vg|2004 NABC Senior KO Teams,4th Quarter Semi,I,17,32,Rosenkranz,118,Ames,118| rs|2SS-1,2SS=,4HE+3,4HW+3,2SS-2,3DE=,4HS-1,4HS-1,3NW-2,2NW+1,4SW+1,5CNx-3,,3SW-1,,4HW-1,,5CW+2,,1NS=,,5DN=,,5DE=,,4SE+1,,5CS-2,,6DE=,,2DS+1| pn|Ferguson,Egan,Bates,Beery,Koch,Schermer,Ames,Chambers|pg|| qx|o17|st||md|3SKJ9653HA3DK5CA43,SA84HJ854DJ74CQJ6,S7HQ9762DQTCK9872,SQT2HKTDA98632CT5|sv|o|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d4|pc|dT|pc|dA|pc|dK|pg|| nt|jbgood: ans starting with a spades partial making 2|pg|| nt|jbgood: unless daclarer does something odd in the trump suit|pg|| pc|d8|pc|d5|pc|d7|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|s7|pc|s2|nt|jbgood: @s to the nine or jack works|pg|| nt|jbgood: king does not|pg|| nt|jbgood: but is an alternative|pg|| pc|sK|pc|sA|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|c2|pc|d3|pc|s3|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s4|pc|h2|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|d9|pc|s5|pc|s8|pc|h6|pg|| pc|h4|nt|jbgood: king is not as bad as it seems - can cater for two 4-2 spilts in spades|pg|| pc|h7|pc|hT|pc|hA|pg|| pc|s9|pc|h5|pc|c7|pc|sT|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Welcome back to John Swanson from USA|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h3|pc|h8|nt|jbgood: rehi John|pg|| nt|swanson: Hello again,|pg|| mc|7|pg|| qx|c17|st||md|3SKJ9653HA3DK5CA43,SA84HJ854DJ74CQJ6,S7HQ9762DQTCK9872,SQT2HKTDA98632CT5|sv|o|nt|Walddk3: Welcome to your commentators for the final segment: Sergey Kustarov from Russia and John Stewart, Canada|pg|| nt|stewball: hiya sergey:)..hi everyone welcom|pg|| nt|dinos1: hi everybody|pg|| nt|dinos1: hi John|pg|| nt|stewball: rosenkrantz recovered alsost 40 imps last quarter to draw even|pg|| nt|dinos1: in last segment IMP's fly from one team to another|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|stewball: and now they have their strongest lineup with their sponser sitting out|pg|| mb|1S|mb|p|mb|1N|an|forcing|mb|p|nt|dinos1: the more interesting it will be :)|pg|| mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|cQ|nt|stewball: quiet parstcore to start..looks like 110 or so|pg|| nt|Walddk3: Welcome to our expert from New Zealand: Wayne Burrows|pg|| nt|stewball: hey wayne|pg|| nt|dinos1: hi Wayne|pg|| nt|cascade: Hi Roland, John and Sergey|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c5|pc|cA|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h5|pc|h2|pc|hT|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h4|pc|h9|pc|hK|pg|| pc|cT|pc|c3|pc|c6|pc|cK|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|sQ|pc|c4|pc|h8|pg|| pc|dA|pc|dK|pc|d4|pc|dT|pg|| nt|cascade: So IMPs to Ames here|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d5|pc|d7|pc|dQ|pg|| nt|dinos1: 9 tricks now - 5 imps|pg|| pc|s7|pc|s2|pc|s9|nt|cascade: yes an overtrick looks normal|pg|| nt|cascade: and certain now|pg|| pc|sA|pg|| pc|cJ|nt|dinos1: no - promotion of @s8|pg|| nt|mikeh: I am very impressed by the way the ames team has hung in after the big comeback by the heavily favoured rosenkranz squad|pg|| pc|c7|pc|sT|pc|sJ|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s4|nt|cascade: no still a trump promotion|pg|| pc|c8|pc|d2|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s8|pc|c9|pc|d6|pg|| nt|dinos1: so 4 imps|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|o18|st||md|4SAJ43H97DJ97632CT,SQ5HAKQDAQ85CAKQ9,SKT962H32DCJ86532,S87HJT8654DKT4C74|sv|n|nt|swanson: This is the final set of 16 boards in a semi-final match of the National Senior Teams.|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|jbgood: west has what I never have when playing rubber bridge:)|pg|| nt|swanson: The hands in the first three sets have been quite exciting (accounting for the very large IMP totals.)|pg|| mb|2C|mb|p|nt|Walddk2: This is quite amazing too|pg|| mb|2H|an|1 king|nt|Walddk2: Who would believe that 4@H can go down if played by East?|pg|| nt|jbgood: 3 aces are much above my average|pg|| mb|p|nt|jbgood: and kings and queens to boot|pg|| mb|3N|nt|swanson: My guess is that 2@H was artifical.|pg|| mb|p|mb|4D|mb|p|nt|Walddk2: How do you like 4@S NS?|pg|| mb|4H|nt|Walddk2: Not that they are going to get there|pg|| mb|p|nt|jbgood: guess 2 @h was second negative - transferring now - wisely|pg|| mb|p|nt|swanson: They probably would have found it if not vul.|pg|| nt|Walddk2: You pick up a balanced 26 count and you can't beat 4@S, quite amazing|pg|| mb|p|pc|cT|pc|cA|pc|c8|pc|c4|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|h4|pc|h7|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h3|pc|h5|pc|h9|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Or maybe you can ... on a club lead|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c6|pc|c7|pc|d3|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c5|nt|Walddk2: Anyway, NS didn't find the killing defence|pg|| pc|s7|pc|d2|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Welcome to Stephen Peterkin from Scotland|pg|| pc|d5|pc|s2|nt|spil: hello all|pg|| pc|dK|nt|jbgood: do I hear the bagpipes?|pg|| nt|spil: I hope not|pg|| nt|jbgood: hehe|pg|| nt|Walddk2: You do indeed, and Stephen is wearing a kilt|pg|| mc|13|pg|| qx|c18|st||md|4SAJ43H97DJ97632CT,SQ5HAKQDAQ85CAKQ9,SKT962H32DCJ86532,S87HJT8654DKT4C74|sv|n|nt|stewball: i assume ferguson/bates playing in the open room?|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|2C|nt|stewball: my spies tell me yes|pg|| mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|nt|dinos1: it's seen in movie :)|pg|| mb|2H|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|2N|an|24-26|nt|dinos1: right-sided 4@h :)|pg|| nt|cascade: a routine 4@h and slam on a non-spade lead but dont expect them to get that high|pg|| nt|dinos1: else 2 @d ruffs wd beat it|pg|| nt|stewball: this is kokish's invention....2@h is either natural or a balanced 25+|pg|| mb|p|mb|4D|an|transfer|mb|p|mb|4H|nt|stewball: 2@s was forced and 2NT showed the balanced hand,,|pg|| mb|p|nt|cascade: Chambers is transfering to hearts and not going any further|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|pc|c3|pc|c4|pc|cT|pc|cK|pg|| pc|hA|nt|dinos1: same 13 tricks|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h4|pc|h7|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h3|pc|h5|pc|h9|pg|| pc|hQ|nt|cascade: are there 13?|pg|| pc|c2|nt|dinos1: if play @d to K|pg|| pc|h6|pc|d6|pg|| nt|cascade: yes|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c5|pc|c7|pc|d2|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c6|pc|s7|pc|d3|pg|| pc|d5|nt|stewball: must do it now....|pg|| pc|s2|pc|dK|pc|d7|pg|| pc|dT|pc|dJ|pc|dA|mc|13|pg|| qx|o19|st||md|1SKQ872HKJ8DJT86CA,SAJT6HT6532DK7CT9,S43HQ974D2CQJ7543,S95HADAQ9543CK862|sv|e|nt|Walddk2: All Scottish male commentators must|pg|| nt|spil: that would be quite disconcerting|pg|| nt|jbgood: actually I am a bagpipe fan:)|pg|| nt|spil: I used to play the bagpipes...|pg|| nt|spil: but then sanity crept in :)|pg|| mb|1S|mb|p|mb|1N|nt|Walddk2: I can only think of 1 thing worse than a bagpipe ............................|pg|| mb|p|nt|Walddk2: 2 bagpipes :-(|pg|| nt|jbgood: just send me the one you dont play anymore - I will take the burden off your shoulders:)|pg|| mb|2D|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|swanson: Very conservative of Beery not to bid 2@D. But pleased after SOuth's bid.|pg|| nt|spil: I actually sold them to pay my rent as a student|pg|| nt|spil: ...that's a true story|pg|| pc|h2|nt|Walddk2: You mean you found a Scotsman who was willing to *pay* for them??|pg|| pc|h4|pc|hA|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|c8|pc|cA|pc|c9|pc|c3|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|dK|pc|d2|pc|d5|pg|| pc|cT|pc|cQ|pc|c2|pc|d6|pg|| pc|h7|pc|s5|pc|hK|pc|h3|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Rosenkranz was hot favourite going into this semi-final|pg|| pc|s9|pc|sK|nt|Walddk2: Seeded 2. Ames seeded 23|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s3|pg|| nt|swanson: The club continuation by Egan after partner's @C8 return seems doubtful.|pg|| pc|sJ|nt|jbgood: not the best defence - |pg|| pc|s4|pc|d3|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|h8|pc|h5|pc|h9|pc|d4|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|c6|pc|dT|pc|h6|pg|| pc|c4|pc|cK|nt|jbgood: interesting|pg|| mc|6|pg|| qx|c19|st||md|1SKQ872HKJ8DJT86CA,SAJT6HT6532DK7CT9,S43HQ974D2CQJ7543,S95HADAQ9543CK862|sv|e|nt|mikeh: what we saw after 2@C 2@D was the kokish relay: 2@H forces 2@S and is based on either @h, as 1-suiter or two-suiter, or a hand too big to rebid 2N over 2@D|pg|| nt|mikeh: sorry, john, u were ahead of me|pg|| nt|mikeh: :)|pg|| mb|1S|mb|p|nt|mikeh: I have to pay more attention:)|pg|| mb|p|mb|2D|nt|stewball: well it took me 2 paragraphs ,u did it in one|pg|| mb|p|nt|mikeh: ames has less incentive than standard bidders to keep the auction alive, sine ns play a big club method|pg|| nt|stewball: anyone else hate the pass of 1@s?|pg|| nt|dinos1: but long one :)|pg|| mb|p|mb|d|nt|stewball: at this vul it doesnt seem like a winning tactic|pg|| nt|mikeh: I don't mind it in the context of the method... I like to hold an Ace or at least a King when I respond light|pg|| mb|r|nt|stewball: regardless of their methods|pg|| nt|cascade: Pass is quite common opposite a limited 1@s|pg|| nt|stewball: never:)|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|3C|nt|dinos1: I vote for pass :)|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|cascade: if i could bid a non-forcing 2@c I would do that|pg|| nt|dinos1: who play 2@c as NF? :)|pg|| mb|3D|mb|p|nt|cascade: some strong club systems allow a non-forcing 2@c|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|pc|cA|nt|dinos1: and the only forcing is 1n?|pg|| pc|c9|nt|mikeh: but do they not have it as at least constructive? otherwise the forcing notrump becomes overloaded, if it has to contain invitational hands as well as big ones?|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c2|pg|| pc|sK|pc|sA|pc|s3|pc|s5|pg|| pc|s6|pc|s4|pc|s9|pc|sQ|pg|| nt|cascade: yes normally constructive |pg|| pc|s8|pc|sT|pc|d2|pc|d3|pg|| nt|cascade: but with 6421 hand you can upgrade a little|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d8|pc|dK|pc|c4|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|c5|pc|c6|pc|s2|pg|| pc|cT|pc|cJ|pc|cK|pc|d6|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d7|mc|9|pg|| qx|o20|st||md|2S75HA9654DAKCAT82,SQ63HK7DQJT43C765,SK92HQJ2D9862CK94,SAJT84HT83D75CQJ3|sv|b|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|nt|Walddk2: Chambers - Schermer right-sided 4@H on board 18, so there was no way NS could have beaten it. Same 13 tricks|pg|| mb|2H|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|nt|swanson: Good shape and controls for South, but lots of losers.|pg|| nt|jbgood: sh pass now - they must have some drury tool|pg|| mb|3C|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|dQ|nt|jbgood: incredible|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d5|pc|dA|pg|| nt|spil: no doubt we've all been in worse but no joy here,I think|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s3|pc|sK|pc|sA|pg|| nt|jbgood: unless of course 2@h is game inviting|pg|| nt|Walddk2: @H10 would have made this a decent game vulnerable. I don't think they overbid quite as much as Jon says|pg|| pc|d7|pc|dK|pc|d3|pc|d6|pg|| pc|c2|nt|jbgood: not they Roland - only south:)|pg|| pc|c7|pc|cK|pc|c3|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h3|pc|h4|pc|hK|pg|| nt|swanson: I was about to say that if West doesn't shift to a spade when in with the @HK, Declarer could make the contract on a endplay.|pg|| nt|swanson: But declarer led a spade at trick two.|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d8|pc|s4|pc|h5|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h7|pc|h2|pc|h8|pg|| pc|h6|pc|d4|pc|hJ|pc|hT|pg|| pc|c9|pc|cJ|pc|cA|pc|c5|pg|| pc|cT|pc|c6|pc|c4|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s7|nt|Walddk2: Stephen is from Dundee. Here is another Scotsman, she's from Edinburgh. Welcome to Liz McGowan|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|c20|st||md|2S75HA9654DAKCAT82,SQ63HK7DQJT43C765,SK92HQJ2D9862CK94,SAJT84HT83D75CQJ3|sv|b|nt|stewball: so 110 and a push|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|nt|stewball: i would note that bates responded in the other room:)|pg|| mb|2H|mb|2S|nt|dinos1: he doesnt play strong @c:)|pg|| mb|3C|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|stewball: lots of non strong club hands make game|pg|| nt|cascade: yes especially if there is a heart fit|pg|| nt|dinos1: 2@s bid has warned that 4@h won't be good contract|pg|| pc|s3|nt|mikeh: I like the 2@H bid: I think it shows good evaluation of the aceless shape, but he would have felt he was holding back, so even though the @SK ought to be devalued, he couldn't help ...|pg|| nt|mikeh: himself|pg|| nt|vugraph9: In the other match|pg|| nt|vugraph9: 1 Colchamiro 75 4 Bennett 128|pg|| pc|s9|pc|sT|pc|s5|pg|| nt|stewball: a little surprised he didnt try 3NT if he's going to bid game....|pg|| nt|vugraph9: In the Blue Ribbon Pairs|pg|| pc|d7|pc|dA|pc|d4|pc|d2|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c5|pc|cK|pc|c3|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h3|pc|h4|nt|dinos1: yes - if bid game then rather 3n|pg|| pc|hK|pg|| nt|vugraph9: Sabine Auken - Daniella Von Arnim lead by 5 MPs with one session to go|pg|| pc|sQ|nt|stewball: can any recall a women pair winning the blue ribbons before?|pg|| nt|mikeh: but he knows that if south has great @H and @C, he cannot hold a @D stopper as well, so 9 tricks seems very unlikely. He is hoping, I assume, for a good 5-5 or better|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s4|pc|s7|pg|| pc|dT|pc|d6|pc|d5|pc|dK|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h7|pc|hJ|pc|h8|pg|| pc|h2|pc|hT|pc|hA|pc|d3|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c6|pc|c4|pc|cJ|pg|| nt|stewball: well a better than good 5-5 seems irrelevant:)|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|o21|st||md|3SA2HTDQT73CKJT863,SK98H753DK65CAQ42,ST764HJ98642DA9C5,SQJ53HAKQDJ842C97|sv|n|nt|vugraph7: In the other match|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Hi Liz|pg|| nt|cuttysark: Hello, everybody|pg|| nt|vugraph7: 1 Colchamiro 75 4 Bennett 128|pg|| mb|p|mb|1D|mb|2C|nt|swanson: Hi. I believe that Liz is also a World Grand Master.|pg|| mb|2N|nt|cuttysark: Yes, kind of|pg|| nt|vugraph7: In the Blue Ribbon, with one session to go...|pg|| nt|vugraph7: Auken Von Arnim lead by 5 MPs|pg|| nt|vugraph7: Pettis and Palmer are 2nd|pg|| mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c5|pc|c7|pc|c8|pc|cQ|pg|| nt|jbgood: and this contract is not third - but down|pg|| nt|cuttysark: There is a DD line here, but it is not easy!|pg|| nt|swanson: This contract doesn't have much chance with the @DA offside.|pg|| pc|s8|pc|s4|pc|sQ|pc|sA|pg|| pc|cK|nt|swanson: Do you think 2NT was forcing or has Ferguson moved to the East seat?|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Even if declarer divines the spade suit I don't think he can make it|pg|| nt|Walddk2: He did not, but it wouldn't have been enough|pg|| pc|c2|pc|h9|pc|c9|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|cA|pc|h2|pc|d2|pg|| nt|jbgood: nothing is enough - strange:)|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s7|pc|s3|pc|s2|pg|| pc|s9|pc|sT|pc|sJ|pc|hT|pg|| pc|hA|pc|d3|pc|h3|pc|h4|pg|| pc|hK|pc|c3|pc|h5|pc|h6|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|c6|pc|h7|pc|h8|pg|| nt|swanson: Egan will toss North in with the fourth club to score here @DK.|pg|| pc|d4|pc|dT|pc|dK|nt|swanson: spade|pg|| pc|dA|pg|| pc|hJ|nt|swanson: Maybe not.|pg|| nt|cuttysark: Well, he might have done!|pg|| mc|7|pg|| qx|c21|st||md|3SA2HTDQT73CKJT863,SK98H753DK65CAQ42,ST764HJ98642DA9C5,SQJ53HAKQDJ842C97|sv|n|mb|p|nt|stewball: more pushes in this quarter already than the whole 3rd quarter|pg|| nt|dinos1: will you bid 4@h with @sxxx @hQJx @dxxxx @cKxx?|pg|| mb|1D|mb|2C|nt|mikeh: yes, partner will pull of course with that, but it is very difficult to construct a hand on which 3N is better than 4@H and the risk of undertricks will be much greater in the ...|pg|| nt|mikeh: former|pg|| nt|reisig: 2@c risky|pg|| mb|2N|mb|p|nt|cascade: yes to minimize undertricks you need two spade stoppers or more values|pg|| nt|mikeh: esp opp a passed hand, and since 2@Cx making is low cost for opps|pg|| nt|stewball: ive been advised that no womens PAIR has won the blue ribbons...would be a great coup for them|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|pc|c5|nt|reisig: with 7 easy tricks ...will gain a bit|pg|| nt|mikeh: that looks like a conservative view by schermer, with the equivalent of a 13 count in prime cards|pg|| nt|dinos1: yes - his @c's = AK :)|pg|| nt|reisig: 4-3-3-3 not a great shape|pg|| nt|cascade: yes but bad shape and no 10s|pg|| pc|c7|pc|cT|nt|cascade: but his @c42 are worthless|pg|| nt|dinos1: and the only 4cd is @c :)|pg|| pc|c2|pg|| nt|mikeh: yes, the @C9 would probably have been enough for him to bid game|pg|| nt|mikeh: and it depends on partner's opening bid style|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d5|pc|dA|pc|d2|pg|| pc|d9|nt|mikeh: I meant nothing negative with the 'conservative' comment: I am a card-carrying member of the chicken society:)|pg|| nt|reisig: If he had @c 9 ..he'd pass and collect|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d7|pc|dK|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h2|pc|hQ|pc|hT|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s2|pc|sK|pc|s4|pg|| nt|stewball: active defense was not the way to go here......better to just push cards|pg|| nt|stewball: odd that schermer didnt cover the @d 9|pg|| pc|s9|pc|sT|pc|sQ|pc|sA|pg|| nt|cascade: yes the diamond is the 8th trick|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|cQ|pc|h4|pc|c9|pg|| nt|reisig: now the @s is|pg|| pc|cA|nt|dinos1: in 3n he wd duck @s|pg|| pc|h6|nt|cascade: unusual cover of the @s9|pg|| nt|mikeh: yes, why not the @C suit? what was the hurry?|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|o22|st||md|4SQT8HKQ43DT42CQJ2,SKJ743HA9DQ93CT93,S52HT87DA8CK87654,SA96HJ652DKJ765CA|sv|e|nt|swanson: She - Mary Egan from Lincoln, Nebraska with partner Rod Beery.|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Our plan is to broadcast the final tomorrow, but it's still unclear what time we will start. 10:00 am NY, 16:00 is likely but it's not a fact yet|pg|| nt|cuttysark: Apologies, will try to keep up|pg|| mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1S|nt|Walddk2: 16:00 Paris that is|pg|| mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c7|nt|cuttysark: I guess if you keep bidding games one of them is bound to make|pg|| pc|cA|pc|cQ|pc|c3|pg|| pc|d5|nt|jbgood: this one is a make if declarer gets it right|pg|| pc|d2|pc|dQ|nt|swanson: This has become a slam hand - sort of.|pg|| pc|dA|pg|| nt|jbgood: good strart|pg|| pc|hT|nt|jbgood: home free now - almost|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h3|pc|hA|pg|| nt|Walddk2: I have been told that no womens *pair* has won the Blue Ribbons yet, so it would be something special if Auken-von Arnim do|pg|| nt|jbgood: another club from norht would have been more challenging|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s2|pc|sA|pc|sQ|pg|| nt|swanson: I believe that only three women in mixed pairs have won. Dorothy Truscott, Jill Meyers, and I forget.|pg|| pc|h5|pc|hQ|pc|h9|pc|h8|pg|| pc|dT|pc|d3|pc|d8|pc|dJ|pg|| nt|jbgood: a spade to the J would have been ok?|pg|| nt|swanson: I am told it is only two.|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Special service for Jon: Australia 27 for 0 after TWO overs against NZ in Adelaide. Happy now Jon?|pg|| pc|h6|pc|h4|pc|s4|pc|h7|pg|| nt|cuttysark: South's imaginative falsecard seems to have achieved rather more than just slowing down the play|pg|| nt|jbgood: happy not speaking Krickish:))|pg|| nt|jbgood: Hi Lizzie:)|pg|| nt|cuttysark: Nobody, but nobody, calls me Lizzie!|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Until now :-)|pg|| nt|jbgood: sry - what about Lassie|pg|| nt|swanson: With North having a low spade and the two diamonds, I see no way for declarer be set.|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s5|nt|cuttysark: Lassie is OK, if combined with bonny|pg|| pc|s6|pc|s8|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|c4|pc|s9|pc|sT|pg|| nt|cuttysark: Yes, she has woken up|pg|| nt|jbgood: settled then|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|c23|st||md|1S3HAQJ52DK5CK9732,SA862H983DJT862C8,SKT95HT64D974CQJ4,SQJ74HK7DAQ3CAT65|sv|b|nt|dinos1: that's why i said about guess from 2 @h layout|pg|| mb|1H|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|d|mb|3C|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|reisig: no X .. no trouble?|pg|| nt|mikeh: I have to go: been fun... enjoy all|pg|| nt|reisig: bye Mike|pg|| pc|cJ|nt|dinos1: bye|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c7|pc|c8|pg|| nt|dinos1: @dQ?|pg|| nt|cascade: the winning line is to play diamonds|pg|| nt|cascade: He is short of tricks so he is going to need the diamonds eventually maybe that is enough of a clue to start them|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s3|pc|s2|nt|dinos1: why short? he isnt in game|pg|| pc|sK|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h7|pc|hQ|nt|dinos1: 1@s 1@d and 2@h to lose|pg|| pc|h3|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h8|pc|h6|pc|hK|pg|| pc|cK|pc|s8|pc|c4|pc|c5|pg|| nt|cascade: yes but that is not nine tricks|pg|| pc|d8|pc|d4|pc|dQ|pc|dK|pg|| nt|cascade: you can set up the diamonds but you need to be certain you will have an entry to them after they are established|pg|| pc|d5|nt|dinos1: entry in @d|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d7|pc|dA|pg|| pc|s4|nt|dinos1: if you play @dQ|pg|| pc|h2|pc|sA|pc|s5|pg|| nt|cascade: yes|pg|| pc|dT|pc|d9|pc|d3|pc|h5|pg|| pc|d6|pc|s9|pc|sJ|pc|c2|pg|| pc|c6|pc|c9|pc|s6|pc|cQ|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|c24|st||md|2SAJT96H2DAQ632C53,S7532HAKJ764DCAJ2,SQ4HQ98D9754CK976,SK8HT53DKJT8CQT84|sv|o|mb|1H|mb|p|nt|stewball: ok folks i have a commitment after this hand,,,let me know how it turns out:)|pg|| mb|1N|an|forcing|nt|cascade: bye John|pg|| nt|reisig: bye John|pg|| nt|dinos1: bye|pg|| mb|2H|mb|3H|nt|reisig: I'd bid 3N here|pg|| nt|stewball: chambers was going to show a balanced 3 card raise|pg|| mb|p|nt|dinos1: 3n or 4@c?|pg|| mb|4H|nt|cascade: what range?|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|stewball: 9-11|pg|| mb|p|nt|reisig: a bad 9|pg|| nt|cascade: i think 4@H is wrong|pg|| pc|sQ|nt|cascade: yes and it is worse after 2@h by Koch|pg|| nt|reisig: the @s king looks bad|pg|| nt|dinos1: same useless @sK :)|pg|| nt|cascade: and any heart honours rate to be offside|pg|| nt|stewball: just look at all those 10s:)|pg|| nt|cascade: and one of his minor suits will be badly placed|pg|| pc|sK|pc|sA|pc|s2|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s3|pc|s4|pc|s8|pg|| nt|stewball: this had a chance on a @d lead,,no shot here|pg|| pc|h2|pc|hA|nt|cascade: what range is 1@h 2@h directly likely to be - worse than 9-11?|pg|| pc|h9|pc|h3|pg|| nt|stewball: i think he simply judged the hand too good with all those 10s|pg|| nt|dinos1: 10's are good in NT|pg|| nt|cascade: so you think he was going to raise to 3@H?|pg|| nt|stewball: yes|pg|| nt|cascade: no aces I don't like that - the 10s just make up for the Queens and Jacks|pg|| nt|dinos1: yes|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h8|pc|h5|pc|d2|pg|| nt|stewball: you guys are tough:)|pg|| pc|s5|nt|dinos1: in suit some of your pts will be useless|pg|| pc|c6|pc|hT|pc|s6|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c3|pc|cJ|pc|cK|pg|| nt|cascade: exactly and along with the points some of the tens|pg|| nt|stewball: keep in mind he prob thought Kx of @s was an asset...|pg|| nt|cascade: i accept that |pg|| nt|reisig: WAS|pg|| nt|cascade: but he knew it wasnt when he bid 4@s|pg|| nt|stewball: well he could hardly pass 3@h|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|c25|st||md|3S874HKJT73DJ2C754,SAKHQ4DAK76CKT863,SQJT9652H852D85CQ,S3HA96DQT943CAJ92|sv|e|nt|stewball: in my opinion anyway|pg|| mb|3S|mb|p|nt|dinos1: so better bid just 2@h :)|pg|| mb|4S|nt|stewball: anyway,have fun,,see y'all next time|pg|| nt|cascade: bye|pg|| nt|reisig: I don't like Pass ...over 3@s|pg|| nt|cascade: 13 tricks available here EW|pg|| mb|d|mb|p|nt|reisig: what now? maybe 5N|pg|| mb|4N|mb|p|nt|dinos1: 4 ok|pg|| nt|dinos1: now 5N|pg|| mb|5C|nt|cascade: only 4NT|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|reisig: pass?|pg|| nt|cascade: Schermer shouldnt being playing Chambers for this much|pg|| nt|rbeye2: new leader|pg|| pc|sJ|nt|cascade: so Chambers can bid some more|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s7|pc|sK|pg|| pc|c3|pc|cQ|pc|cA|pc|c4|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c5|pc|cT|pc|s5|pg|| pc|cK|pc|s2|pc|c9|pc|c7|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d5|mc|13|pg|| qx|c26|st||md|4SK93HAJDAK984CA84,SQT7HKT92DT32CKQJ,SJ54H7654DQJ7C975,SA862HQ83D65CT632|sv|b|mb|p|mb|1C!|mb|p|mb|1D!|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|cK|pc|c5|pc|c3|pc|c8|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c7|pc|c2|pc|cA|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d2|pc|dQ|pc|d6|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d5|pc|d8|pc|d3|pg|| pc|d7|nt|reisig: easy to play in 1N:))|pg|| pc|s6|pc|dA|pc|dT|pg|| pc|dK|nt|dinos1: not 2 :)|pg|| pc|hT|pc|h4|pc|s2|pg|| pc|d9|pc|s7|pc|h5|pc|h8|pg|| pc|c4|pc|cJ|pc|c9|pc|c6|pg|| nt|dinos1: so didnt risk for 8 tricks|pg|| nt|cascade: 2NT is easy to play too |pg|| nt|cascade: just more risk|pg|| nt|dinos1: with @sA on|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h6|pc|hQ|pc|hA|pg|| nt|cascade: well you just have to hope for it |pg|| pc|hJ|pc|hK|pc|h7|pc|h3|pg|| pc|h9|nt|dinos1: in 2 - yes|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s8|nt|cascade: yes only in 2|pg|| nt|dinos1: in 1 - hope for opposite:)|pg|| nt|reisig: so - they should be in 2 :))|pg|| mc|7|pg|| qx|c27|st||md|1SA4HT986DA9653CJT,ST82HQJ5DK4C98752,SKQ96H3DQJ87CAK64,SJ753HAK742DT2CQ3|sv|o|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1D!|mb|1H|mb|2D|mb|2H|mb|3D|mb|p|nt|dinos1: wd you bid 2@s?|pg|| nt|reisig: no|pg|| nt|cascade: 1@d is limited so this is about as good as he can be|pg|| nt|dinos1: 2@d - 5+@d?|pg|| nt|reisig: 2@h now|pg|| nt|pef: the results on 22 through 26 are -500 +100 +50 -640 and +90|pg|| mb|3S|nt|reisig: 3@h -- I mean|pg|| nt|dinos1: i see 1@d was alerted|pg|| mb|p|nt|cascade: Koch bids spades without spades instead|pg|| mb|4S|mb|p|mb|5D|mb|p|nt|cascade: this is one way to 5@d|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|dinos1: coz he knows about @h stiff in pd's hand|pg|| pc|hK|nt|dinos1: with 4@s he wd X first|pg|| pc|h6|nt|dinos1: or bid 1@s acc their agreement|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h3|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d3|pc|dK|pc|d7|pg|| pc|c5|pc|cA|pc|c3|pc|cT|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|dT|pc|d5|pc|d4|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|c28|st||md|2SJ8752HKQT8DT84C6,S96HA42DAQ53CJ743,SQT43H97653D9CAQT,SAKHJDKJ762CK9852|sv|n|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|2D!|mb|p|nt|cascade: i am told that the other room played 6@d -1|pg|| mb|3C|mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|4C|mb|p|nt|cascade: so that is 10 more IMPs for Ames|pg|| nt|cascade: the previous four boards were tied I think|pg|| mb|4H|mb|p|nt|cascade: so 136-124 is my unofficial score|pg|| mb|4S|mb|p|mb|5D|mb|p|mb|p|nt|cascade: no that is incorrect|pg|| mb|p|nt|cascade: the results I had for the previous board were not in fact correct|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s6|pc|sQ|pc|sA|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d4|pc|d3|pc|d9|pg|| pc|d6|pc|d8|pc|dQ|pc|h3|pg|| pc|dA|pc|s4|pc|d2|pc|dT|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|cA|pc|c2|pc|c6|pg|| pc|s3|pc|sK|nt|cascade: 2nd iteration 144-125 is the correct score before this board|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s9|pg|| pc|cK|nt|cascade: assuming this makes 10 IMPs to Rosenkranz|pg|| nt|cascade: so 144-135|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|c29|st||md|3S5HA642DKJ754CQ82,SAJ984HQT73D92CK5,SK32H85DQT86CT976,SQT76HKJ9DA3CAJ43|sv|b|nt|cascade: Ames leads|pg|| nt|cascade: sorry for the technical problems with the scores|pg|| mb|p|mb|1N|nt|cascade: EW have +620 in the other room on this board 4@s=|pg|| mb|p|mb|2D!|mb|p|mb|2S|nt|cascade: that looks like a normal result|pg|| mb|p|nt|cascade: 2@d must be a forcing Stayman here|pg|| mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|nt|dinos1: 2@d - Stayman?|pg|| mb|p|nt|dinos1: looks like|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c5|pc|c9|nt|dinos1: 11 now|pg|| pc|cJ|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s5|pc|s4|pc|sK|pg|| nt|cascade: yes so that will narrow the gap to 8 IMPs|pg|| pc|h8|pc|hK|pc|hA|pc|h3|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h7|pc|h5|pc|hJ|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|c30|st||md|4SAQJHD753CAKJ9653,SKT43HAKJ82DJ84C4,S9765H9643DQT6CQ2,S82HQT75DAK92CT87|sv|o|nt|cascade: EW have +420 in the other room|pg|| mb|p|nt|cascade: 4@h E =|pg|| mb|1C!|an|strong|nt|cascade: Ames 144 Rosenkranz 136|pg|| mb|1D!|an|majors|mb|p|nt|dinos1: 1@d - majors?|pg|| mb|1H|mb|3C|mb|p|nt|dinos1: only 1@h?|pg|| mb|3D|mb|p|nt|cascade: 3@d is strange news|pg|| nt|dinos1: stopper for 3n I think|pg|| nt|cascade: ok but he is very short on values|pg|| mb|4D|nt|cascade: he must expect more for 3@c|pg|| mb|p|nt|dinos1: strong club bidder JUMPED in @c's|pg|| mb|5C|mb|p|mb|p|nt|dinos1: no - 5@c by N|pg|| nt|cascade: I think Ames has bid 5@c|pg|| mb|p|pc|hK|nt|cascade: -100 will still gain Ames 8 IMPs|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h7|pc|c3|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c4|pc|cQ|pc|c7|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s8|pc|sQ|pc|sK|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h4|pc|h5|pc|c6|pg|| pc|cA|pc|h2|pc|c2|pc|c8|pg|| pc|cK|pc|h8|pc|h6|pc|cT|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|hJ|pc|h9|pc|s2|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s3|pc|s6|pc|d2|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d4|pc|dT|pc|dK|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|c9|pc|s4|pc|s7|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|sT|pc|s9|pc|hT|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d8|pc|dQ|mc|9|pg|| qx|c31|st||md|1SQJT86HKQ5DJ2CQT4,SA5H96DAK9865CA75,S7432H73D7CK98632,SK9HAJT842DQT43CJ|sv|n|nt|cascade: East made a false claim on 31 in the other room - "trumping my losers"|pg|| nt|cascade: trouble was he was in 3NT|pg|| mb|p|mb|1N|nt|cascade: 3nt E -3|pg|| mb|p|nt|cascade: so a very poor result for Ames|pg|| mb|2D!|mb|p|mb|3D|nt|cascade: Score is: Ames 152 - Rosenkranz 136 (unofficial)|pg|| mb|p|nt|cascade: So 11 IMPs for Rosenkranz here if they get to 3NT and more if they find 6@d|pg|| nt|dinos1: in 3N having cold 6@d?|pg|| mb|4D|nt|cascade: yes 14 IMPs for 6@d|pg|| mb|p|nt|cascade: and they appear to be on their way|pg|| mb|4S|mb|p|nt|dinos1: seems so|pg|| mb|4N|mb|p|mb|5C|mb|p|nt|poohbear: if they bid 6d they were going to win 11 anyway to bring the match within 5 . now it would be within 2|pg|| mb|6D|nt|dinos1: 5@c - 1 or 4|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|cascade: so Ames 152 Rosenkranz 150 |pg|| pc|sJ|nt|cascade: assuming no more accidents|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s4|pc|s9|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d7|pc|d3|pc|d2|pg|| pc|dK|pc|c2|pc|d4|pc|dJ|pg|| pc|h9|pc|h7|pc|h2|pc|hQ|pg|| pc|sT|pc|s5|pc|s2|pc|sK|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h5|pc|h6|pc|h3|pg|| mc|12|pg|| qx|c32|st||md|2SHAJ752DKQJT9CA97,SJ972HKT86D73CT64,SKQT63H4D862CQJ83,SA854HQ93DA54CK52|sv|e|mb|p|nt|cascade: 2@d +2 was the result on 32 I am told|pg|| mb|p|nt|vugraph7: yes|pg|| mb|1C|nt|cascade: before this gets exciting we need to thank those responsible for getting this vugraph up|pg|| mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1S|nt|poohbear: so Koch Ames need to go plus to win|pg|| mb|p|nt|cascade: So thanks to ACBL and in particular the Cheif director Rick Beye|pg|| mb|2D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|cascade: thx also of course to Fred Gitelman and the BBO team|pg|| nt|poohbear: looks like they will|pg|| nt|jbgood: misclick|pg|| pc|d3|nt|jbgood: no?|pg|| nt|cascade: and to our commentators and operator |pg|| pc|d2|pc|dA|pc|d9|pg|| pc|d4|pc|dQ|pc|d7|pc|d6|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h6|pc|h4|nt|poohbear: trump lead is almost always mandatory in these non preferenced auctions|pg|| pc|h3|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h8|pc|d8|pc|h9|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c2|pc|c7|nt|cascade: certainly when you have those hearts|pg|| pc|c4|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Our operators were Jeanne Molnar and Diane Beyer. They did very well. Thanks a lot to both of you|pg|| pc|sK|pc|sA|pc|dT|pc|s7|pg|| pc|dK|pc|s2|pc|s3|pc|d5|pg|| pc|h5|pc|hT|nt|dinos1: now @h endplay|pg|| pc|s6|pc|hQ|pg|| nt|mikeh: chamber will wish he'd unblocked|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Still uncertain as to when play will resume tomorrow|pg|| nt|poohbear: didnt matter|pg|| nt|mikeh: no, only 1 imp:)|pg|| nt|Walddk2: 10:00 am New York, 16:00 Paris a possibility but not confirmed|pg|| nt|poohbear: not even|pg|| nt|mikeh: right|pg|| pc|c5|nt|Walddk2: I promise to keep you posted as soon as I know tomorrow (public announcements)|pg|| pc|c9|pc|cT|pc|cJ|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s4|pc|h7|pc|s9|pg|| nt|cascade: so no change 152-150 to Ames|pg|| nt|poohbear: assuming our accounting is correct|pg|| nt|cascade: claim looks to be only +1|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Thx all for coming tonight. Hope to see you tomorrow|pg|| nt|cascade: that could be 152-151|pg|| mc|9|pg||