6|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s9|pc|sQ|mc|9|pg|| qx|o4|st||md|2SK4HQ2DA875CKQJ65,SJT9752HA7DKJ9CA4,SQ6HK8543DT4CT872,SA83HJT96DQ632C93|sv|b|mb|1S|mb|p|nt|reisig: good morning:)|pg|| mb|2S|nt|Walddk2: Good morning to Richie Reisig from USA :-)|pg|| nt|lebasi: good afternoon:-))|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Could you introduce the players please Richie|pg|| mb|3C|nt|reisig: not fair for us old timers to get up this early:))|pg|| mb|3D|mb|p|nt|reisig: Wish I could ...except for Mike Shuman|pg|| mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c2|nt|Walddk2: The defence on the right track now|pg|| pc|c3|pc|cJ|pc|cA|pg|| nt|Walddk2: 1 lkoser in each suit if they defend properly|pg|| nt|Walddk2: *loser even|pg|| nt|reisig: Our friend Chris Larsen is at the other table|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s6|pc|sA|pc|s4|pg|| pc|s3|pc|sK|pc|s9|pc|sQ|pg|| nt|reisig: Cash 1 @c and ....?|pg|| nt|Walddk2: But Shuman must be careful of course|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c4|pc|c7|pc|c9|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Will he Richie?|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Heart needed now|pg|| nt|reisig: yes|pg|| nt|reisig: but his partner didn't help with that @c spot|pg|| nt|lebasi: it will be difficult to play @h but @c doesn't matter n @d ...|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Good point Richie|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Noda should have followed with @C10|pg|| nt|reisig: Noda should play @c 10 on 2nd @c|pg|| pc|h2|pc|hA|pc|h3|pc|h6|pg|| nt|reisig: I got that one right:)|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d4|pc|d2|pc|dA|pg|| nt|reisig: maybe the last time|pg|| nt|reisig: Mike is a fine player|pg|| nt|reisig: Even without help from partner|pg|| nt|lebasi: yes, life would have been much easier if N played 10@c but S didn't have another chance, i think|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h7|pc|h4|pc|h9|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|c4|st||md|2SK4HQ2DA875CKQJ65,SJT9752HA7DKJ9CA4,SQ6HK8543DT4CT872,SA83HJT96DQ632C93|sv|b|nt|stewball: so 110 and a push|pg|| mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2S|nt|stewball: can someone in the gallery tell me if this is Chris or Kyle Larsen?|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|stewball: i would note that bates responded in the other room:)|pg|| nt|udo: should south bid now ? 3 @C ?|pg|| mb|p|nt|stewball: i'm told its Chris ty|pg|| nt|vugraph9: Chris|pg|| pc|dT|nt|dinos1: he doesnt play strong @c:)|pg|| pc|d2|nt|stewball: not very enterprising by Koch here,,,perhaps 2NT would have been natural and/or stronger|pg|| pc|dA|pc|dJ|pg|| pc|d5|pc|dK|pc|d4|nt|stewball: lots of non strong club hands make game|pg|| nt|cascade: yes especially if there is a heart fit|pg|| nt|dinos1: 2@s bid has warned that 4@h won't be good contract|pg|| pc|d3|pg|| nt|mikeh: I like the 2@H bid: I think it shows good evaluation of the aceless shape, but he would have felt he was holding back, so even though the @SK ought to be devalued, he couldn't help ...|pg|| nt|mikeh: himself|pg|| nt|vugraph9: In the other match|pg|| nt|vugraph9: 1 Colchamiro 75 4 Bennett 128|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|sQ|pc|sA|nt|stewball: a little surprised he didnt try 3NT if he's going to bid game....|pg|| nt|vugraph9: In the Blue Ribbon Pairs|pg|| pc|s4|pg|| pc|s3|pc|sK|pc|s5|pc|s6|pg|| pc|cK|pc|cA|pc|c8|pc|c3|pg|| pc|d9|pc|h3|nt|dinos1: yes - if bid game then rather 3n|pg|| pc|d6|nt|vugraph9: Sabine Auken - Daniella Von Arnim lead by 5 MPs with one session to go|pg|| pc|d7|pg|| nt|stewball: can any recall a women pair winning the blue ribbons before?|pg|| nt|mikeh: but he knows that if south has great @H and @C, he cannot hold a @D stopper as well, so 9 tricks seems very unlikely. He is hoping, I assume, for a good 5-5 or better|pg|| nt|udo: soon claim for 9|pg|| nt|udo: 10:)|pg|| nt|vugraph9: Pitch a club, lose a @h in the end|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|o5|st||md|3SA84HJ63DJ63CJT94,ST63HQ5DKQ9872CK5,SQ5H982DA4CAQ8732,SKJ972HAKT74DT5C6|sv|n|nt|Walddk2: A heart could easily have been wrong|pg|| nt|reisig: indeed|pg|| nt|Walddk2: NS might have had 2 cashing diamond tricks|pg|| nt|reisig: They may bid this lucky game|pg|| nt|lebasi: oh closed room r very calm...|pg|| mb|1C|mb|1S|nt|reisig: not 2@c?|pg|| mb|2C|mb|3C|nt|reisig: well...someone bid 2@c :))|pg|| mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|cJ|nt|Walddk2: 6 IMPs back to Ames|pg|| nt|Walddk2: We have all been in worse games. Beery gets lucky here|pg|| pc|cK|pc|cA|pc|c6|pg|| nt|reisig: His 3@c cue bid is a questionable call|pg|| pc|h8|pc|h4|nt|Walddk2: I believe Egan is a woman|pg|| pc|h3|pc|hQ|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s5|nt|reisig: The @c King looks sorta wasted|pg|| pc|s9|pc|s4|pg|| nt|reisig: No comment|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d3|pc|dK|nt|Walddk2: Was referring to your "his" Richie :-)|pg|| pc|dA|pg|| nt|reisig: Duck smoothly?|pg|| nt|Walddk2: I am sure Egan is a fine player when she makes it to the final|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|s2|pc|c4|pc|c5|pg|| pc|dT|pc|d6|pc|dQ|pc|d4|pg|| pc|s6|pc|sQ|pc|sK|nt|Walddk2: Ames is the only team that has played 4-handed throughout. That takes a lot of stamina|pg|| pc|sA|pg|| nt|lrargerich: But prevents broken feelings :-)|pg|| pc|s8|pc|sT|nt|lrargerich: And the famous "oh dear we put the wrong formation" excuse|pg|| pc|c7|pc|s7|pg|| nt|lebasi: lol|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|c5|st||md|3SA84HJ63DJ63CJT94,ST63HQ5DKQ9872CK5,SQ5H982DA4CAQ8732,SKJ972HAKT74DT5C6|sv|n|nt|udo: both sides bid conservative here in my opinion|pg|| mb|2C!|an|11-15 Clubs, may have major if 5 cards|nt|stewball: more pushes in this quarter already than the whole 3rd quarter|pg|| nt|dinos1: will you bid 4@h with @sxxx @hQJx @dxxxx @cKxx?|pg|| nt|udo: could bring some action here |pg|| nt|stewball: well they just finished breakfast:)|pg|| mb|3C|an|Majors|nt|udo: 4@S from larsen now ?|pg|| mb|p|nt|mikeh: yes, partner will pull of course with that, but it is very difficult to construct a hand on which 3N is better than 4@H and the risk of undertricks will be much greater in the ...|pg|| nt|mikeh: former|pg|| nt|reisig: 2@c risky|pg|| nt|stewball: auctions starting with 2@c are one of the major weaknesses of a big club system|pg|| mb|3S|mb|p|nt|cascade: yes to minimize undertricks you need two spade stoppers or more values|pg|| nt|mikeh: esp opp a passed hand, and since 2@Cx making is low cost for opps|pg|| nt|stewball: ive been advised that no womens PAIR has won the blue ribbons...would be a great coup for them|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|stewball: because of the wide range,,some systems would require a 1@d start with Ames hand|pg|| pc|dA|nt|reisig: with 7 easy tricks ...will gain a bit|pg|| nt|mikeh: that looks like a conservative view by schermer, with the equivalent of a 13 count in prime cards|pg|| nt|dinos1: yes - his @c's = AK :)|pg|| nt|reisig: 4-3-3-3 not a great shape|pg|| nt|cascade: yes but bad shape and no 10s|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d6|nt|cascade: but his @c42 are worthless|pg|| nt|dinos1: and the only 4cd is @c :)|pg|| pc|d7|pg|| nt|mikeh: yes, the @C9 would probably have been enough for him to bid game|pg|| nt|mikeh: and it depends on partner's opening bid style|pg|| nt|udo: agree 3@S john ?|pg|| nt|stewball: nope|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c6|pc|c4|pc|c5|pg|| nt|udo: when p can go to the 3-level. i think he has to bid 4 @S|pg|| pc|c2|nt|mikeh: I meant nothing negative with the 'conservative' comment: I am a card-carrying member of the chicken society:)|pg|| nt|reisig: If he had @c 9 ..he'd pass and collect|pg|| pc|dT|pc|cT|pc|cK|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s5|pc|sJ|pc|s4|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h3|nt|stewball: well its a matter of style but when he's guessing he might as well guess with the bigger upside|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h2|pg|| nt|stewball: active defense was not the way to go here......better to just push cards|pg|| nt|stewball: odd that schermer didnt cover the @d 9|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d4|pc|h7|pc|d3|pg|| nt|cascade: yes the diamond is the 8th trick|pg|| nt|stewball: in my partnerships 4@s would be routine|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|sQ|pc|sK|pc|dJ|pg|| nt|reisig: now the @s is|pg|| pc|hA|nt|dinos1: in 3n he wd duck @s|pg|| pc|h6|nt|cascade: unusual cover of the @s9|pg|| nt|mikeh: yes, why not the @C suit? what was the hurry?|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h9|pg|| pc|hT|pc|hJ|pc|s6|pc|h8|pg|| pc|sT|pc|c3|pc|s2|pc|sA|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|o6|st||md|4SJ962HJ87DAT5CK64,SA873HT64DK64CAT5,SK5HA92DJ732CQ987,SQT4HKQ53DQ98CJ32|sv|e|nt|reisig: We use the "who wants to play" system|pg|| nt|Walddk2: How did that work Richie? :-)|pg|| nt|lrargerich: And then flip a coin?|pg|| nt|reisig: :))|pg|| nt|lebasi: i agree with this Passed out|pg|| mb|p|nt|reisig: Anyone tired ... just walks away|pg|| nt|Walddk2: It hurts to pass 5 controls, but I would too|pg|| nt|lrargerich: The best method I've seen was the captain asking the players what time it was|pg|| mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|nt|Walddk2: Not so Egan, tough woman|pg|| mb|2C|an|3 card support|nt|Walddk2: 2@C is Drury|pg|| nt|lebasi: and Luis?|pg|| nt|reisig: 1@s is not my choice|pg|| nt|lrargerich: Once I answered 11:30 am and it was 17:20pm so I didn't play :-)|pg|| mb|p|mb|2S|nt|lebasi: ehheheeh|pg|| mb|2N|an|minors|mb|p|nt|reisig: if you said ..1PM ..they'd say "close enough"|pg|| nt|Walddk2: I am sure people accuse you of many things Richie, but no one has ever claimed you're a woman .... or? :-)|pg|| nt|reisig: :)))|pg|| mb|3C|nt|lrargerich: Missing pass OP|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|Walddk2: I think we need a couple of undos here|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Maybe not|pg|| nt|lrargerich: Oh my god, there's no missing pass !!!!|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Why Noda wanted to take over I will never know. I am not there to ask him|pg|| nt|reisig: Nothing wrong ...sanity pills were not taken today|pg|| nt|lebasi: no violation of the Burn's Law|pg|| pc|h4|nt|lrargerich: The bidding was better in the closed room|pg|| nt|lebasi: i agree|pg|| nt|Walddk2: True, but perhaps a violation of common sense|pg|| pc|h2|pc|hQ|pc|h8|pg|| nt|lebasi: perhaps|pg|| pc|s4|nt|Walddk2: That's allowed, you just write minuses on your scoresheet|pg|| pc|s2|pc|sA|pc|s5|pg|| pc|h6|pc|hA|pc|h3|pc|h7|pg|| pc|sK|pc|sT|pc|s6|pc|s3|pg|| pc|h9|pc|hK|pc|hJ|pc|hT|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s9|pc|s7|pc|c7|pg|| nt|Walddk2: There's a famous German expression: Plusschreiben und gewinnen|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Care to translate Richie?|pg|| nt|reisig: no thanks:))|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Write pluses and win|pg|| pc|c8|pc|c2|pc|c4|pc|cT|pg|| pc|s8|pc|d2|pc|c3|pc|sJ|pg|| nt|reisig: down 4?|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|cK|pc|c5|pc|c9|pg|| pc|c6|pc|cA|pc|cQ|nt|lebasi: 5 imp's|pg|| pc|h5|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d3|nt|reisig: ducked the ace to be endplayed?|pg|| pc|d9|pc|dT|pg|| nt|lebasi: 4 imp's|pg|| mc|6|pg|| qx|c6|st||md|4SJ962HJ87DAT5CK64,SA873HT64DK64CAT5,SK5HA92DJ732CQ987,SQT4HKQ53DQ98CJ32|sv|e|nt|reisig: new leader|pg|| nt|mikeh: another lead change|pg|| nt|stewball: regardless i think he was always making 8 tricks|pg|| nt|reisig: I think ...the last lead change|pg|| nt|stewball: they won the hand in the auction|pg|| nt|cascade: yes|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|stewball: a very slow start to this match compared to the fireworks last night|pg|| pg|| qx|o7|st||md|1S42H532DQ984CKT92,SJ987HKQ8DK52C863,SKT6H974DJT763CQJ,SAQ53HAJT6DACA754|sv|b|mb|p|mb|p|nt|reisig: This board looks relatively flay|pg|| nt|reisig: flat|pg|| mb|p|mb|1C|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|4D|an|splinter/stiff|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|Walddk2: Som don't like to splinter with a singleton ace. I have no strong preference|pg|| pc|h4|nt|lrargerich: I don't like it|pg|| nt|lebasi: i don't like too|pg|| pc|h6|nt|lrargerich: Makes pd missevaluate a king in the suit|pg|| pc|h2|nt|reisig: I like having as many aces as possible...so I do it|pg|| nt|lebasi: but what do we bid with E hand?|pg|| pc|h8|pg|| nt|Walddk2: I do because a raise to 4@S would deny a splinter, quite simple :-)|pg|| nt|reisig: 4@d|pg|| pc|s7|pc|s6|pc|sQ|pc|s2|pg|| nt|Walddk2: 4@D|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s4|pc|s8|nt|lrargerich: 4@s|pg|| pc|sT|pg|| nt|reisig: but you make a face when doing it?|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d4|pc|d2|pc|d3|pg|| pc|hT|pc|h5|pc|hK|pc|h7|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h9|pc|hA|pc|h3|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|d8|pc|c3|nt|Walddk2: They are playing extremely fast in the closed room; board 14 now!|pg|| nt|Walddk2: A couple of passouts help of course|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|c7|st||md|1S42H532DQ984CKT92,SJ987HKQ8DK52C863,SKT6H974DJT763CQJ,SAQ53HAJT6DACA754|sv|b|nt|dinos1: that's why i said about guess from 2 @h layout|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1C|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|nt|reisig: no X .. no trouble?|pg|| nt|mikeh: I have to go: been fun... enjoy all|pg|| nt|reisig: bye Mike|pg|| mb|p|nt|dinos1: bye|pg|| mb|p|nt|stewball: i would prefer some more decriptive bid than 4@s but perhaps they dont have one|pg|| pc|dT|pc|dA|nt|dinos1: @dQ?|pg|| nt|cascade: the winning line is to play diamonds|pg|| nt|cascade: He is short of tricks so he is going to need the diamonds eventually maybe that is enough of a clue to start them|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d5|pg|| pc|sA|nt|dinos1: why short? he isnt in game|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s8|pc|s6|pg|| pc|sQ|nt|dinos1: 1@s 1@d and 2@h to lose|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s7|pc|sK|pg|| pc|sT|pc|s3|nt|udo: sy john, must leave now :(((( much to do , cu all, and good luck|pg|| nt|vugraph9: In contrast to last night, these four are playing lickety-split!|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|o8|st||md|2SA3HJT87DA93CAT87,SQ4HAQ6432DKQ8CQ6,SK6H5DJT654CJ5432,SJT98752HK9D72CK9|sv|o|mb|1H|nt|lrargerich: 4 top losers in 4@s|pg|| mb|p|mb|1S|nt|Walddk2: Mere detail Luis|pg|| mb|p|mb|3H|nt|lebasi: great comment Roland:-)|pg|| mb|p|nt|Walddk2: I think 3@H is an overbid. Am I alone?|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Not a great suit, and Qx clubs|pg|| nt|reisig: with that "great" suit?|pg|| mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|nt|Walddk2: You were wrong Luis. 5 top losers :-)|pg|| mb|p|nt|lebasi: i think so but i prefer 3 at 2|pg|| nt|reisig: They play stong @c?|pg|| nt|Walddk2: No|pg|| nt|lebasi: i bided 3@h also|pg|| pc|d5|nt|reisig: When I have 4 queens ...no jumping|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Must be because we are not women, Richie. Egan and Isabel bid 3@H|pg|| pc|d2|pc|dA|pc|d8|pg|| nt|lrargerich: I said 4 top losers in 4@s :-)|pg|| nt|lebasi: really Rich??|pg|| nt|Walddk2: ahh right|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s4|pc|s6|pc|s2|pg|| nt|reisig: unless super strong|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c6|pc|c2|pc|c9|pg|| pc|s3|pc|sQ|pc|sK|pc|s5|pg|| nt|lrargerich: I agree with Rich |pg|| nt|reisig: that hand stinks .. to me|pg|| pc|c3|pc|cK|pc|c7|pc|cQ|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|c8|st||md|2SA3HJT87DA93CAT87,SQ4HAQ6432DKQ8CQ6,SK6H5DJT654CJ5432,SJT98752HK9D72CK9|sv|o|mb|1H|mb|p|nt|stewball: ok folks i have a commitment after this hand,,,let me know how it turns out:)|pg|| nt|vugraph9: The tray hardly comes to rest, then is passed back under the screen|pg|| mb|1S|nt|cascade: bye John|pg|| nt|reisig: bye John|pg|| nt|dinos1: bye|pg|| mb|p|mb|2H|nt|reisig: I'd bid 3N here|pg|| nt|stewball: chambers was going to show a balanced 3 card raise|pg|| mb|p|nt|dinos1: 3n or 4@c?|pg|| mb|2S|nt|cascade: what range?|pg|| mb|p|mb|3S|nt|stewball: 9-11|pg|| mb|p|nt|reisig: a bad 9|pg|| nt|cascade: i think 4@H is wrong|pg|| mb|4S|nt|cascade: yes and it is worse after 2@h by Koch|pg|| nt|reisig: the @s king looks bad|pg|| nt|dinos1: same useless @sK :)|pg|| nt|cascade: and any heart honours rate to be offside|pg|| nt|stewball: just look at all those 10s:)|pg|| nt|cascade: and one of his minor suits will be badly placed|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d3|pc|dK|pc|d6|pc|d7|pg|| nt|stewball: this had a chance on a @d lead,,no shot here|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s6|nt|cascade: what range is 1@h 2@h directly likely to be - worse than 9-11?|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|sA|pg|| nt|stewball: i think he simply judged the hand too good with all those 10s|pg|| nt|dinos1: 10's are good in NT|pg|| nt|cascade: so you think he was going to raise to 3@H?|pg|| nt|stewball: yes|pg|| nt|cascade: no aces I don't like that - the 10s just make up for the Queens and Jacks|pg|| nt|dinos1: yes|pg|| nt|vugraph9: In coming together this morning, the 4-handed Ames team - Tony Ames and John Koch looked much more rested than Mary Egan and Rod Beery|pg|| pc|s3|pc|sQ|pc|sK|pc|s2|pg|| nt|stewball: you guys are tough:)|pg|| pc|d4|nt|dinos1: in suit some of your pts will be useless|pg|| pc|d2|pc|dA|pc|d8|pg|| pc|cA|nt|stewball: Chris' hand here is not worth its count with all those queens..he has a lot of losers to expect game to have a good play I think|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|o9|st||md|3SJ732HK9852DT2CQ9,SAT95HJT63DAKJ3C3,S864HAD54CAKJ8742,SKQHQ74DQ9876CT65|sv|e|nt|Walddk2: It's perhaps a 2½@H bid and should be downgraded for many reasons - vulnerability is one|pg|| nt|reisig: Not even 2 1/2 to me|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Don't push too hard if you are non vul|pg|| mb|1C|mb|p|nt|lrargerich: a 2@h bid was fine to me|pg|| mb|1H|mb|d|nt|lebasi: sorry but i'm in doubt if i should had bid 2 or 3 @h|pg|| mb|2C|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|3C|nt|reisig: they will play in 3 or 4 @d (EW)|pg|| mb|3D|nt|lrargerich: With a better break 4@h would have been an interesting game |pg|| mb|p|mb|4D|mb|p|nt|Walddk2: Predictions are our speciality. We lose lots of cokes|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|pc|cQ|pc|c3|nt|Walddk2: Richie just won a pint of low fat milk|pg|| nt|reisig: :)))|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c5|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h4|pc|h8|pc|h3|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d9|pc|dT|nt|reisig: Next hand pls:)|pg|| pc|dJ|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d4|pc|d6|pc|d2|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Yes, if you don't want to beat it, you don't|pg|| nt|reisig: Now makes 5 IF @s Jack drops|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s4|pc|sQ|pc|s3|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Straightforward defence would have defeated 4@D :-)|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s2|pc|s9|pc|s6|pg|| pc|c6|pc|c9|pc|d3|pc|c2|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s8|pc|h7|pc|s7|pg|| nt|reisig: @h lead ..and low @c back -- is normal?|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Double dummy? Sure :-)|pg|| nt|lrargerich: No, just straightforward|pg|| nt|reisig: :)))|pg|| nt|lrargerich: I'm back from disastrous underleads yesterday pd did have the dK (I had AQJxx)|pg|| nt|lrargerich: The last underlead let declarer make the singleton spade queen :-)|pg|| nt|lrargerich: With xx in dummy|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Well deserved Sir L|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Someone led queen from AQJ yesterday|pg|| nt|lrargerich: That's good if you know the K is in dummy|pg|| nt|Walddk2: It didn't matter, king was in dummy, but when I do a thing like that, my RHO wins his singleton king|pg|| nt|lrargerich: Then declarer says " Oh did I win this?" and pd becomes mad|pg|| nt|lebasi: hum|pg|| nt|reisig: I played with PO in this event..and we were done 3 boards ahead of our teammates ...three times!!|pg|| nt|lrargerich: What did you put in his water?|pg|| nt|macaw: or their water|pg|| nt|reisig: :)) I play a tad quicker than he does|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Which doesn't mean a lot|pg|| nt|lrargerich: Who doesn't ?|pg|| nt|reisig: I didn't say better ...quicker|pg|| nt|lrargerich: What's happening here? Break?|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|c9|st||md|3SJ732HK9852DT2CQ9,SAT95HJT63DAKJ3C3,S864HAD54CAKJ8742,SKQHQ74DQ9876CT65|sv|e|nt|stewball: in my opinion anyway|pg|| mb|2C!|mb|p|nt|dinos1: so better bid just 2@h :)|pg|| mb|2D!|an|Describe further?|nt|stewball: anyway,have fun,,see y'all next time|pg|| nt|cascade: bye|pg|| nt|reisig: I don't like Pass ...over 3@s|pg|| nt|cascade: 13 tricks available here EW|pg|| nt|stewball: note the diff in this 2@c from board 5|pg|| mb|p|mb|3C|nt|reisig: what now? maybe 5N|pg|| mb|3D|mb|p|nt|dinos1: 4 ok|pg|| nt|dinos1: now 5N|pg|| mb|p|nt|cascade: only 4NT|pg|| nt|stewball: wow|pg|| mb|4C|mb|p|mb|p|nt|reisig: pass?|pg|| nt|cascade: Schermer shouldnt being playing Chambers for this much|pg|| nt|rbeye2: new leader|pg|| nt|stewball: Simpson is looking to have his VUL head handed to him|pg|| mb|p|nt|cascade: so Chambers can bid some more|pg|| pc|sK|nt|stewball: are we missing something here?|pg|| nt|stewball: did Chris bid?|pg|| nt|vugraph9: Auction is correct|pg|| pc|s2|pc|sA|pc|s4|pg|| nt|stewball: well in that case..more wow|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d4|pc|d6|pc|d2|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d5|pc|dQ|pc|dT|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s6|pc|sQ|pc|s3|pg|| nt|stewball: switch Larsen and Kochs hands and see what 3@d would get|pg|| nt|vugraph9: Lost the play here, sorry|pg|| nt|Walddk3: Please welcome one of Netherlands finest players and analysts: Jan van Cleeff|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|o10|st||md|4SKQ7HQ742DJ983CA2,SJ962HAKDAKQT7C95,ST4HJ9D42CKQT8764,SA853HT8653D65CJ3|sv|b|nt|vugraph7: quick break...over now|pg|| mb|p|nt|Walddk2: 4 top losers in 4@S as Luis would have said|pg|| mb|1D|mb|1N|nt|lrargerich: I think 4@h has a chance|pg|| nt|reisig: 2 chances ...slim and none|pg|| mb|2S|an|transfer to clubs|mb|p|nt|reisig: The finals of this event (64 boards) will be played all today|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Interesting treatment. 2@S shows clubs|pg|| nt|reisig: There was a choice ..the 2 teams could choose to play 1/2 today and 1/2 tomorrow|pg|| nt|Walddk2: I could understand after 1NT opening and overcall, but not on this auction|pg|| nt|lrargerich: Chances of missunderstanding now|pg|| nt|Walddk2: or mrs|pg|| nt|reisig: They might play ..when they overcall 1NT -- we treat it as if we opened 1NT|pg|| mb|3C|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|lrargerich: Does that make any sense Richie?|pg|| nt|reisig: YES|pg|| pc|hK|nt|lrargerich: 1@h-1NT-2@c Stayman ? :-)|pg|| nt|Walddk2: yes|pg|| nt|reisig: yup|pg|| pc|h9|pc|hT|pc|h4|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d2|pc|d5|pc|d8|pg|| nt|reisig: usually over a minor opening|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d4|pc|d6|pc|d3|pg|| nt|reisig: not over 1@h/@s|pg|| nt|reisig: We couldn't ask for a closer match|pg|| nt|lebasi: 1 imp for Bennett team n 11-11!|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s4|pc|sA|pc|s7|pg|| pc|s3|pc|sK|pc|s6|nt|lebasi: oh no|pg|| pc|sT|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c5|pc|cK|pc|c3|pg|| nt|lebasi: 6 for other side|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|c10|st||md|4SKQ7HQ742DJ983CA2,SJ962HAKDAKQT7C95,ST4HJ9D42CKQT8764,SA853HT8653D65CJ3|sv|b|nt|Walddk3: Hi Jan|pg|| nt|stewball: hi jan|pg|| nt|impmagb: hi roland|pg|| nt|impmagb: and all others|pg|| nt|vugraph9: We reached 10 in about 45 minutes, in contrast to last night 2 hours|pg|| mb|p|mb|1D!|mb|1N|nt|impmagb: last night fire works i read|pg|| mb|2C|mb|d!|an|Stayman|nt|stewball: i still think there must have been something in the last auction...|pg|| nt|stewball: i continue to be assured it was corrct however|pg|| nt|impmagb: comp auction |pg|| nt|impmagb: here|pg|| mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|impmagb: over 3@C EW still can make 3@S|pg|| nt|impmagb: sold out in two|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d5|pc|dJ|pc|dA|pg|| pc|dT|pc|d2|pc|d6|pc|d3|pg|| nt|stewball: i think i would have tried again with Ames' hand|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|sT|pc|sA|pc|d8|pg|| nt|stewball: in fact i know i would:)|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h2|pc|hA|pc|h9|pg|| nt|reisig: easy to play in 1N:))|pg|| pc|dK|pc|s4|pc|s5|pc|d9|pg|| nt|dinos1: not 2 :)|pg|| nt|impmagb: funny play|pg|| pc|s3|pc|sQ|pc|s2|pc|c4|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s6|pc|c6|pc|s8|pg|| nt|impmagb: we almost came to the point that south could ruff his own suit|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|o11|st||md|1SA653HQ65DT32CJ73,SQT8HT7DKQ9864C92,SK2HJ9843DJCKQT85,SJ974HAK2DA75CA64|sv|o|nt|reisig: a commanding lead?|pg|| mb|p|nt|Walddk2: I can count 9 top tricks in 3NT|pg|| mb|p|nt|Walddk2: Hope Beery realises that he's in NT this time|pg|| mb|p|nt|Walddk2: You all know what happened last night, no?|pg|| mb|1N|mb|p|nt|Walddk2: Well, let me tell you|pg|| nt|reisig: Beery tried to trump something ...in NT?|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Was the penultimate hand of the match|pg|| mb|2C|nt|Walddk2: EW missed a lay down 6@D and stopped in 3NT|pg|| nt|Walddk2: 10 top tricks|pg|| mb|d|mb|2S|nt|Walddk2: Eventually he went 3 down, because ........|pg|| nt|Walddk2: at sompe point he made a false claim: "Trumping my losers"|pg|| mb|p|nt|Walddk2: He was obviously focused on the diamond slam they missed and did not realise that he played NT|pg|| mb|2N|nt|Walddk2: 6@D was bid at the other table so it didn't matter alot. Lost 14 IMPs instead of 11|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|reisig: Bennett increases their lead|pg|| pc|c3|nt|lebasi: it happen:-(|pg|| nt|Walddk2: I think 2NT is a poor call, excuse me|pg|| nt|lrargerich: Inviting after stayman is a huge mistake in my opinion|pg|| nt|Walddk2: This hand is worth more than an invitational bids|pg|| nt|reisig: Roland - stop that! You make me agree with you and I hate doing that|pg|| nt|Walddk2: lol|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cQ|pc|c4|pg|| nt|lrargerich: How can pd know that his @dA is worth 6 tricks ?|pg|| pc|c8|pc|c6|nt|reisig: Great question - Luis:)|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|c9|pg|| pc|c7|nt|Walddk2: Maybe you must bid Stayman in their methods with a hand like that, but that does not explain the subsequent 2NT|pg|| pc|h7|pc|cK|pc|cA|pg|| pc|d5|nt|lrargerich: If you don't have a wait to invite showing diamonds just bid 3NT|pg|| pc|d2|pc|dK|pc|dJ|pg|| nt|lrargerich: Some 15 counters produce 10 tricks and some 17 counters only 8 :-)|pg|| pc|d4|pc|h3|pc|dA|pc|d3|pg|| nt|lebasi: true|pg|| pc|d7|pc|dT|pc|dQ|pc|h4|pg|| nt|reisig: played @ds wrong too|pg|| pc|d9|pc|h8|pc|s4|pc|s5|pg|| pc|d8|nt|lrargerich: Yes, had to play @dA first|pg|| pc|h9|pc|s7|pc|s3|pg|| pc|d6|pc|hJ|nt|lrargerich: To pick diamonds 4-0|pg|| pc|s9|mc|9|pg|| qx|c11|st||md|1SA653HQ65DT32CJ73,SQT8HT7DKQ9864C92,SK2HJ9843DJCKQT85,SJ974HAK2DA75CA64|sv|o|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|nt|impmagb: 3N now?|pg|| mb|2N|an|Ogust|nt|stewball: an old fashioned weak 2@d bid,,,may see more of these in the seniors game than elsewhere:)|pg|| mb|p|mb|3D|mb|p|mb|3N|nt|dinos1: wd you bid 2@s?|pg|| nt|reisig: no|pg|| nt|cascade: 1@d is limited so this is about as good as he can be|pg|| nt|dinos1: 2@d - 5+@d?|pg|| nt|reisig: 2@h now|pg|| nt|pef: the results on 22 through 26 are -500 +100 +50 -640 and +90|pg|| mb|p|nt|reisig: 3@h -- I mean|pg|| nt|dinos1: i see 1@d was alerted|pg|| mb|p|nt|cascade: Koch bids spades without spades instead|pg|| mb|p|nt|stewball: one pair last night was playing Acol 2 bids|pg|| pc|s5|nt|impmagb: no kidding|pg|| pc|sT|nt|impmagb: we are in a new millennium|pg|| pc|sK|nt|cascade: this is one way to 5@d|pg|| pc|s7|pg|| nt|impmagb: ...|pg|| pc|cQ|nt|dinos1: coz he knows about @h stiff in pd's hand|pg|| pc|c4|nt|dinos1: with 4@s he wd X first|pg|| pc|c3|nt|dinos1: or bid 1@s acc their agreement|pg|| pc|c2|pg|| nt|stewball: this is all about overtricks|pg|| pc|cT|pc|c6|pc|cJ|pc|c9|pg|| pc|c7|pc|s8|pc|cK|pc|cA|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d2|pc|d4|pc|dJ|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|o12|st||md|2SJ97HA964DT74CA42,SA53HKT75DK5C8765,SK862H82DAJ9CQJT3,SQT4HQJ3DQ8632CK9|sv|n|nt|Walddk2: I am told that Beery-Egan looked very tired this morning|pg|| nt|lrargerich: Bidding 2@c and then 2NT is not a matter of stamina|pg|| nt|Walddk2: One can understand that. It's a long event and as I said: they have been playing 4-handed from the word go|pg|| nt|reisig: THEY looked tired? What about us?|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pg|| qx|c12|st||md|2SJ97HA964DT74CA42,SA53HKT75DK5C8765,SK862H82DAJ9CQJT3,SQT4HQJ3DQ8632CK9|sv|n|nt|impmagb: a lot of players in our country do have a weak two in @D in their 2@C opening|pg|| mb|p|mb|1D!|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1N|an|could have 4 !S|nt|cascade: i am told that the other room played 6@d -1|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|stewball: 14 total imps in 11 boards...contrast with 103 in 16 borads last night..|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d4|pc|dK|nt|cascade: so that is 10 more IMPs for Ames|pg|| nt|cascade: the previous four boards were tied I think|pg|| pc|dA|pg|| nt|impmagb: what was the final result last night?|pg|| pc|cQ|nt|cascade: so 136-124 is my unofficial score|pg|| pc|cK|pc|cA|nt|impmagb: with 16 brds to go it was even|pg|| pc|c7|pg|| nt|impmagb: i saw|pg|| pc|s7|pc|sA|nt|cascade: no that is incorrect|pg|| pc|s2|nt|cascade: the results I had for the previous board were not in fact correct|pg|| pc|s4|pg|| pc|d5|pc|dJ|pc|d2|pc|d7|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|c9|pc|c2|pc|c5|pg|| nt|stewball: actually the comparisons are only through 5 boards its true|pg|| pc|cT|pc|h3|pc|c4|pc|c6|pg|| pc|h8|pc|hQ|pc|hA|pc|h5|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s5|pc|sK|pc|sQ|pg|| nt|impmagb: do NS play a strong club system?|pg|| nt|stewball: the open room is considerably behind|pg|| mc|7|nt|cascade: 2nd iteration 144-125 is the correct score before this board|pg|| pg|| qx|o13|st||md|3SKT9HQDQ862CK8732,SQJ874HK953DK7CAQ,S63HA82DJ943CJ964,SA52HJT764DAT5CT5|sv|b|nt|reisig: and some beginnings too|pg|| nt|Walddk2: or that you play in NT rather than diamonds?|pg|| nt|lrargerich: Yes, a good example|pg|| nt|reisig: Roland - that is partner's fault|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|reisig: When playing NT -- always put the opps suit where the trumps go|pg|| mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2C|an|drury/3 card support|nt|lrargerich: And say "good luck in 3NT pd!!"|pg|| mb|p|mb|2H|nt|Walddk2: Kx AJ10xxx Q10xx J Your partner opens 1@D, you 1@H (1@S overcall). 3@D by partner. You bid 3NT now??|pg|| mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|lrargerich: No|pg|| pc|d3|nt|reisig: no|pg|| nt|Walddk2: That was what happened|pg|| nt|lebasi: really not|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Opener had Ax xx AKxxxx Axx|pg|| pc|dA|nt|Walddk2: So you have 10 top tricks in 3NT, but alas ......|pg|| pc|d6|pc|d7|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pc|hK|nt|reisig: Keep talking ..this hand is flat|pg|| pc|h2|pg|| pc|h3|pc|hA|pc|h4|pc|d2|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Egan would also have bid 3@D with Axx x AKxxxx Axx and now you missed a grand|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d5|pc|dQ|pc|dK|pg|| pc|h9|pc|h8|pc|h6|pc|c7|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s3|pc|sA|pc|s9|pg|| pc|s2|pc|sT|pc|sQ|pc|s6|pg|| pc|s8|pc|c4|mc|11|pg|| qx|c13|st||md|3SKT9HQDQ862CK8732,SQJ874HK953DK7CAQ,S63HA82DJ943CJ964,SA52HJT764DAT5CT5|sv|b|nt|cascade: Ames leads|pg|| nt|cascade: sorry for the technical problems with the scores|pg|| nt|impmagb: in view of the 1@D opening on 12|pg|| nt|stewball: ames /koch are playing forcing club|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|cascade: EW have +620 in the other room on this board 4@s=|pg|| nt|impmagb: thought so|pg|| mb|p|mb|1S|nt|impmagb: 4@H?|pg|| mb|p|mb|2C|an|drury|nt|cascade: that looks like a normal result|pg|| mb|p|nt|cascade: 2@d must be a forcing Stayman here|pg|| mb|4S|nt|impmagb: drury 2@C|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|dinos1: 2@d - Stayman?|pg|| mb|p|nt|dinos1: looks like|pg|| nt|impmagb: larsen had enough for game and just bid it|pg|| pc|s6|nt|stewball: larsen didnt want to give the opps info,,,the price is an inferior contract|pg|| nt|impmagb: 2@C showing 3crd spade and inv |pg|| pc|sA|pc|s9|nt|dinos1: 11 now|pg|| pc|s4|pg|| pc|s2|pc|sK|pc|s8|pc|s3|pg|| nt|cascade: yes so that will narrow the gap to 8 IMPs|pg|| pc|sT|pc|sQ|pc|c4|pc|s5|pg|| pc|d7|pc|d4|pc|dA|pc|d2|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pc|hK|pc|h2|pg|| pc|h9|nt|impmagb: 11 tricks|pg|| pc|h8|pc|h4|pc|c3|pg|| pc|h5|pc|hA|pc|h6|mc|11|pg|| qx|o14|st||md|4SAHAT964DQ5CQJT75,SKQ5HQJDAKJ862CA6,ST763H732DT43CK84,SJ9842HK85D97C932|sv|o|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|d|mb|p|nt|lebasi: another board with 10 tricks in 4@s|pg|| mb|1S|mb|2C|mb|3C|mb|3H|nt|lrargerich: May have a little problem with a club lead?|pg|| mb|3S|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|lrargerich: May lose 1 club, 1 heart and two spades |pg|| pc|cQ|nt|reisig: will this be easy?|pg|| nt|lrargerich: They force dummy to ruff a club and you can't pick spades?|pg|| nt|reisig: On the auction - @s likely 4-1|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c8|nt|lrargerich: Of course you can play diamonds to pitch a club but that's double dummysh|pg|| pc|c2|pg|| nt|lebasi: the same lead (J@c) in closed room|pg|| nt|reisig: Can make ...but must work for it|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h2|pc|h5|nt|lrargerich: The biggest problem is not having an entry to play spades from dummy|pg|| nt|lrargerich: From declarer's hand I meant|pg|| nt|lebasi: from hand, u mean|pg|| nt|reisig: needs to ruff a @d to reduce trumps|pg|| nt|lrargerich: I bet one down|pg|| pc|h6|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s6|pc|s2|pc|sA|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Bennett is seeded 4, Ames 23 so it's some surprise that Ames had made it all the way to the final|pg|| pc|hA|pc|hJ|pc|h3|pc|h8|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|c6|pc|c4|pc|c3|pg|| pc|c5|pc|s5|pc|cK|pc|c9|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s3|pc|s4|pc|c7|pg|| nt|lrargerich: And one down it was|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d3|nt|lebasi: you win Luis|pg|| pc|d7|pc|d5|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d4|pc|d9|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|dT|nt|reisig: forgot to ruff in hand|pg|| nt|lebasi: yah|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|c14|st||md|4SAHAT964DQ5CQJT75,SKQ5HQJDAKJ862CA6,ST763H732DT43CK84,SJ9842HK85D97C932|sv|o|nt|cascade: EW have +420 in the other room|pg|| mb|p|nt|cascade: 4@h E =|pg|| mb|1H|nt|cascade: Ames 144 Rosenkranz 136|pg|| mb|d|mb|p|nt|dinos1: 1@d - majors?|pg|| mb|1S|mb|2C|mb|2D|nt|dinos1: only 1@h?|pg|| mb|2H|mb|2S|nt|cascade: 3@d is strange news|pg|| nt|dinos1: stopper for 3n I think|pg|| nt|cascade: ok but he is very short on values|pg|| mb|3H|nt|cascade: he must expect more for 3@c|pg|| mb|4S|nt|dinos1: strong club bidder JUMPED in @c's|pg|| mb|p|nt|impmagb: 4@S is on|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|dinos1: no - 5@c by N|pg|| nt|cascade: I think Ames has bid 5@c|pg|| nt|stewball: now if Chris can contain himself....|pg|| nt|stewball: no|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|c6|nt|cascade: -100 will still gain Ames 8 IMPs|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c2|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h8|pc|hA|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|h4|pc|hQ|pc|h3|nt|impmagb: club cont was better|pg|| pc|h5|pg|| nt|impmagb: with open crds|pg|| nt|stewball: this isnt best....|pg|| nt|impmagb: north probably was playing his pd for the @HK|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s3|pc|s2|pc|sA|pg|| nt|stewball: surprising with 4 trumps Ames wouldnt want to continue clubs regardless|pg|| pc|c5|pc|cA|pc|c8|pc|c3|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s6|pc|s4|pc|c7|pg|| nt|stewball: nothing left here,,,,|pg|| pc|dA|nt|impmagb: en route to ten tricks|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d7|pc|d5|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d3|pc|d9|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|dT|pc|c9|pc|h6|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s7|pc|s8|pc|cT|pg|| pc|sJ|nt|stewball: a potential pickup for Simpson.although the hand CAN be made on club club regardless|pg|| nt|impmagb: even wih a club return, 4@S was on though|pg|| nt|impmagb: a littlebit more to the play|pg|| nt|vugraph9: br break|pg|| nt|impmagb: we ware waiting for the open room to fetch up|pg|| nt|impmagb: remember that in the closed room brd 6 was a pass|pg|| nt|impmagb: and had been played in the open room|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|o15|st||md|1SKJT984HKT98DJC43,SA652H643DK752CJ9,S7HQ5DAT43CKQT852,SQ3HAJ72DQ986CA76|sv|n|nt|reisig: kinda basic play|pg|| nt|lrargerich: Was a difficult hand to play I wouldn't blame declarer|pg|| nt|lrargerich: His teammates defended very badly in the closed room|pg|| nt|Walddk2: EW have golfed every morning and played bridge all day, for several days. So no wonder they are tired. They are not exactly juniors any more|pg|| mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|reisig: This will make 9 or 10 tricks|pg|| nt|reisig: for 6 or 7 IMPs|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|cK|pc|cA|pc|c3|pg|| nt|Walddk2: South didn't open at the other table, and yet they reached 3NT|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Precision didn't help them. 2@C 2@D ; 3@C 3@S ; 3NT|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Not economical at all|pg|| nt|lebasi: 2C opener is the bane of big club systems|pg|| pc|c7|pc|c4|pc|c9|pc|cT|pg|| pc|s7|pc|s3|pc|s4|pc|s2|pg|| nt|reisig: Didn't open 2@s because 4 cards in @h?|pg|| nt|lrargerich: Probably, I agree with that approach|pg|| nt|lrargerich: Specailly with 4 GOOD cards in hearts|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|hA|pc|h9|pc|h6|pg|| nt|reisig: Same guy that teaches about splinters with singleton aces?|pg|| pc|d6|pc|dJ|pc|dK|pc|dA|pg|| nt|lrargerich: After 2@c-2@d;3@c south should pass|pg|| pc|d3|pc|dQ|pc|sT|nt|lebasi: yes, same guys|pg|| pc|d2|pg|| pc|sK|pc|sA|pc|c2|pc|sQ|pg|| nt|lebasi: i don't open too...|pg|| pc|d5|pc|dT|pc|d8|pc|h8|pg|| nt|reisig: What ever happened to - bid your hand?|pg|| nt|lebasi: maybe i'm a chicken but really i don't like|pg|| pc|h5|mc|9|pg|| qx|c15|st||md|1SKJT984HKT98DJC43,SA652H643DK752CJ9,S7HQ5DAT43CKQT852,SQ3HAJ72DQ986CA76|sv|n|nt|cascade: East made a false claim on 31 in the other room - "trumping my losers"|pg|| nt|cascade: trouble was he was in 3NT|pg|| nt|impmagb: here we go|pg|| nt|vugraph9: players are back (this is Susan (sdoty), btw -- I've taken over for Rick)|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|cascade: 3nt E -3|pg|| nt|stewball: hi susan:)|pg|| nt|impmagb: hi suzy|pg|| nt|impmagb: the question is: is 4@S on?|pg|| nt|vugraph9: Koch was asking if I can see what's happened in the other room --- I told him yes, that's why the computer is never left unattended (so they can't peek)|pg|| mb|2C|nt|cascade: so a very poor result for Ames|pg|| mb|p|nt|stewball: another example of the VERY wide range in this pair's 2@c openings|pg|| nt|vugraph9: Simpson leans over and says "that's okay, that's why I called my friend logged into bridge base" (jokingly of course)|pg|| mb|2D|mb|p|nt|cascade: Score is: Ames 152 - Rosenkranz 136 (unofficial)|pg|| mb|3C|nt|cascade: So 11 IMPs for Rosenkranz here if they get to 3NT and more if they find 6@d|pg|| nt|dinos1: in 3N having cold 6@d?|pg|| nt|vugraph9: to which larsen contributes "Don't worry, he hasn't got any friends" ;P|pg|| mb|p|nt|cascade: yes 14 IMPs for 6@d|pg|| mb|3S|nt|cascade: and they appear to be on their way|pg|| mb|p|nt|impmagb: will south ever bid spades?|pg|| nt|impmagb: yes at the three level|pg|| nt|stewball: Ames is regretting the whole thing no doubt....|pg|| nt|vugraph9: there are some alerts -- i'll try to see what they're writing at the end of the auction|pg|| mb|3N|nt|dinos1: seems so|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|impmagb: east will lead a @D|pg|| nt|impmagb: for sure|pg|| nt|impmagb: he knows south has hearts|pg|| nt|impmagb: due to the stayman like 2@D|pg|| nt|vugraph9: 2@C : 2@S would be non-forcing; 2@C : 3@S would have been forcing|pg|| pc|d6|nt|poohbear: if they bid 6d they were going to win 11 anyway to bring the match within 5 . now it would be within 2|pg|| pc|dJ|nt|dinos1: 5@c - 1 or 4|pg|| pc|dK|pc|dA|pg|| nt|impmagb: last hope (udner kq@D) vanished for declarer|pg|| pc|s7|nt|cascade: so Ames 152 Rosenkranz 150 |pg|| pc|s3|nt|cascade: assuming no more accidents|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|sA|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d3|nt|stewball: another example of why many big clubbers would start Ames' hand with 1@d|pg|| pc|d8|pc|h8|pg|| nt|stewball: or perhaps 3@cs:)|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h9|pc|h6|pc|h5|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c9|pc|cT|pc|c6|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|cA|pc|c4|pc|cJ|pg|| nt|stewball: this is painful to watch....|pg|| nt|stewball: both sides flailing about:)|pg|| pc|hA|pc|hT|pc|h4|pc|hQ|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|s4|pc|d5|pc|d4|pg|| pc|d9|nt|stewball: now if Chris had returned a higher @D....|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|o16|st||md|2SKQ6HAKJ2DQ8CKJ65,SJ94H74DAK9764C43,S8HQ86DJTCAQT9872,SAT7532HT953D532C|sv|e|nt|Walddk2: This is the last board of the first quarter. Thanks a lot to Diane Beyer (vugraph7), our very busy operator in Orlando. Great job as usual Diane!|pg|| nt|reisig: what time is next 1/4?|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Also thanks to my fellow commentators: Isabel Leitão, Richie Reisig and Luis Argerich|pg|| mb|p|mb|3C|mb|p|nt|Walddk2: Play will resume about 15 minutes after we finish here|pg|| nt|lebasi: wc, my pleasure Roland:-))|pg|| mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|Walddk2: Then a longish break after segment 2, can't tell how long since the players often decide at the last minute|pg|| nt|reisig: 3 down|pg|| pc|dA|pc|dT|nt|lrargerich: I like the 3NT bid, bad luck|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Is 4@H where you want to be?|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d8|pg|| nt|lrargerich: Actually I like to be in 3NT|pg|| nt|lebasi: other room opened 2@d weak|pg|| pc|dK|pc|dJ|nt|reisig: 4@h is down less|pg|| pc|d2|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|d9|pc|c2|pc|d3|pc|s6|pg|| pc|d7|nt|lrargerich: If you switch the EW hands you make 3NT on a low spade lead|pg|| pc|h6|pc|h3|pc|c6|pg|| pc|d6|pc|h8|nt|reisig: I would bid 3NT also|pg|| nt|lebasi: bye all:-))|pg|| nt|Walddk2: FInally thanks to the ACBL for their support. Rick Beye, the chief tournament director, has been instrumental in organising these broadcasts|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Thx all for coming, see you in about 15 minutes|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Bye for now|pg|| nt|lrargerich: bye see you in 15 minutes|pg|| mc|6|pg|| qx|c16|st||md|2SKQ6HAKJ2DQ8CKJ65,SJ94H74DAK9764C43,S8HQ86DJTCAQT9872,SAT7532HT953D532C|sv|e|mb|2D|nt|cascade: 2@d +2 was the result on 32 I am told|pg|| nt|impmagb: would not have helped|pg|| mb|p|nt|vugraph7: yes|pg|| nt|impmagb: 98 @D...|pg|| mb|3D|nt|cascade: before this gets exciting we need to thank those responsible for getting this vugraph up|pg|| nt|impmagb: another weak tow|pg|| nt|stewball: would have speeded things up|pg|| mb|d|mb|p|mb|4C|nt|poohbear: so Koch Ames need to go plus to win|pg|| nt|stewball: oh right...|pg|| mb|p|nt|cascade: So thanks to ACBL and in particular the Cheif director Rick Beye|pg|| nt|stewball: ok the last of this set......|pg|| nt|impmagb: 4@H some play|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|impmagb: diff to find the @C ruffs|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d8|nt|cascade: thx also of course to Fred Gitelman and the BBO team|pg|| nt|poohbear: looks like they will|pg|| nt|jbgood: misclick|pg|| pc|dK|nt|jbgood: no?|pg|| nt|cascade: and to our commentators and operator |pg|| pc|dJ|pg|| pc|dA|pc|dT|pc|d3|pc|dQ|pg|| nt|stewball: Ames takes the low road again,,,,,4@c is quite a position|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s8|pc|sA|pc|s6|pg|| nt|stewball: a triumph for the low road|pg|| nt|stewball: we'll see you all back here 15 minutes after play finishes in the open room|pg|| nt|impmagb: mzzl ciao to you all|pg|| nt|stewball: i'm guessing 30-40 minutes|pg|| nt|impmagb: wont be back, diner time here in the Rhine Delta zone|pg|| nt|stewball: 4@h was nice on the last but not easy to find|pg|| nt|impmagb: suppose south plays|pg|| nt|impmagb: and west leads his high diamonds|pg|| nt|impmagb: then east could give s/p|pg|| nt|stewball: true,,,,|pg|| nt|stewball: i dont see a practical way to get there regardless,,perhaps 4@d from ames,4@h pass?|pg|| nt|stewball: see y'all soon...|pg|| mc|10|nt|poohbear: trump lead is almost always mandatory in these non preferenced auctions|pg|| pg||