vg|2004 Senior KO team,2nd Quarter Final,I,17,32,Bennett,38,Ames,21|
rs|3NE+3,3NE+3,3SW+1,4SW=,3HW+1,3HE+1,3NS-1,3CN+1,4SE+2,4SW+2,1NN+2,5CN-1,1NN+1,1NN+1,3NW-1,4HW=,6SE=,6SE=,3NN+1,6CS=,2HW+1,3CN-3,4SE+1,5DW-1,3NE+2,4HE+1,3CN+1,3CN+1,3NE+2,3NE+2,PASS,1HN=|
pn|Dickman,Egan,Bennett,Beery,Koch,Larsen,Ames,Simpson|pg||
qx|o17|st||md|3SAQT852HT3D43CJT4,S3HAJ5DKQ865CK983,S96H98762DJ2CQ762,SKJ74HKQ4DAT97CA5|sv|o|mb|p|nt|Walddk2: Good afternoon everyone ... or morning if you prefer|pg||
mb|1D|nt|Walddk2: Welcome back to Orlando in Florida|pg||
mb|1S|nt|Walddk2: This is the 2nd quarter of the seniors' final|pg||
mb|2S|nt|Walddk2: Good afternoon to David Greenwood from Ireland|pg||
mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s8|nt|jtr: hello everybody|pg||
pc|s3|pc|s9|pc|sJ|pg||
pc|d7|pc|d4|pc|dK|pc|d2|pg||
pc|d5|nt|jtr: didn't come close to bidding the slam|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|dA|pc|d3|pg||
pc|dT|pc|h3|pc|d6|pc|h2|pg||
pc|d9|pc|hT|pc|dQ|pc|h6|pg||
pc|d8|pc|s6|pc|s4|nt|jtr: did 2@s show a @d raise?|pg||
pc|s2|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h7|pc|h4|pc|s5|pg||
pc|h5|pc|h8|pc|hQ|pc|sT|pg||
pc|hK|pc|sQ|pc|hJ|pc|h9|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Welcome to Alfredo Conterno, our Peruvian expert|pg||
pc|s7|pc|sA|pc|c3|pc|c2|pg||
nt|aconterno: Hi Roland thxs|pg||
nt|reisig: Hi Alfredo:)|pg||
nt|jtr: Hola Alfredo|pg||
nt|aconterno: Hiya Richie :-)|pg||
nt|Walddk2: And welcome back to Richie Reisig|pg||
nt|reisig: hi hi:)|pg||
mc|12|pg||
qx|o18|st||md|4SJ5HK8DAT97CK8654,SAT742HAT7DK5CAQT,SK96H95432DQJ43C7,SQ83HQJ6D862CJ932|sv|n|nt|Walddk2: Excellent slam missed|pg||
nt|reisig: Hola David:)|pg||
mb|p|nt|jtr: caed mille failte Richie:-)|pg||
mb|p|nt|aconterno: Hi David|pg||
mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2S|nt|Walddk2: It's a horrible 4@S, but an easy make with all cards in view|pg||
mb|p|nt|reisig: I can see them:))|pg||
mb|2N|an|asking for singleton|nt|jtr: maybe 3NT?|pg||
nt|aconterno: nice layuot of cards |pg||
nt|reisig: 3N is terrible ..but makes|pg||
nt|Walddk2: 2NT could be a relay, as Richie and I play it|pg||
mb|p|nt|aconterno: can pass 2nt?|pg||
mb|3S|nt|jtr: noooo|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|reisig: 3@s = the worst!|pg||
pc|c7|pc|c2|pc|cK|pc|cA|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Richie was actually the one who told me about this relay ... I think a 2 or 3 of years ago|pg||
pc|sA|nt|reisig: Can the King be right?|pg||
pc|s6|pc|s3|nt|Walddk2: Great stuff!|pg||
pc|s5|pg||
pc|s2|pc|sK|pc|s8|pc|sJ|pg||
nt|reisig: Roland ...its a secret:))|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|d2|nt|jtr: no it can't Richie|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d5|pg||
pc|c8|pc|cQ|pc|s9|pc|c3|pg||
nt|Walddk2: And even better after   1x   1MA  ;  2MA|pg||
nt|Walddk2: If anyone is interested in that relay with responses they are welcome to e-mail me|pg||
nt|Walddk2: e-mail pls, no private messages|pg||
mc|10|pg||
qx|o19|st||md|1SQ83H32D876CKQT92,SJT4HKQJ85DKJ92C5,SK6HT9DAQT43CAJ83,SA9752HA764D5C764|sv|e|nt|lrargerich: Hi all|pg||
nt|aconterno: Hola Luis|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Welcome back to Luis Argerich from Argentina|pg||
nt|reisig: Duck!!  Luis is back :)))|pg||
nt|jtr: Hi Luis|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|1D|nt|jtr: good 4@h on minimal values|pg||
mb|2D|nt|reisig: anyone open 1@h?|pg||
nt|lrargerich: I'd have opened 1@h as you all know|pg||
nt|jtr: conservative pass by Egan|pg||
nt|aconterno: me too 1@h|pg||
nt|jtr: lucky i am not a  chauvanist:-)|pg||
mb|p|mb|3H|nt|reisig: If I pass ..check my pulse please|pg||
nt|lrargerich: Maybe we all pass if our pd is going to bid 2@h on that collection|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|lrargerich: 3@h now is ultra-conservative|pg||
mb|p|nt|reisig: :)))|pg||
nt|reisig: Feed her|pg||
nt|aconterno: And Beerry have no choice to pass|pg||
nt|lrargerich: I can't imagine a hand that bids 2@d over 1@d vul and won't win 4@h|pg||
pc|hT|pc|h4|pc|h2|nt|jtr: well not everyone would bid 2@d on that|pg||
pc|hK|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|sK|pc|sA|pc|s3|pg||
nt|jtr: so more of a case for 4@h|pg||
nt|reisig: I guess we'd be in 4@h faster ..after a 1@h opening|pg||
pc|h6|pc|h3|pc|hQ|pc|h9|pg||
pc|sT|pc|s6|pc|s2|pc|sQ|pg||
pc|c2|pc|c5|pc|cJ|pc|c4|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c6|pc|c9|pc|h5|pg||
pc|s4|nt|lrargerich: Now look at this East had a very minimum 2@d bid and yet 4@h makes|pg||
nt|reisig: Is there a claim in sight?|pg||
nt|lrargerich: with a normal 2@d bid your 3@h contract is embarrasing|pg||
mc|10|pg||
qx|o20|st||md|2SA75H87DAJ653CT76,SQ8632HJ642DK8CA5,SKHAKTDT42CQJ9842,SJT94HQ953DQ97CK3|sv|b|mb|p|mb|1C|mb|2C|nt|reisig: holy S...!!!|pg||
mb|2D|nt|lrargerich: Go figure if your pd didn't bid game in the last one...|pg||
mb|2S|nt|lrargerich: then you must bid with less and less and less|pg||
mb|3C|mb|p|nt|lrargerich: I'm a big friend of light overcalls but this one is sick|pg||
nt|reisig: Looks like ..if they open a minor ..Pass denies all hands with 4-4 Majors:)|pg||
mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s2|nt|lrargerich: Boy they are lucky we didn't see any 1400 so far...|pg||
nt|jtr: and the 2@s bid?|pg||
pc|sK|pc|sJ|pc|s5|pg||
nt|Walddk2: If East really had a 2@C overcall, 2@S was a bit timid (I am always very diplomatic)|pg||
pc|c2|pc|c3|pc|cT|pc|cA|pg||
pc|s3|nt|lrargerich: After the 3@h bid I'm not sure if 2@s was timid|pg||
pc|d2|pc|s9|pc|sA|pg||
pc|c6|pc|c5|pc|cQ|pc|cK|pg||
pc|sT|pc|s7|pc|s6|nt|aconterno: they already have missed a slam and 2 games|pg||
pc|d4|pg||
nt|jtr: declarer played for one off|pg||
nt|Walddk2: It's a shame that the closed room isn't functioning at the moment. Our own Chris Larsen (clarsen) is on the Bennett team|pg||
nt|reisig: now a @d?|pg||
pc|s4|pc|d3|pc|s8|pc|hT|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|c4|mc|8|pg||
qx|o21|st||md|3SJ64HQ98532DT75C9,SA98752HDK9432C63,SQTHK74DJCKQJ8742,SK3HAJT6DAQ86CAT5|sv|n|nt|Walddk2: How would you like to be in 7@D now?|pg||
nt|lrargerich: A lot but they won't get there|pg||
mb|1C|nt|jtr: never easy to bid a Grand Slam after opponents open|pg||
mb|1N|mb|p|nt|reisig: probably get all the way to 4@s|pg||
mb|4H|an|texas transfer|nt|jtr: seems so|pg||
nt|lrargerich: Dreaded Texas|pg||
mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|aconterno: not even a slam though|pg||
pc|c9|nt|Walddk2: I agree David, but is it that difficult to make a slam try?|pg||
nt|lrargerich: NEver showed diamonds with a 6-5 hand ....|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Do you really MUST jump to game with that hand?|pg||
nt|jtr: no i hate just signing off in 4@s what is the rush?|pg||
pc|c3|pc|cJ|pc|cA|pg||
nt|reisig: we can always get to 4@s later|pg||
nt|lrargerich: Somebody find some diplomatic words for me please|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|c6|pc|h4|pg||
pc|sK|nt|jtr: bid @ss and @ds and partner will love their hand|pg||
pc|s4|pc|s2|pc|sT|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Egan was cautious|pg||
pc|s3|nt|reisig: Luis -- go to your room!|pg||
pc|s6|nt|Walddk2: Is that diplomatic?|pg||
pc|s7|pc|sQ|pg||
nt|jtr: just say it in Spanish Luis:-)|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c5|pc|h3|pc|s5|pg||
pc|sA|pc|c2|pc|h6|pc|sJ|pg||
nt|Walddk2: She overbid on 2 or 3 occasions in the first quarter. Making up for it now by underbidding|pg||
pc|dK|pc|dJ|pc|d6|mc|12|pg||
qx|o22|st||md|4SK4HJ762DA8643CA2,SJ3HAQ43DKQT97C86,SQ65H95DJCKQT7543,SAT9872HKT8D52CJ9|sv|e|nt|jtr: "underbidding" is very diplomatic Roland:-)|pg||
nt|reisig: Egan has been "uneven" at times|pg||
nt|aconterno: a lost of possible imps for Bennett team|pg||
nt|lrargerich: The thing I really don't like about EW is that I have the feeling that Beery is playing pupeteer now|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Bennett must have gained 40+ IMPs by now|pg||
nt|lrargerich: The 2@d overcall, 2@c overcall and 1NT with 18....|pg||
mb|p|nt|jtr: those clubs with North seem fairly familiar|pg||
mb|1D|mb|p|nt|lrargerich: Why not 2@s ?|pg||
mb|1N|mb|p|nt|reisig: Anyone can open 2@s|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|pc|sT|nt|Walddk2: Selling out to 1NT now, can make 2-3 spades|pg||
nt|Walddk2: easily|pg||
nt|reisig: 3N makes|pg||
pc|s4|pc|sJ|pc|sQ|pg||
pc|c3|pc|c9|nt|reisig: sometimes|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c6|pg||
nt|aconterno: Roland kibitz want to know who won Blue Ribbon|pg||
pc|c2|pc|c8|pc|cK|pc|cJ|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Closed room is up now. Assigned commentators please go there|pg||
nt|jtr: while we are on the point, why didnt bennett open 3@c?|pg||
mc|9|pg||
qx|o23|st||md|1SA92HJ5DT532CJ987,ST73HT63DAK86CQ32,SK865HA98DJ74CAKT,SQJ4HKQ742DQ9C654|sv|b|nt|Walddk2: I want to know too Alfredo. maybe Diane knows|pg||
nt|jtr: ah sorry East dealt|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|aconterno: yeah maybe our great operator can tell us|pg||
mb|1N|mb|p|nt|Walddk2: Sadek-Elahmady from Egypt won from Bobby Levin-Steve Weinstein|pg||
nt|vugraph7: will do shortly|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|pc|h2|nt|Walddk2: So Auken-von Arnim didn't go the distance, they were leaders for a long time|pg||
nt|lrargerich: 7 tricks now for declarer|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|h6|pc|h8|pg||
nt|jtr: 8 i think|pg||
nt|Walddk2: The Egyptians have done extremely well in North American tournaments. Twice runners-up in the Cavendish too|pg||
nt|jtr: can safely finesse @c|pg||
nt|aconterno: @c finesse now|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|cQ|pc|cA|pc|c6|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c4|pc|c7|pc|c2|pg||
pc|cT|pc|c5|pc|c8|pc|c3|pg||
pc|s5|pc|s4|nt|aconterno: @s 3-3|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s7|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Good morning to John Swanson from USA|pg||
pc|c9|pc|d6|nt|aconterno: Hi John|pg||
pc|h9|pc|h7|pg||
pc|s2|pc|s3|pc|sK|nt|aconterno: duck a @s for +2|pg||
pc|sJ|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Auken-von Arnim finished 8th|pg||
nt|jtr: why not|pg||
mc|8|pg||
qx|o24|st||md|2SJ42H974DQT9CAQ42,SA97HAKQDAKJ5C975,SKT6H82D7642CJT86,SQ853HJT653D83CK3|sv|o|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3C|mb|p|mb|3D|mb|p|nt|lrargerich: Romex stayman|pg||
mb|3S|mb|p|mb|3N|nt|jtr: and?|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|aconterno: not 4@h?|pg||
nt|jtr: the wrong contract...|pg||
nt|lrargerich: Or not .... 3@s is not normal playing Romex|pg||
nt|reisig: 3@s was Smolen|pg||
pc|cJ|nt|lrargerich: 3@s can't be Smolen, why West bids 3NT with AKQ of hearts and xxx in clubs ??|pg||
nt|reisig: very bad question!|pg||
pc|cK|pc|cA|pc|c5|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|c7|nt|reisig: tact - Luis|pg||
pc|c6|pc|c3|pg||
pc|c2|pc|c9|pc|cT|pc|s3|pg||
pc|c8|pc|h3|nt|lrargerich: Tact? I'm just launching the theory that East probably missbid|pg||
pc|c4|pc|d5|pg||
pc|d7|pc|d3|pc|dQ|pc|dA|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h2|nt|reisig: If so ..why not 4@s?|pg||
pc|h5|pc|h4|pg||
pc|hK|pc|h8|pc|h6|pc|h7|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|s6|pc|hT|pc|h9|pg||
pc|s7|pc|sK|pc|s5|pc|s2|pg||
mc|8|pg||
qx|o25|st||md|3SK3HJT5DJ982CK732,SQJT864HQ976DKQC9,SH8432D6543CQJ854,SA9752HAKDAT7CAT6|sv|e|mb|p|nt|reisig: 7@s here?|pg||
nt|aconterno: in the other romm they didnt find the grand nor the small, in the 6-5 @d-@s |pg||
mb|1S|mb|p|nt|jtr: well the last Grand was flat in game|pg||
nt|aconterno: 6-5 @s-@d|pg||
nt|reisig: any bets on 7@s?|pg||
nt|lrargerich: Yes, down 1|pg||
mb|3C|an|4 card support, 10-12 hcp|nt|jtr: well they say lead a trump against a Grand Slam:-)|pg||
nt|aconterno: i bet....they di ont bid 7|pg||
nt|reisig: Then it makes:)|pg||
nt|jtr: wonder what 3@c means|pg||
nt|lrargerich: If it is Bergen....|pg||
mb|p|nt|lrargerich: IT IS!!!|pg||
nt|jtr: ah reverse Bergen|pg||
nt|lrargerich: Roland, please diplomatic words for me again :-)|pg||
mb|3N|an|singleton?|nt|reisig: :)))|pg||
nt|jtr: makes more sense than the straight version i believe|pg||
mb|p|mb|4C|an|club singleton|mb|p|mb|4N|mb|p|mb|5D|nt|aconterno: any bets......i bet they dont go to the grand|pg||
nt|jtr: cant now surely|pg||
nt|lrargerich: They won't missing 1 key card|pg||
mb|p|nt|reisig: True - Beery has no idea about SIX card support|pg||
nt|lrargerich: He will ask for the @sQ to play 6|pg||
mb|6S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c3|pc|c9|pc|cJ|pc|cA|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s3|pc|s4|pc|c4|pg||
nt|reisig: faster play now|pg||
nt|jtr: odd lead when dummy has a singleton @c|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Here are some diplomatic words for you Luis: cautious, timid, slight underbid, slight overbid, apprehensive, reluctant, deliberate, thoughtful|pg||
mc|12|pg||
qx|c25|st||md|3SK3HJT5DJ982CK732,SQJT864HQ976DKQC9,SH8432D6543CQJ854,SA9752HAKDAT7CAT6|sv|e|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|3N|an|undisclosed splinter|mb|p|mb|6S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|lebasi: an easy action:-)|pg||
nt|lebasi: and fast...|pg||
pc|hT|nt|kareno: Play will be fast too|pg||
pc|h6|pc|h4|pc|hA|pg||
pc|sA|nt|kareno: 52 percent grand slam :)|pg||
mc|12|pg||
qx|o26|st||md|4SA7632HAK94DCAJT7,SK95HJT765DK84C65,S84H2DAJT53CKQ843,SQJTHQ83DQ9762C92|sv|b|nt|Walddk2: Keep them|pg||
nt|reisig: You'll be needing them :))|pg||
mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|nt|jtr: and another|pg||
mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2H|nt|Walddk2: bold, unlucky view|pg||
mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|nt|reisig: Now comes the @c suit!|pg||
mb|3C|mb|p|nt|lrargerich: Usually 5-4-1-3|pg||
mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|lrargerich: Let me pick a word....|pg||
nt|reisig: there went the @c suit|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Am I far off if I claim that they have been taking a few unlucky views in this set? :-)|pg||
nt|lrargerich: Is "horrible" a diplomatic word?|pg||
nt|lrargerich: Maybe not, let's say "cautious bidding"|pg||
nt|Walddk2: No it's not Luis|pg||
pc|d2|nt|reisig: He would have raised with 6 card support|pg||
pc|h4|pc|dK|pc|dA|pg||
pc|dJ|nt|jtr: prudence begets imprudence:-)|pg||
nt|lrargerich: So a 5-5-2-1 hand bid 1NT,2NT and 3NT will wonders never cease...|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|s2|pc|d4|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|sA|pc|s5|pc|s4|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c5|pc|c3|pc|c9|pg||
nt|lrargerich: What will they do with 4333 ? Bid the 4 card suit and then jump in the best 3rd?|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|c6|pc|c4|pc|c2|pg||
pc|cT|pc|d8|pc|cQ|nt|reisig: LUIS!|pg||
nt|jtr: maybe they are just keeping the game close for our benefit?|pg||
pc|sJ|pg||
pc|cK|pc|sT|pc|c7|pc|h5|pg||
pc|c8|nt|Walddk2: This is called irony Luis, and that isn't very diplomatic either|pg||
nt|Walddk2: But don't we like Luis as he is guys?|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Why change the man? :-)|pg||
pc|d6|pc|h9|pc|h6|pg||
pc|dT|pc|d7|pc|s3|pc|h7|pg||
pc|h2|nt|jtr: even if South is 5413 slam prospects are good|pg||
nt|lrargerich: Just using some humour, I really respect what the players do|pg||
mc|10|pg||
qx|c26|st||md|4SA7632HAK94DCAJT7,SK95HJT765DK84C65,S84H2DAJT53CKQ843,SQJTHQ83DQ9762C92|sv|b|nt|kareno: Not adequate at IMPs but at the state of the match, might be attempted.|pg||
mb|p|mb|1C|mb|p|nt|kareno: Looks like this is a Precision pair.|pg||
mb|2D|mb|p|mb|2S|nt|kareno: This is a grand slam (clubs) that will fetch.|pg||
mb|p|mb|3C!|an|singleton|mb|p|mb|4C|mb|p|nt|lebasi: singleton but indet|pg||
nt|kareno: Does 3@c really show a singleton?|pg||
nt|vugraph9: I'm 95% sure that's what he said|pg||
mb|4D|mb|p|mb|6C|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|lebasi: thet are bidding extremely fast|pg||
pc|hJ|nt|lebasi: *they|pg||
pc|h2|pc|h8|pc|hA|pg||
pc|hK|pc|h6|pc|s4|pc|h3|pg||
nt|vugraph9: koch looking at cc re leads|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s5|pc|s8|pc|sQ|pg||
pc|h4|pc|h5|pc|c3|pc|hQ|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d2|pc|s2|pc|d4|pg||
pc|d3|pc|d6|pc|c7|pc|d8|pg||
nt|kareno: I'd be more inclined to set up the south hand than to play on crossruff lines.. anyone else?|pg||
pc|s3|pc|s9|pc|c8|pc|sJ|pg||
nt|lebasi: yes, me too|pg||
pc|d5|pc|d7|pc|cT|pc|dK|pg||
pc|s6|pc|sK|pc|cK|pc|sT|pg||
nt|kareno: This way he has twelve, though, which is what he cares about.|pg||
pc|dT|pc|d9|pc|cJ|pc|h7|pg||
pc|s7|nt|panja: he shd have ruffed a H after AK, 13 tricks that way|pg||
pc|hT|pc|cQ|pc|dQ|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|c2|pc|cA|pc|c5|pg||
nt|kareno: Both defenders win trick 13 :)|pg||
mc|12|pg||
qx|o27|st||md|1SKQJT7HQ98D942C43,SA982HK53DKQ7CAJ8,S64HAJDJT3CKQT962,S53HT7642DA865C75|sv|o|mb|p|mb|1N|nt|lrargerich: How many times will North hold KQxxx of clubs in this set?|pg||
nt|lrargerich: I think we have a record|pg||
mb|p|nt|Walddk2: Bennett is a keen subscriber tro the club suit|pg||
mb|2D|nt|Walddk2: *to|pg||
mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|cK|pc|c5|nt|jtr: averaged 5.2 of them this session|pg||
pc|c4|pc|c8|pg||
pc|dJ|nt|lrargerich: In 10 hands Bennet held a 5+ club suit 5 times :-)|pg||
nt|Walddk2: North overcalled 3@C at the other table|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d2|pc|d7|pg||
pc|h2|pc|h8|pc|hK|pc|hA|pg||
pc|c6|pc|c7|nt|lrargerich: This is a relaxing partscore|pg||
pc|c3|pc|cJ|pg||
pc|h3|pc|hJ|nt|lrargerich: We must admit the boards have been difficult for tired players|pg||
pc|h4|pc|h9|pg||
pc|s6|pc|s3|pc|sT|pc|sA|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c2|pc|s5|pc|hQ|pg||
pc|d4|pc|dK|pc|d3|nt|jtr: sorry been corrected 4.7 clubs per hand|pg||
mc|9|pg||
qx|c27|st||md|1SKQJT7HQ98D942C43,SA982HK53DKQ7CAJ8,S64HAJDJT3CKQT962,S53HT7642DA865C75|sv|o|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|3C|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s5|nt|lebasi: the other room played 3NT in board 26 |pg||
pc|sT|pc|sA|pc|s6|pg||
pc|s2|pc|s4|pc|s3|pc|sK|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|s8|pc|dT|pc|c5|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d2|pc|d7|pc|d3|pg||
pc|d8|pc|d4|pc|dK|pc|dJ|pg||
pc|s9|pc|hJ|pc|c7|pc|s7|pg||
pc|d6|pc|d9|pc|dQ|pc|c6|pg||
pc|cK|pc|h4|pc|c3|pc|c8|pg||
mc|6|pg||
qx|o28|st||md|2SK53HAQ642D8CKJ85,SQJHTDAKQ962CAQ64,ST62HJ873DJT4CT72,SA9874HK95D753C93|sv|n|nt|Walddk2: Luis, no offence intended, but a real gentleman has arrived at the table: the one and only David Bird from England (The Abbot, Brother Lucius etc. etc.)|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Welcome David|pg||
nt|lrargerich: Hi David|pg||
nt|brolucius: Hi!|pg||
nt|brolucius: Has the game been exciting?|pg||
mb|1D|nt|Walddk2: ?=% !Å|pg||
mb|p|nt|Walddk2: If you see what I mean|pg||
mb|1S|nt|reisig: Define exciting|pg||
nt|brolucius: Like the 1NT contract that closed the session last night?|pg||
mb|d|nt|lrargerich: Was that diplomatic Roland? |pg||
mb|r|mb|p|mb|p|nt|lrargerich: I can say some things but never used ?=% !A :-)|pg||
mb|2H|mb|3H|nt|Walddk2: Yes, that's Danish for  "I would say no"|pg||
nt|brolucius: There may be children watching, Luis!|pg||
nt|jtr: No this site is protected from children i believe|pg||
mb|p|mb|3S|nt|lrargerich: 3@s not my choice|pg||
nt|jtr: but it terrifies my dogs|pg||
nt|reisig: No no - I'm here:))|pg||
mb|p|nt|lrargerich: Hard to choose between 3NT or 4@d but surely not 3@s|pg||
mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s3|pc|sQ|pc|s2|nt|jtr: tough choice|pg||
pc|s4|pg||
nt|lrargerich: If the rdbl shows good diamonds then 3NT will probably be the best option after 3@h|pg||
nt|jtr: i would prefer 3@d by West after having XX|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|s6|pc|s7|pc|sK|pg||
pc|hA|pc|hT|pc|h8|pc|h5|pg||
pc|h4|pc|c4|pc|hJ|pc|hK|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s5|pc|c6|pc|sT|pg||
nt|brolucius: Yes, West's bids did not describe her hand very well |pg||
nt|reisig: The defense was ......what's the word?|pg||
pc|d7|pc|d8|nt|pef: poor :)|pg||
pc|dA|nt|lrargerich: I know I know!|pg||
pc|d4|pg||
pc|dK|nt|lrargerich: "timid"|pg||
pc|dT|pc|d3|nt|jtr: insufficient|pg||
nt|lrargerich: David, your words are not on "the list"|pg||
mc|11|pg||
qx|c28|st||md|2SK53HAQ642D8CKJ85,SQJHTDAKQ962CAQ64,ST62HJ873DJT4CT72,SA9874HK95D753C93|sv|n|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|d|nt|kareno: 3nt is a pretty good contract that will make without the jack of hearts lead.|pg||
nt|panja: 3Nt from right side, or 5@D here|pg||
mb|2C|an|tends to deny 3!S|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|3D|mb|p|mb|4D|mb|p|nt|panja: sensible 3@D bid, East doesnt know solid Diamonds|pg||
mb|4H|mb|p|mb|5D|nt|panja: W might have considered 3@H bid instead of 2@H|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|lebasi: why 4@h?  |pg||
mb|p|nt|lebasi: forgot to bid 3@h before?|pg||
pc|s2|nt|lebasi: i don't understand now|pg||
nt|kareno: This will go down with a trump lead or shift I'd say.  Can't make anyway because north beats dummy's diamond.|pg||
nt|vugraph9: 2@H explained as "primarily ASKS for @H stopper"|pg||
pc|s4|pc|sK|pc|sJ|pg||
nt|kareno: Then east lied.  3nt by east is their making contract.|pg||
pc|d8|pc|dA|pc|d4|pc|d3|pg||
pc|dK|pc|dT|pc|d5|pc|h2|pg||
nt|kareno: Diamond is best here.  And north had better cover a heart lead from west.|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|s6|pc|s7|pc|s5|pg||
pc|hT|pc|hJ|pc|hK|pc|hA|pg||
nt|kareno: Good play!|pg||
nt|kareno: He actually will make now.|pg||
nt|panja: @HQ|pg||
nt|kareno: the spade in dummy is the home for declarer's last club.|pg||
nt|panja: no entry to Dummy|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|d6|nt|kareno: Ahh.. you're right :)|pg||
pc|h3|pc|h5|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|c2|pc|c3|pc|cK|pg||
pc|c5|pc|cA|pc|c7|pc|c9|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|dJ|pc|d7|pc|h4|pg||
nt|kareno: Excellent defense.|pg||
nt|kareno: Possible pickup for Ames then if they can get to 3NT.|pg||
nt|panja: in the bidding, W didnt get across his solid Diamonds, that was the cause of the disaster|pg||
mc|10|pg||
qx|o29|st||md|3SAT987H6D73CQJT43,S53HKT43DKJ852CK9,S62H9852DA94C8752,SKQJ4HAQJ7DQT6CA6|sv|b|nt|Walddk2: not describe very well. Add that one to the arsenal of diplomatic words I gave you before Luis|pg||
nt|reisig: Thanks for the help guys:)|pg||
nt|jtr: I have my own list approved by David Burn:-)|pg||
nt|lrargerich: As I said I think 3@h was ok but I didn't like 3@s|pg||
mb|p|nt|jtr: i beg to disagree Luis|pg||
mb|1D|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|brolucius: What was wrong with a 1@H response?|pg||
nt|reisig: a nothing board here|pg||
nt|jtr: well maybe they just misunderstood 3@h  West meant it a sa demand for 3NT|pg||
pc|cQ|nt|Walddk2: After this quarter there will be a long break. Play will resume at 5:00 pm New York, 23:00 Paris, 10:00 pm London and Berwick|pg||
nt|jtr: answer came there none David|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c7|pc|c6|pg||
pc|d2|pc|d4|pc|dQ|nt|brolucius: If you don't respond 1@H you cannot discover a 4-4 fit thereafter, since heart bids would show only stoppers. |pg||
pc|d7|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|h6|pc|hK|pc|h2|pg||
pc|d5|pc|d9|pc|dT|nt|Walddk2: As Richie usually says. How can you get to a heart contract if no one bids them|pg||
pc|d3|pg||
nt|brolucius: Might have been expensive if there was only one club stopper. Here East was very strong, so they survive.|pg||
nt|brolucius: Some people think that applies to spades too...|pg||
pc|hA|nt|lrargerich: In a previous board after 1@d-2@d they bid 2@h with a 4 card suit|pg||
pc|s7|pc|h3|pc|h5|pg||
pc|hQ|nt|brolucius: Yes, but it doesn't promise a 4-card suit|pg||
pc|s8|pc|h4|pc|h8|pg||
pc|h7|pc|s9|pc|hT|pc|h9|pg||
nt|lrargerich: Many pairs play that an inverted raise can have a 4 card major|pg||
pc|s3|pc|s6|pc|sK|nt|lrargerich: and I see nothing wrong with that|pg||
pc|sA|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|c9|pc|c2|pc|cA|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|sT|nt|brolucius: How do they distinguish between stoppers and suits thereafter?|pg||
pc|s5|pc|s2|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|c3|nt|lrargerich: Just a matter of agreement|pg||
nt|jtr: i play it can only have with 5+@ds and a game going hand|pg||
nt|Walddk2: I think it may cause a problem occasionally Luis|pg||
mc|11|pg||
qx|c29|st||md|3SAT987H6D73CQJT43,S53HKT43DKJ852CK9,S62H9852DA94C8752,SKQJ4HAQJ7DQT6CA6|sv|b|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|1S|mb|d|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|cJ|pc|c9|pc|c8|pc|cA|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|h6|pc|h3|pc|h2|pg||
pc|hJ|nt|panja: here, Decl should develop side suits before trumps, he would eventually do that|pg||
pc|s7|pc|h4|pc|h5|pg||
nt|kareno: With extras, east might have considered playing notrump.  4@h will make easily, though.|pg||
pc|sK|pc|sA|pc|s3|pc|s2|pg||
nt|panja: another Club|pg||
pc|c3|pc|cK|pc|c2|pc|c6|pg||
pc|d2|nt|panja: if need be, decl can ruff with @HA, remove trumps and enjoy Diamonds|pg||
nt|vugraph9: declarer lead @DQ from hand -- corrected to @D2 from dummy|pg||
pc|d4|pc|dQ|pc|d3|pg||
pc|d6|pc|d7|pc|dK|pc|d9|pg||
pc|s5|pc|s6|pc|sQ|pc|s8|pg||
pc|dT|pc|c4|pc|d5|pc|dA|pg||
pc|c5|pc|hA|pc|cT|nt|kareno: Now a ruff with the ace (if proffered) and claim.|pg||
mc|11|pg||
qx|o30|st||md|4SJ9HAQ8DQJT6CK654,SAQ764HK74DAK7CT3,SK83H92D943CAQ987,ST52HJT653D852CJ2|sv|o|nt|Walddk2: 1@D  2@D  (3@S overcall). Now you try to find your 4-4 heart fit|pg||
nt|jtr: but my whole stucture of inverted raises is different|pg||
mb|p|mb|1D|mb|1S|nt|lrargerich: Every approach has it ups and downs |pg||
nt|brolucius: It's true that 1@D - 1@H - 2@H (3-card support) may make it hard to get back to 3@D|pg||
mb|1N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|d|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|nt|jtr: might be hard for N/S to compete now|pg||
mb|3C|nt|lrargerich: I wonder why not 2@c over dbl ?|pg||
nt|reisig: why not open 1@c?|pg||
nt|brolucius: Excellent idea!|pg||
nt|jtr: maybe being cautious?:-)|pg||
nt|jtr: thought the usa style was 1@d on 4-4?|pg||
mb|p|nt|reisig: not me|pg||
mb|p|nt|brolucius: Opening 1@C and bidding 2@C over the double both make good sense |pg||
mb|p|pc|s2|pc|s9|pc|sA|pc|s3|pg||
nt|lrargerich: So you can't bid 2@c over dbl but you can reopen with 3@c ???!|pg||
nt|brolucius: Opening 1@D when 4-4 in the minors has always struck me as totally absurd (although favored by 99% of teachers)|pg||
nt|Walddk2: I belong to the 1% then|pg||
nt|reisig: count me among the 1%|pg||
nt|Walddk2: I think it's obvious to open 1@C|pg||
nt|lrargerich: I usually open 1NT when 4-4 in the minors ;-)|pg||
nt|reisig: Luis has a 1NT range of 12-18|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d3|pc|d8|pc|d6|pg||
pc|dK|pc|d4|pc|d2|pc|dT|pg||
pc|d7|nt|jtr: i thought i was different in 'always' opening 1@c|pg||
pc|d9|pc|d5|pc|dJ|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c3|pc|c7|pc|c2|pg||
pc|c4|pc|cT|nt|Walddk2: This I have never seen before. The 2nd quarter is over after 32 boards, but they have agreed to play on until 1 pm New York time, so perhaps 2 or 3 boards more|pg||
pc|cA|pc|cJ|pg||
nt|jtr: would open 1@d 3rd or 4th in hand on South's|pg||
pc|sK|pc|s5|pc|sJ|pc|s4|pg||
pc|s8|pc|sT|pc|c5|nt|Walddk2: You play 1,09 quarter. Interesting|pg||
mc|10|pg||
qx|c30|st||md|4SJ9HAQ8DQJT6CK654,SAQ764HK74DAK7CT3,SK83H92D943CAQ987,ST52HJT653D852CJ2|sv|o|nt|panja: Ames catching up|pg||
mb|p|mb|1D!|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|p|nt|panja: On the last deal, they bid 4@S, not 3Nt|pg||
nt|kareno: Anyone open 1nt with west?  My partnership does - we can find out about 5 card major if necessary.|pg||
mb|d|mb|r|nt|lebasi: n not a very good defense...|pg||
mb|3C|mb|p|nt|lebasi: it depend|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|pc|s2|pc|s9|pc|sA|pc|s3|pg||
nt|lebasi: if i can find 5 cards M i open|pg||
pc|s4|pc|sK|nt|panja: if South had bid 3Nt, he would have had a good chance on a small Spade lead|pg||
pc|sT|pc|sJ|pg||
nt|lebasi: if not i prefer 1@s|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c2|pc|c4|pc|c3|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|cJ|pc|c5|pc|cT|pg||
pc|d4|pc|d8|pc|dT|pc|dK|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d3|pc|d5|pc|d6|pg||
pc|d7|pc|d9|pc|d2|pc|dJ|pg||
nt|kareno: I agree, Isabel.  We play 2 way stayman and can find 5 card majors.|pg||
mc|10|pg||
qx|o31|st||md|1ST86HT632DQ85CKT2,SQJ5HAQJ85DK64C93,SK73H97DJT32CQJ86,SA942HK4DA97CA754|sv|n|nt|lrargerich: In third position I pick the minor that is best lead-directing|pg||
mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|2N|an|natural|mb|p|nt|jtr: Mr Baron has appeared|pg||
mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c2|nt|lrargerich: Not 1@s ?|pg||
nt|jtr: stong balanced i imagine|pg||
nt|reisig: very|pg||
pc|c3|nt|jtr: strong or balanced Richie?|pg||
nt|brolucius: If 2NT was 13-15, forcing, I don't see how it gains over 1@S. So much space wasted if West has to rebid 3@S to find a fit. |pg||
pc|cJ|pc|c4|pg||
pc|c6|pc|c5|pc|cK|pc|c9|pg||
pc|cT|nt|reisig: I would not bid 1@s ...I'd bid 2@c|pg||
nt|jtr: I still play it as 15+ balanced May have @h support|pg||
pc|d4|pc|c8|pc|cA|pg||
pc|hK|pc|h2|pc|h5|pc|h7|pg||
nt|reisig: But - I play it GF and not showing @cs|pg||
pc|h4|pc|h3|pc|hA|pc|h9|pg||
pc|h8|nt|jtr: looks like the sort of hand you would wish partner to play NT|pg||
pc|s3|nt|Walddk2: Richie plays 2@C as a game forcing relay, that's why|pg||
nt|lrargerich: Yes the multi 1M-2@c approach is popular now|pg||
nt|lrargerich: Either clubs or a  balanced hand |pg||
nt|reisig: anything|pg||
nt|brolucius: Kibitzer makes good point that they may play Flannery and that East knows West does not hold spades.  |pg||
nt|lrargerich: Some pairs add a third option, clubs, balanced or support for hearts|pg||
pc|s2|pc|h6|pg||
nt|Walddk2: The F-word is certainly not diplomatic, David|pg||
nt|reisig: 2@c = I'm in charge (for the moment) -- tell me about your hand|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|d2|nt|Walddk2: Don't add that Luis!|pg||
nt|jtr: yes the italians play it as a possible 7-11 heart raise with 3-card support|pg||
pc|s4|pc|hT|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|cQ|nt|brolucius: Another kibitzer confirms that they do play Flannery (Perhaps he knows why. I have never liked the convention!)|pg||
nt|lrargerich: Flannery is evil|pg||
nt|jtr: good because it limits the 1@s -2@s raise|pg||
nt|Walddk2: wowwww, a supporter!|pg||
pc|d7|pc|s6|pg||
nt|Walddk2: F is one of the most useless conventions ever invented|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Along with G|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|s7|nt|lrargerich: Supporter ? Where?|pg||
pc|s9|pc|s8|pg||
nt|brolucius: A kibitzer tells me that Flannery is the worst convention in bridge. I can only say 'Yes, indeed!'|pg||
pc|dK|pc|d3|pc|d9|pc|d5|pg||
pc|d6|pc|dT|pc|dA|pc|d8|pg||
nt|jtr: I am going to start a 'Flannery Preservation' Society:-)|pg||
nt|jtr: endangered species|pg||
mc|11|pg||
qx|c31|st||md|1ST86HT632DQ85CKT2,SQJ5HAQJ85DK64C93,SK73H97DJT32CQJ86,SA942HK4DA97CA754|sv|n|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|2N!|mb|p|mb|3C!|an|minimum raise with 3 !Ss|nt|panja: is 3@C short suit?|pg||
mb|p|nt|kareno: 2nt must be some sort of two-way game try.  Obviously forcing.|pg||
mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|kareno: I suspect 3@c shows only three spades.|pg||
nt|panja: in Hearts they make 11 tricks, in Nt, 10 on a Club lead|pg||
nt|swanson: 2NT is an artifical inquiry about spade support.  3@C is minimum with 3 spades.|pg||
pc|d5|nt|lebasi: nice system|pg||
nt|panja: ok, in that case 3@H bid by East might have been better after 3@C|pg||
nt|kareno: North could have doubled 3@c for the lead but it's risky.|pg||
pc|d4|pc|dT|pc|dA|pg||
pc|s2|pc|s6|pc|sQ|pc|sK|pg||
nt|panja: if West bid 2@S on three cards, one of the minors must be open|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|cA|pc|c2|pc|c3|pg||
pc|hK|pc|h2|pc|h5|pc|h7|pg||
pc|h4|pc|h3|pc|hA|pc|h9|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|d2|pc|c4|nt|lebasi: of course that was the reason i said nice system|pg||
pc|h6|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|d3|pc|c5|pc|hT|pg||
pc|h8|pc|c6|pc|c7|pc|s8|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|s3|pc|s4|pc|sT|pg||
nt|swanson: Play will resume at 5PM New York time, 23:00 Paris (3rd quarter)|pg||
pc|s5|pc|s7|nt|panja: y, but many players only tend to look at the length aspect, not the values aspect|pg||
pc|sA|pc|cK|pg||
pc|s9|pc|cT|pc|c9|nt|lebasi: bid 1NT with xx@c is to play by wrong side|pg||
pc|dJ|pg||
pc|d7|pc|d8|pc|dK|pc|c8|pg||
pc|d6|pc|cJ|pc|d9|pc|dQ|pg||
nt|kareno: Now that's a LONG break :)|pg||
nt|swanson: That's what Roland sent me.|pg||
nt|vugraph9: my understanding is that one of them has to play at 1 (I assume in the Reisinger), hence the shifted start times|pg||
nt|kareno: Oh, I believe it, just a very long break.  |pg||
nt|kareno: Curious they are allowed to play in two National events at the same time.|pg||
nt|vugraph9: oops, sorry -- Simpson is playing in the NA Swiss|pg||
nt|panja: I am sure he must be getting in some rubber bridge in between the two over and above the two tourneys|pg||
nt|kareno: LOL|pg||
pg||
qx|o32|st||md|2SA94HKT8DA43CT765,ST52HA762DK875CA8,SK76HQ543DJTCQJ42,SQJ83HJ9DQ962CK93|sv|e|nt|brolucius: Reese reckoned that it dealt with a hand type that caused no problems whatsoever in standard bidding|pg||
nt|lrargerich: You will have a lot of work as the only member...|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Then I will start the Flannery-Gerber Abolishing Society :-)|pg||
nt|jtr: i play it as a necessity not by choice|pg||
nt|reisig: I used Gerber once|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|reisig: it was 1976 ...I think|pg||
nt|brolucius: There should be at least one hopeless convention for every letter of the alphabet. We have F and G already.|pg||
nt|jtr: in a nightmare Richie?:-)|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|brolucius: I failed to use Gerber once and my wife passed 4NT when we had a cold slam available|pg||
nt|Walddk2: The Argerich convention is also pretty bad. Now we have one for   A|pg||
nt|reisig: yes -- I bid 4@c (Gerber) and partner thought it was a splinter|pg||
nt|brolucius: The bidding was 2NT - 3@H (natural) - 4@H and she then passed my 4NT. I had an eight-card suit!|pg||
nt|jtr: you could always use 4@c as Texas David:-)|pg||
nt|lrargerich: For "A" I would pick "Albarran"|pg||
nt|reisig: 4@c as texas is great|pg||
nt|lrargerich: B=Blackwood, C=Cappeletti ....|pg||
nt|Walddk2: We will play 2 additional boards before the lengthy break|pg||
nt|jtr: D for DONT?|pg||
nt|lrargerich: No, I like DONT :-)|pg||
nt|jtr: E for Ekran|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Ekren|pg||
nt|jtr: oops sorry my Norweigan again:-)|pg||
pg||
qx|c32|st||md|2SA94HKT8DA43CT765,ST52HA762DK875CA8,SK76HQ543DJTCQJ42,SQJ83HJ9DQ962CK93|sv|e|nt|panja: will this be passed out?|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|p|nt|panja: good point to begin 1@D, their suit|pg||
mb|1H!|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|sQ|nt|lebasi: it's an option|pg||
nt|vugraph9: I think 1@H could be 3 ... ames was commenting that dummy's a bit short  :)|pg||
nt|panja: good beginning for the defense|pg||
pc|s4|pc|s2|pc|sK|pg||
pc|h3|pc|h9|pc|hT|pc|h2|pg||
nt|lebasi: NS play strong @c or precision|pg||
pc|hK|pc|h6|pc|h4|pc|hJ|pg||
pc|c5|pc|c8|pc|cQ|nt|lebasi: don't?|pg||
pc|cK|pg||
nt|kareno: That south hand is one I would throw back in the water to give it a chance to grow :)|pg||
pc|s3|pc|sA|pc|s5|nt|panja: Decl has to get in Clubs|pg||
pc|s7|pg||
pc|c6|pc|cA|pc|c2|pc|c3|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h5|nt|lebasi: wd Karen|pg||
pc|c9|pc|h8|pg||
pc|sT|nt|panja: trump control is the issue|pg||
pc|s6|pc|sJ|pc|s9|pg||
nt|swanson: You don't pay $12.00 or so a session to toss in hands.|pg||
pc|s8|pc|d3|nt|kareno: $12?  John, you're living in the past :)|pg||
pc|d5|nt|panja: disc Diamond both hands|pg||
pc|hQ|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|d2|pc|c7|pc|h7|pg||
nt|kareno: Ames has proven us wrong!!|pg||
nt|panja: thx all, bye|pg||
nt|lebasi: bye:-))|pg||
nt|kareno: Thanks to our wonderful viewgraph operator <clap clap clap clap>|pg||
nt|kareno: See you all later!|pg||
nt|vugraph9: bye all -- we'll be back a bit before 5|pg||
mc|7|pg||